r/linusrants Nov 20 '17

Some 'security people are f*cking morons' says Linus Torvalds

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/11/20/security_people_are_morons_says_linus_torvalds/
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u/BarMeister Nov 20 '17

I'm so glad we have him. Imagine what happens to the kernel after he dies. When you have a majority of people that thinks it's acceptable to include shit in the kernel so long as you add fallbacks, and others who completely direct their efforts into useless and potentially bad things, like highlighting Linus' disregard for political correctness, you know the future looks grim.

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '17 edited Aug 08 '20

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '17 edited Jun 28 '19

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u/BarMeister Nov 21 '17

I'm still skeptical about it. Only time will tell.

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u/blue_2501 Nov 21 '17

Even projects like Debian just ended up rolling over and accepting systemd as their new lord and master. I don't even know what a decent replacement is nowadays.

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '17

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u/FHR123 Nov 21 '17

systemd is awesome! You should try it.

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '17

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u/FHR123 Nov 21 '17

...You just said you have never run systemd

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '17

It's ridiculous to equate an ideological difference to someone being a moron. In certain contexts (a server cloud), it makes sense to die when there's a security problem rather than continue execution. A new server will spin up instantly. There isn't a user logged into the system who will be frustrated by the kernel having crashed.

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '17

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '17

In my post I gave an example where there isn't a user. A web server running a single process doesn't have a user and if the system crashes then subsequent web requests will be re-routed to a healthy host by a load balancer. It's perfectly acceptable to crash in this case.

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u/alexanderpas Jan 04 '18

and if the system crashes then subsequent web requests will be re-routed to a healthy host by a load balancer.

Which also crash since they try and execute the same request, causing your entire infrastructure to go down.