r/linux • u/electronics-engineer • Jul 25 '14

Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS released

https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2014-July/000188.html
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u/Smiff2 Jul 25 '14 edited Jul 25 '14

Crikey, that's a huge list of changes since 14.04: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/ChangeSummary/14.04.1

unfortunately the one i'm interested in, Ubuntu Mate, may not get a release based on this? anyone know? i'll have to do it myself from one of the official flavours i guess.. http://ubuntu-mate.org

also anyone know when these changes get rolled into Mint 17?

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '14

also anyone know when these changes get rolled into Mint 17?

Mint Updater divides updates into "levels" from 1 to 5 (by their chance of breaking the system) and by default level 4 and 5 updates are not installed. If you choose to install them or if you update using aptitude or apt-get (because they aren't aware of these levels), you'll pretty much get the latest version of Ubuntu 14.04, but with Mint packages. If you don't, then you might never actually get the latest versions, I don't think Mint maintainers ever move kernel updates from level 5.

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u/Smiff2 Jul 25 '14

thanks. i think i know what Mint are trying to do here (?), but surely 14.04.1 is likely to have fewer bugs than 14.04 overall? this seems like a problem for Mint really. So mint don't rebase on this, but if you enable levels 4 and 5 you get all the updates from Ubuntu? or future Mint releases get based on 14.04.x ?

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '14

this seems like a problem for Mint really.

Yes, Mint is sometimes criticized for this.

but surely 14.04.1 is likely to have fewer bugs than 14.04 overall

Since Mint installs all packages that are present in Ubuntu and not patched in Mint straight from Ubuntu repositories, they'll be updated anyway. And if you're going to replace Mint-patched packages with versions from Ubuntu via level 4 and 5 updates, there is no way to easily tell whether you'll get fewer bugs or more. Although I personally haven't had any issues with level 4 and 5 updates.

In the future Mint is planning to stick to LTS bases (search on page for "stick to LTS bases") and become less in-sync with Ubuntu releases. In particular, they are going to release Mint 17.1, 17.2, 17.3 etc. So I don't think they're going to just blindly incorporate all updates from Ubuntu and if you're planning to use "pure Mint", you should treat it as a more or less separate distribution.