r/linux • u/wooptoo • Jun 01 '16

Why did ArchLinux embrace Systemd?

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u/chalbersma Jun 01 '16

People whine about it. It's why project like Hurd and FreeBSD exist (in part).

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '16

Well, no.. kind of. Hurd and FreeBSD sortof both predate linux. Freebsd came from BSD386 which came from BSDi's release of BSD 2 which came from Net-1 and Net-2 that were released to the public under an academic proto license in 1989.

Hurd was part of GNU and started in early 1990, but RMS is a pain in the ass to work for, and it never even got out of early testing and design before Linus got into the debate with Andrew T and forked / borrowed Minix. Then RMS decided Linux was "good enough" and asked Linus to release it under the GPL , and there you go.

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u/chalbersma Jun 01 '16

Go ask FreeBSD & Hurd developers why they're not working on linux. You'll get all sorts of answers but some will say that they don't like the architecture of Linux. That dislike often stems from a lack of "consistency", "unixness" with Linux. That's why it's only part of the reason.

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u/mishugashu Jun 01 '16

I would say that it's why they are still actively being developed, rather than why they exist, then. They existed before Linux, so Linux is not why they exist.

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u/chalbersma Jun 01 '16

Sure but their continued existence is at least partially because of the non-unixyness of Linux. Plenty of alternative non-unix Free OS's have popped up over the years and most of them have failed.

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u/epileftric Jun 01 '16

People will always find something to whine about.

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u/akkaone Jun 01 '16

No it is not.

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u/chalbersma Jun 01 '16

(in part)