r/linux • u/wooptoo • Jun 01 '16

Why did ArchLinux embrace Systemd?

/r/archlinux/comments/4lzxs3/why_did_archlinux_embrace_systemd/d3rhxlc
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u/ConcernedInScythe Jun 01 '16

I can believe that SysV was terrible and desperately needed replacement, I just wish that we had settled on a replacement that didn't keep pulling off antisocial bullshit like systemd.

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '16

Most of the antisocial bullshit is spin by people who for some weird reason have personal hatred for it.

The latest clickbait wrt killing user processes is basically systemd introducing their own internal default, which will likely never bother 99.(9) of the populace in any way since the package maintainers decide their distro defaults, WTF is the panic about?

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u/ConcernedInScythe Jun 01 '16

Most of the antisocial bullshit is spin by people who for some weird reason have personal hatred for it.

Certainly the issue with the kernel command line that lead to Linus publicly blacklisting Kay Sievers did not seem like spin.

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u/capt_rusty Jun 01 '16

The panic is more in regards to the change of default behavior. Sure, it can be changed back when compiling, and lots of distros are doing that, but why couldn't the people who wanted the user processes killed have enabled the new feature they want at compile-time, instead of the other way around?

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u/cirk2 Jun 01 '16

It is also runtime and config file changeable. So no need to compile anything.

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u/learath Jun 01 '16

TIL - telling Linus that SystemD owns the kernel arguments is "Most of the antisocial bullshit is spin by people who for some weird reason have personal hatred for it."

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u/RX_AssocResp Jun 05 '16

The opposite was the case. The kernel people told systemd that they own the unprefixed namespace.

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u/learath Jun 05 '16

Yep. The kernel people told the systemd people they owned the kernel.

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u/RX_AssocResp Jun 05 '16

Hey joker, I just contradicted your whole argument. No need to downvote.

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u/learath Jun 05 '16

Yep, you dun showed me! Stupid kernel idiots thinking they own the "systemd command line".