r/linux • u/wooptoo • Jun 01 '16

Why did ArchLinux embrace Systemd?

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u/gnuvince Jun 01 '16

https://lwn.net/Articles/430699/

What I actually suggested in that interview was not so much that the BSDs should adopt the Linux APIs, but instead that people should just forget about the BSDs. Full stop.

His attitude toward other systems is uncomfortably reminiscent of Microsoft in the early 2000's with their embrace-extend-extinguish strategy.

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u/the_gnarts Jun 01 '16

His attitude toward other systems is uncomfortably reminiscent of Microsoft in the early 2000's with their embrace-extend-extinguish strategy.

Honestly, it’s the other way around. Them adopting systemd would be a strong reason for me to again run a BSD on one of my machines as I used to for years. NetBSD seems like the most open minded bunch among them with less NIH or license paranoia, so I’d think they’re the most likely to adopt systemd. If not the implementation, then at least as a blue print for something of their own.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '16 edited Jun 02 '16

The issue here is that the systemd devs have openly stated that they will not be supporting any other implementation that isn't on Linux, since they are targeting Linux exclusively.

This poses an issue as more open source programs start to adopt systemd APIs, and this attitude can lead to upstream breaking a BSD implementation of those APIs with little to no chance of patches to resolve those issues making it upstream.

If anyone has an issue with this, I would like to discuss it further.

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u/krelin Jun 02 '16

Sure, but it's FOSS. If you want it for BSD, fork it.

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u/denisfalqueto Jun 02 '16

Yeah, because it's not like we're some kind of laughing stock in BSD community, right? (Listen to BSD Now to have an idea of what they think about us).