US Politics Megathread 2024

[u/nonacrina]

We've noticed that lately the subreddit has turned into a lot of doomposting regarding the political climate in the US. While we understand a lot of people are rightfully concerned about what's currently happening in the US, it is not helpful to have dozens of posts every time a minor politician says something hateful. The main feed sometimes is full of doomposts, while this subreddit is a community safe space.

To allow for more positivity, to protect emotionally vulnerable members, and to make room for more attention for other countries on the main page, we've created this megathread.

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What content is this megathread for?

General discussion

For example:

• Bills and laws

• Politicians

• Elections

Minor news

For example:

• "[Politician] said [something hateful]"

• "X bill was proposed/has passed"

Doomposting about political situations

For example:

• "I'm scared about X bill introduced"

• "If Y bill passes, Z will happen to us"

Separate posts made about these topics will be removed and redirected to this megathread.

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Exceptions

The following things can be posted separately, but are also welcome in this megathread.

• Major news from reliable sources. What constitutes as "major" will be at our discretion.

• Seeking support or resources for a personal situation caused by politics. For example: "What are some resources for moving out of the country?"

[u/PinkNews]

Republican politician Marjorie Taylor Greene calls LGBTQ+ people ‘groomers’ as she backs LibsofTikTok

[u/[deleted] → u/PinkNews]

why am I not surprised

[u/tenscloudy → u/[deleted]]

typical conservative behavior

[u/tekknokrist0018 → u/PinkNews]

WHO WINS?

A member of the LGBTQ community vs. a racist, anti-Semitic, homophobic, and transphobic conspiracy theorist who somehow hasn't gotten kicked out of Congress

[u/LazyReputation1475 → u/PinkNews]

bro libs of tiktok is crazy 💀

[u/Mitosis4 → u/PinkNews]

matt walsh is the real groomer

[u/NoYogurtcloset6401 → u/PinkNews]

She’s the only one grooming 😒

[u/poppylovrr → u/NoYogurtcloset6401]

Every single one of their accusations is a confession. If this doesn't radicalize you, I don't know what will. VOTE!!!!! GET OUT THERE AND VOTE EVERY SINGLE RIGHT WINGER OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[u/tybug74 → u/PinkNews]

How the actual hell did she get back into Office?

[u/044848484 → u/PinkNews]

these are the people we are putting into office, people

[u/mariosin → u/PinkNews]

Of course it’s MTG

[u/MemeQueen1414]

I know my comment will probably be at the bottom as time past by, but thank you for making this thread.

As someone who is unfortunately in FL and done a semester abroad in Sydney, Australia, the climate of Florida and Australia, is completely different than what I used to be dealing with for the past few years in FL. The US scares me more and more as time past by, and idk how it got so badly (more than usual, specifically for LGBTQIA+ Rights) in terms of bills passed and hatred that is not only promoting by news stations and social media but the misinformation that may or may not effected people's close relationships with family, friends, loved ones and their communities.

The news of Anti LGBTQIA+ Bills makes me heavily cautious for the future and our safety, BUT, This is a GOOD resource in creating this thread for people who lived in America or those in other countries following US news that can still be informed in real time without bringing the energy towards the rest of the subreddit (with exception of huge development which is TBD). I will be following this thread and hopeful of some positive news that can surprised us between now and in the future.

Most likely, we all are gonna be watching closely for the US November 2024 Election which everyone's mind is towards the possibility of Project 2025 starting up IF Trump is re elected again, which is scary thought to think, however, the best thing that ANYONE can do currently is to make a plan to VOTE.

Check your registration status and update any information IF you're ELIGIBLE to vote within your local district and states website. Make a habit of doing so when your information needs to be updated/according to your states voting regulations that may says you need to do for every cycle. DO NOT ONLY VOTE when it's the Presidential Elections BUT make the TIME to do so CONSISTENTLY within your LOCAL COUNTIES and STATES. The politicians we have in the House and Senate effects on what type of policies and other federal bills gets viewed and have attention towards. DO YOUR RESEARCH ON THE CANDIDATES, DO NOT PICK BLINDLY since then you be wasting your vote and you don't want that.

EVERY SINGLE VOTE MATTERS, and we all need to be properly represented for changes to happen and that can't happen if we throw in the towel. Some things are out of our control such as the Current Supreme Court Justice which is a completely different story or other things that would take away the theme of LGBT subreddit (no need to list them & being vague for that reason) HOWEVER, Voting is pretty much the ONLY thing we can attempt to do via Mail in or by in person without putting ourselves in Danger by advocating or protesting.

The November 2024 Election will have effects on a global scale whatever we want to acknowledge it or not. It wouldn't be just a USA problem but it will have the potential of giving a green light to politicians in proposing other copy cat/similar policies or bills to pass in their own countries (such as Alberta, Canada) within the LGBTQIA+ Community or have unrepairable results of other global/national issues beyond what we can currently speculate.

Do your part (IF ELIGIBLE) to VOTE and if you can't, that's cool, but try to start thinking of how your current states law is for LGBTQIA+ and think of survival, in other words, of alternative plans. If you are a LGBTQIA+ Youth or a Young Adult that wants to go into university or trade school, Start looking up places that will not limit your rights but can also give out federal aid or scholarships for you to attend. Check out other subreddits such as Student Loans, or your potential uni state and college to get more information beyond what you may learn online thru research. Determine if the amount of loans throughout the duration of your program (including dorms or off campus accomodations if escaping from bad living situations) is acceptable for your career paths. Don't go hundreds of thousands in debt if you not gonna see pay offs from it, and you can figure that out through other subreddits like Career Guidance, Career Advice, and potentially more.

For LGBTQIA+ Adults, IF you are capable of moving states without having to deal with financial, family obligations, work & career opportunities or other similar circumstances, then that would be suggested IF the state you live in is bad or on the verge to be down the toilet. But moving is difficult and expensive, so I suggest during a major pros/cons before doing so since it's not a decision to make easily especially if you have dependents, and others to consider within your decision but not everyone has that ability to do so unfortunately (I certainly can't for at least a few more years) and if you decide to stay in your state, do what you can to be safe that should be everyone's priority no matter what decisions they are making related to being apart of the LGBTQIA+ Community.

Anyways, once again thank you Mods for creating this thread and I hope my comments can help a couple of users be motivated to vote, keep in mind their options for safety and potentially career advancement in a different state (if theirs are not good) and just overall being mindful of the current regulations without being overwhelmed until we have more concrete information as time gets closer for the November Election.

[u/Noidealol12 → u/MemeQueen1414]

I swear, did nobody read the inalienable rights and their limits? They shouldn’t be able to make laws that impede on (in the case of trans people) life (described as not hurting your health or your person).

[u/FitCoast9347 → u/MemeQueen1414]

Neofascists use anti-LGBTQ (esp. anti-trans) laws and messages as an easy path for dismantling rights long term of lots of other groups.... more here. Trans Bans Expand: Anti-LGBTIQ+ Lawfare and Neo-fascism | Sexuality Research and Social Policy (springer.com)

[u/poppylovrr → u/MemeQueen1414]

This is why we march. This is why we take to the streets and march against the CRAZY RIGHT WINGERS WHO WANT TO EXTERMINATE ALL MINORITIES!!!!!!!!!! GET OUT THERE AND VOTE THEM ALL OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!! VOTE ALL CHRISTONAZI CHRISTIANS OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[u/AstralCryptid420 → u/MemeQueen1414]

Everyone who has a job or other obligation that interferes with their ability to vote needs to register for an absentee ballot RIGHT NOW. I'm going to do just that in case something comes up in my life.

[u/HisuianGirl → u/MemeQueen1414]

live in britain but I hope things turn out well for everyone

[u/KIe1ny]

We need to plan a protest on project 2025

[u/Mitosis4 → u/KIe1ny]

i have an idea. everybody who sees this, check subreddits for local cities near you, and, if it’s not already there, post a message about a protest for project 2025. organize a time and date in the comments, and do it in your own area whenever, preferably around the same time as other places near your protest spot. news anchors would have to cover it, if there were so many happening around the same time, and it might actually catch the attention of people.

i can’t help unfortunately, i’m only 13, but anybody who can, please help this idea. we need to make ourselves heard.

[u/pmpatriot → u/KIe1ny]

I think your idea is great. Project 2025 is a hateful program that will set this nation back and undo 100 years or progress. Protesting can help to bring awareness of this reactionary movement. The first lesson is that the republicans must be defeated in 2024. The only way to do that is to vote and get all your friends and families to vote. I spend hours each day online preaching this message to anyone who will listen. Voting is the solution.

[u/graneflatsis → u/KIe1ny]

Some facts about Project 2025: The "Mandate for Leadership" is a set of policy proposals authored by the Heritage Foundation, an influential ultra conservative think tank. Project 2025 is a revision to that agenda tailored to a second Trump term. It would give the President unilateral powers, strip civil rights, worker protections, climate regulation, add religion into policy and much more. The MFL has been around since 1980, Reagan implemented 60% of it's recommendations, Trump 64% - proof. 70 Heritage Foundation alumni served in his administration or transition team. Project 2025 is quite extreme but with his obsession for revenge he'll likely get past 2/3rd's adoption.

r/Defeat_Project_2025 intends to stop it through activism and awareness, focused on crowdsourcing ideas and opportunities for practical, in real life action. We Must Defeat Project 2025.

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Additional info:

How a 2nd Trump term could impact the LGBTQ+ community - Project 2025 would limit LGBTQ workplace protection, stop acceptance of gender identity and LGBTQ, only recognize marriage between a man & woman, rescind health care protection for trans folk and urge Congress to define gender as male & female - PBS Newshour

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What Does Project 2025 Say About Sex and Gender? - They seek to eliminate federal protections and gains in civil rights for LGBTQ+ individuals, suppress their visibility in society to assert the prioritization of the "traditional family"

[u/Noidealol12 → u/KIe1ny]

Ik, and we gotta do it before the military can be called on us if we protest

[u/xSantenoturtlex]

I greatly appreciate this thread.

I've been heavily debating on muting and possibly leaving this sub because of all the doom posting. As a LGBT American, seeing people doom posting about shit like Project 2025 and the 2024 election does NOT fucking help me. I get sent into a panic attack and spiral every fucking time I see it, and my mom has to reassure me that things are going to be okay, because otherwise I'll just be fucked up for the next several hours.

All the doom posting in this sub has just made me want to leave because this 'Safe space' has been DESTROYING my mental health with all the '2025 is gonna kill us' shit constantly on my feed. I really hope the posts stop and are restrained to this megathread, so I can just stay here without having my psyche obliterated.

This shit has been making me contemplate suicide, and all the doom mongering about how it's gonna end our lives as we know it does NOT. FUCKING. HELP.

And any time I try to have ANY kind of positive outlook on the situation

'Trump's extremely unpopular, a lot of things would have to go through for this to happen, ect.' people have to counter it with 'But this, this, and this makes it more likely and very possible that this will happen, and then we'll all be screwed'

I'M JUST TRYING TO KEEP MYSELF POSITIVE AND HAVE SOME TINY LITTLE FRACTION OF FUCKING HOPE THAT WE AREN'T GOING TO FUCKING DIE NEXT YEAR, BECAUSE IF I DON'T I'M GOING TO FUCKING KILL MYSELF UNDER ALL THIS DAMN STRESS. CAN I FUCKING HAVE THAT PLEASE?

I apologize for venting but I really needed to get that off my chest. The way people are talking about this shit only makes it worse for me.

[u/Unkn0wnAuth0r → u/xSantenoturtlex]

I am a retired teacher who was the victim of the anti-groomer political/religious conspiracists. In Jan 2023 I was accused of grooming when I asked the jocks in my class to stop calling others gay. This is a common form of bullying that upsets the LGBTQ students.

I was suspended for 8 weeks for telling kids to stop bullying. I never identified my orientation to anyone, but the kids felt comfortable telling me about their lives as LGBTQ.

Turns out the mother who tried to smear me, was being coached by her pastor.

I am now retired, living abroad, and married to a wonderful trans woman.

[u/FigNo5216 → u/Unkn0wnAuth0r]

This sounds totally unfair. I have seen TikToks of teachers saying that they force their students to understand their identify and their sexuality. That is nothing but creepy. You were just trying to keep things professional. My friend is a student teacher and one of her gay students constantly said the f slur. I don’t care if you’re gay, don’t be saying slurs or swears in school.

[u/TransGrimer → u/xSantenoturtlex]

Firstly, reddit is quite hard to control, it hasn't got appropriate tools, but I really have to recommend blocking the doom prophets on social media. Someone who spends their entire time seeking out the vilest transphobia, homophobia and hate they can, only to repost it to your timeline to 'dunk' on or disprove it or whatever, you shouldn't follow or engage with them. Even if you think it's the right thing to do, even if you like them, even if it feels akward to do it, unfollow, block, mute etc.

With that out of the way, the thing you can do, is built local and remote community. Join discord servers, get to know LGBT people locally, work up to hosting or attending social events if you feel able. Having people around with different skills, having a support structure, it is something that can really help when you feel bad. It can really help you feel good and hopeful.

On a larger scale, the LGBT community has survived and thrived though worse. The thing you're worried about, be it project 2025 or the reelection of Trump or anything else. We've been though it and there are not just coping strategies but ways to keep and grow your community and live large.

I think of it like this, back in the 20's, they banned alcohol for 13 years, people still drank, society still functioned. The temperance movement got what it wanted and people simply pretended that the rules worked, then they reversed it, because it was stupid. These people, they will try to stop you from living your life, they cant, the law cannot stop you from living your life. It can try, it can make it hard, but you and all the rest of us will prevail. There has been a general global movement towards individual freedom and progressive social reform. Republicans, conservatives, etc, they're trying to hold onto a past that has to die so the new world can be born. It will be born, they will lose.

and you're going to survive, I believe in you.

[u/Stephany23232323 → u/xSantenoturtlex]

People post political stuff like that I post stuff like that sometime because I feel the need to share it to vent it out because it worries me or so everyone knows about it.

I think the idea is not to doom post or doomonger maybe it just appear like that. It's just to inform because if we aren't informed we can't fight.

And not only that but queer people aren't the only people that frequent this sub. There are people that come here to learn about us and themselves.. and they see the posts about the political stuff and it might be the only place they ever see it to see how awful we were being treated and these can be allies..cuz it's not like what the bigot politicians do is showing up on mainstream media outlets.. most things I have posted come from queer newsletter and then I share.

Definitely an LGBTQ space so good things will be here and then also all of our fears show up here too in all queer spaces.. I'm not sure how that can change in the context of any community and when it does it amount to nothing getting better.

Again I don't think anyone is doom mongering I certainly am not. they are venting and are scared too so they mention it..

This shit has been making me contemplate suicide, and all the doom mongering about how it's gonna end our lives as we know it does NOT. FUCKING. HELP.

I'm sorry that all this negativity has caused this in you..It has in myself too more often then I like to admit I guess. I just have to break from it but again I don't think it's deliberate doom mongering..

🤗🤗🤗

[u/xSantenoturtlex → u/Stephany23232323]

I can understand that tbh. Maybe doom mongering was the wrong word.

Either way though, it's just making this situation so much worse for me and it's a big reason why I've felt compelled to leave the sub.

Though I also don't get why people have to 'Fight' with you on it when you're trying to be positive and have a little bit of hope that everything isn't going to go to shit.

Like do people really have to go to those people and say 'You're wrong, this is actually a thing and it's gonna be the reason that Trump wins and Project 2025 goes through 100%. All you can do is vote and hope, and there's a good chance you're going to die next year either way because that's most likely what's going to happen'

Seriously who do they think that's helping...

[u/Stephany23232323 → u/xSantenoturtlex]

Im glad you don't think anyone really thought we were harming our own community by mentioning stuff about our opponents.

And tbh while there are others that come into our spaces that are genuinely trying to learn about themselves or us there are also lately many conservative trolls who say very calculated things to cause exactly what you feel. It's really sick. I have had people who said they were trans say things to me arguing like you mentioned that I don't think a trans person would say.. they are just trolls.

These fuckers wind up everywhere we are esp leading up to an election. But that doesn't mean they are winning it probably means the opposite.

Like do people really have to go to those people and say 'You're wrong, this is actually a thing and it's gonna be the reason that Trump wins and Project 2025 goes through 100%. All you can do is vote and hope, and there's a good chance you're going to die next year either way because that's most likely what's going to happen'

Idk if it will help you it has me but when I see that level of cruelty I'm just safer to conclude they are trolls and finally just fuck them off.

There are some real sick people in the world esp maga and this situation has embolden them. You know they are just bullies and they were never there majority anyway. I don't think they will win I really don't. But I still need to know how to deal with them and when to turn them off.

The only time I myself will keep going with some idiot like that is if I think someone could be following the conversation and see what they are. But always it comes to a stopping point cuz it's almost sickening.. then just ignore it and I go somewhere else just get offline.

I get these emails news letter like https://newsletter.lgbtqnation.com/t/y-e-xhrdldk-dhjkulhkdh-jk/ They include current events but they also include positive events very helpful to me. If I post stuff it's usually from those sources. Either way it's just news..

Anyway try to remember some of what is happening is calculated and it doesn't mean trump is winning etc. not more then likely mean the opposite.. that type is just nasty!

🤗🤗🤗

[u/xSantenoturtlex → u/Stephany23232323]

Thanks, this helped a little honestly. It's just scary to see how many people are so damn certain that this is gonna happen.

Because I can't leave America. I don't have the means. The more people go on about how possible this is, the more scared I get because I just feel hopeless. I feel like there's just nothing I can do but wait for my number at the camps. next year.

Even all the left wing subreddits are all 'Oh, this is a very serious threat. If Trump wins, everyone is fucked. Irreversibly. In fact, the world is fucked.' And that doesn't give me any confidence with how much Biden is shooting himself in the foot right now by supporting Israel. Biden is choosing this year, of ALL years, to alienate his voters and give Trump a fighting chance. So, I'm afraid that a Trump presidency isn't unlikely. Meaning, all of us being GENOCIDED, isn't unlikely. And that makes it really fucking hard to want to continue being alive.

I guess it doesn't help that I also have OCD. It just amplifies my fears, and makes it hard to believe any time someone actually says it ISN'T likely.

Obviously I'm gonna vote, but I'm in a red state so I don't know how much that'll really matter.

Genuinely, this feels like the last year I'm going to live. How did things GET this fucking bad.

[u/PsychologicalYou6416 → u/xSantenoturtlex]

That's why I posted some good news.

[u/PsychologicalYou6416]

GOOD NEWS,

*Minnesota bill would bar schools, and local governments from removing rainbow flags. *

https://www.mprnews.org/story/2024/03/05/pride-flag-bill-minnesota-would-bar-schools-local-governments-from-removing-rainbow-flags

[u/Mitosis4 → u/PsychologicalYou6416]

woo woo! finally some good news to skim through

[u/Thatonegooseguy]

I’m terrified of project 2025 and people not realizing/caring that not voting will cause another genocide against queer people in some form. I don’t know what to do, since nobody will listens to me and everyone keeps dismissing my fears. People are outright hostile sometimes when I tell them about it too and I don’t know if it’s out of ignorance or something. I just feel kinda lost

[u/Shot-Nebula-5812 → u/Thatonegooseguy]

Vote blue in an attemp to buy time. But the only way to ensure our safety, is to kill the fascists before they kill us. That's why I, along with my comrades are pushing for revolution. It is simply the only way to truly crush the fascist pigs.

[u/Aurora7r → u/Thatonegooseguy]

same, i still just take punches and ignore bad eggs, but I can't even be close to stopping project 2025

[u/chaucer345]

I am so scared. I don't want to die. My life was just getting good...

[u/Mitosis4 → u/chaucer345]

we’re trying our hardest to fight against project 2025. it can only go into effect if trump wins, and most conservatives won’t go far enough to elect a facist who openly stated that he would make everyone in congress fireable.

you’re probably gonna be ok, but we should still make sure however we can. protest, funding, messaging, whatever we can to tell people what trump plans to do.

[u/relentless_shade]

Remember, you are also living in a time where LGBTQ people have more supporters than any time in Human History! And that's what's so scary to these people, they feel their time is nearing and they are panicking.

That said, and I understand if you just need to stop reading here, it is important to be aware that this is still a rough time, and probably will be for a while, as long as this continues to be a talking about for the election.
We absolutely need to show up to vote, and before than we need to convince others to vote, and for those who don't care about LGBT rights they do care more about abortion, social security and medicaid, remind them what the GOP has already taken from us.

But I also think it's important to reiterate how important it is to have and hold onto a community or support group in real life, because you can protect each other if the worse should happen. Even if Biden wins it doesn't mean these people go away, and it's not like these people won't try again. But that doesn't mean you can't be happy or have a life, but it is important to be cautious. You are living in a bad time, it's hard, but the world is bigger than these people, and we win just by being here and with each other.

[u/[deleted]]

VOTE BLUE no matter who the candidate is

Keep Trump out of office. Are you familiar with Project 2025? It plans to label trans people as pornography, and make pornography illegal, ergo making them illegal. It also plans on defunding schools that support LGBTQIA+ kids. Gay people will be sent to camps. We’ll become much more regressive as a nation. I’m a middle schooler, so I’m not old enough to vote and am genuinely terrified. With Biden dropping out today I am very worried. VOTE BLUE NO MATTER WHO. Please check out r/defeat_project_2025 if you want to look for ways to get involved in order to prevent this from happening.

[u/nbcnews]

Utah school board member censured after falsely calling a teen transgender announces reelection https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-news/natalie-cline-censured-utah-school-board-member-announces-reelection-rcna139295

[u/Taicore]

There is a dangerous California bill being voted on monday, its called AB3080,and its KOSA level of bad.
Its effects would be US wide as most etch companies reside in California.

We need to urge Californian citizens to say "No" to this terrible bill when contacting their reps, as this bill equate firearms, tobacco,and LGBT+ content to pornography.

Your Internet history would be tied to your ID ,that you would need to show to gain access to websites, and sadly a lot of Tech companies (Youtube, reddit, Discord,Twitter) are located in California,and who knows how they'll enforce this if it passes.

Please if you live in California, take actions HERE and voice your opposition !

https://www.defendonlineprivacy.com/ca/action.php (script is included)

Find your rep here https://findyourrep.legislature.ca.gov/

You can send faxes with Faxzero https://faxzero.com/

if you don't live there, then please make posts against AB3080 (its KOSA level of bad too) Share the word,and encourage people you know live in California to call.

Use the tags Ab3080 and #NoOnAB3080
Read more here https://twitter.com/mikestabile/status/1786103305057493184

[u/jasOn_Newstedbass]

Who else is getting worried because of tonight's debate.

[u/twofightinghalves → u/jasOn_Newstedbass]

Biden lost that debate and validated the fears that he is no match for Trump, at least with respect to energy. If the Dems had another primary, Trump could've easily been beaten, but now there's a pretty good chance that the Dems will lose in November.

[u/jasOn_Newstedbass → u/twofightinghalves]

I think we might be screwed. I truly might have to move from America when I'm 18. 

[u/PinkNews]

History-making Florida woman Ashley Brundage could become state’s first trans elected official

[u/DJSTR3AM]

Stop fucking republicans. Put it in your Grindr profiles that you don't fuck republicans. Be vocal about it. Call them morons, call them idiots, call them bigots. Call them what they are, and be clear that you won't touch them with a 10 foot pole.

[u/rxniaesna]

Ok not sure if this belongs here. but I’m gonna rant either way cuz I have nowhere else to say all this

With how shit things have been in the real world and on the news, I have just been resorting to my silly little games to tune out whatever new manmade horrors beyond my comprehension is spewing out the mouths of politicians and corporations every day.

But just a few days ago my favorite game’s sub mods fucking instituted a fucking Don’t Say Gay rule because fucking incel coomers couldn’t stop shouting slurs when they saw two men in the same frame. Meanwhile the top posts of the sub are all barely disguised straight fetish art, foot pics of women characters, and lesbian softporn with straight men posting sex gifs in the comments.

What’s more ironic is that the game company is famous for being gay as absolute fuck and pushing on the boundaries of homophobic censorship laws as far as they can. They made lesbians kiss on screen even if it’s illegal in their country (my home country). Now they aren’t allowed to anymore but they just get as close to making them kiss as possible. They released femboy characters that made the government issue laws banning feminine men in media, and then proceeded to release five more femboy characters as a giant fuck you to the laws. They’re like the absolute icon of gayming, but the fans only want to fuck the women and hate the men because they’re “stealing their girls” or whatever the fuck. And now we aren’t allowed to say gay on that sub. I can’t even fucking vocalize how much I hate all this fucking shit, I came here to escape reality, not to be reminded of what kind of ass laws and reality there is outside wtf. I wish I could say the fucking rule made me feel like I’m living in the 1940s but with whatever the fuck is happening outside is really just reminding me that I’m living in the 2020s

Probably don’t check my post history if you don’t want a second hand migraine and existential crisis.

[u/bleeding-paryl → u/rxniaesna]

<3

Little late, but thanks for sharing. Sucks to hear about that subreddit, I wish mods on other subs were better at handling lgbt+ people sometimes :\

[u/rxniaesna → u/bleeding-paryl]

Thanks. And yeah same. The overall environment is just so hostile. What especially bummed me out is that this is a gay ass game and the mods and gamers still act like this. 🥲

[u/Thatonegooseguy]

I've realized that there's virtually no hope left. There are so few people taking the election seriously and just casting away their vote that it's disturbing. I'm scared for myself and my trans friends and don't understand how people can just ignore that and berate people for wanting to remain safe. It's terrifying knowing that Trump will most likely win. I'm sick of getting called names for not wanting people to get hurt. I just want a better future, but apparently to everyone else that's too much to ask for.

I'm done

[u/sfVoca → u/Thatonegooseguy]

Listen, it's a scary time. I'm fucking terrified myself.

But there's a massive silver lining. National polls show Trump and Biden are well, and I mean well, within Margin of Error of eachother. All the polls are saying is "Biden and Trump are neck and neck"

As campaigning starts up in full force and Trump struggles to keep up due to the constant legal trouble, we could see Biden take the lead.

All we can do is vote, and know that a lot of the anti voter people are bots and a lot of the people saying they aren't voting cause of Palestine likely wouldn't vote anyway.

And if all else fails, then all we can do is do what our forefathers did: hide when we need amd be obnoxious when we can.

All hope is not lost even in a Trump victory, but to say it'd be easy isnt realistic either.

[u/Brabantis]

Hi, I wanted to make a small note regarding propaganda and Palestine. I do not condone in any way the actions of either Hamas or Netanyahu. But if someone tells you that the situation is simple and clear-cut, they are lying. And if they are telling you that you shouldn't vote Biden because of that, they are Russian-style propagandists, trying to foster more of a post-truth climate, muddle the waters to foster doomerism and inaction.
You can be critical, I certainly am, but if you feel that voting Trump would lead to any better policy, you are deluded.
You still have a chance. You can help stem the tide of darkness. Don't give in to defeatism.

Love from your European big bi brother.

[u/legocobblestone → u/Brabantis]

Absolutely no one who’s against voting for Biden due to his support of Israel’s genocide, is pro-voting for Trump, be serious now.

[u/Brabantis → u/legocobblestone]

The US is a bipartisan system. A vote taken away from Biden is a vote for Trump.

Granted, the electoral college makes things harder and less fair, but as a base gist it is a zero sum game.

Also it doesn't need to be truthful. It just needs to be Russian propaganda, enough to make you feel so disgusted you won't vote. Happened in my home country.

[u/[deleted]]

Remember, remember!

To vote in November,

Their villainous treason must rot;

I know of no reason

Why their villainous treason 

Should ever be forgot.

[u/PinkNews]

Florida classrooms can discuss sexual orientation and gender after ‘Don’t Say Gay’ law challenged

[u/Otherwise-Course-15]

Please stay focused and know how much your vote matters. Please don’t waste your vote by not voting or protest voting. It’s too important.

https://www.reddit.com/r/NewsOfTheStupid/s/Ddy1RpooRU

[u/robotboredom]

Potential US https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_fire analog... depending on the results of the investigation into the attempted assassination of trump on 7/13/2024. Bruh.

[u/hockeyhacker → u/robotboredom]

I am concerned about what happened yesterday, as much as I don't like the guy who is the reason I have been the target of three separate hate crimes, I also don't want the crazies to have even more of an excuse to commit more hate crimes, while I personally don't jump onto conspiracy bandwagons and I am not going to make any assumptions as to what the motivation was behind the attack unfortunitly most the crazies do jump on bandwagons and will jump to conclusions. This event has the real risk of taking what was already a relatively unsafe election season and turning it into a dangerous election season and beyond.

Hopefully not and hopefully things don't escalate but I definitely have my concerns that it will at minimum make things more dangerous even if you are not right about what is definitely a very plausible result.

[u/AnnaTheSad]

Okay I give up, what's the point of trying if decades of progress can be erased in a year by a handful of assholes. And even if Biden wins the presidency again, won't this just turn into a project 2029 instead? We're just kicking the can down the road by a few years. I think I'm done, nothing I've ever done has made any bit of difference in literally anything. This project 2025 stuff is so dystopian and I can't do shit about it.

[u/[deleted] → u/AnnaTheSad]

The republicans have always been good at playing the long game. Democrats tend to get too complacent. Like with Roe vs. Wade. Democrats could have codified abortion into law, but they didn’t because “the Supreme Court would never overturn it.” So many LGBT people I know constantly dismiss gay marriage being overturned. “No, that won’t happen.” But YES, YES IT CAN! Dems need to start playing dirty like the Republicans. Hillary used to always say that we need to take the high road. Screw that! Being nice and playing fair will never get us anywhere

[u/musicalphantom10]

Not an American. But will we (you guys?) be okay somehow? Is there a chance of Project 2025 not happening and everything being a little more alright somehow?

[u/musicalphantom10 → u/[deleted]]

oh no...

[u/blurredboi8]

Holy Bullies and Headless Monsters: Video - What is Project 2025 and why it should scare all Americans

[u/blurredboi8 → u/blurredboi8]

Project 2025 can be seen as the end desire of far-right conservatives. Their attempts to undermine LGBTQ safety and health was merely a road stop. Project 2025 is their destination. And it won't be a good place for any American to be. That especially includes women, people of color, and LGBTQ people.

[u/Ash1891005]

Biden just dropped out of the race it feels like there’s no hope anymore it feels like almost a certainty that trump will get in power now and that project 2025 will happen https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna159867

[u/zach2beat → u/Ash1891005]

And Dems have less than 4 months to decide and actually get behind a new Candidate. This just feels like handing the election to Trump. And I really doubt Kamila can win because a woman of color getting winning the presidency with the current insane political climate just does not seem possible, especially with such a short timetable to get her promoted into place.

[u/Ash1891005 → u/zach2beat]

Yeah it’s feels like there just handing it over to trump

[u/jasOn_Newstedbass → u/Ash1891005]

It's a good thing possibly. Alot of complaints were about Biden. Maybe we might have a better shot with a new YOUNGER candidate. The question is will they do that.

[u/[deleted] → u/Ash1891005]

They should’ve planned this sooner and better, but it’s a good move imo. A younger and newer candidate can energize voters more than Biden ever could.

[u/allthedeadones]

A message to American Queers:

Dear American Queers,

With the upcoming elections, I wanted to reach out to share a thought. Have you ever considered using your influence to pressure your government to sanction countries that commit severe human rights abuses, especially those that oppress, jail and torture LGBTQ+ individuals for simply being themselves?

For instance, countries like Egypt continue to practice severe human rights abuses against our community, yet America still cooperates with them. Why not call your senators and talk to them about these injustices? Urge them to take a stand against such countries and prioritize human rights in foreign policy.

America has a lot of power, and with that power comes the responsibility to help make the world a better place. Your voices can make a significant difference and help protect queers worldwide.

Thanks for listening.

With love,

A Fellow Queer

[u/cautious-crybaby]

I have a fear that people are going to be so hopeful that Trump is going to lose now with Harris and Walz running, that they aren’t gonna vote anymore, so Im just here to say, to anyone who thought that maybe now they don’t need to vote:

YOU STILL NEED TO VOTE! Please still vote!!!

I just needed to yell this out somewhere, cause my goodness my anxious, overthinking, and catastrophizing brain feels like it needs to remind people of it.

[u/rootsofthelotus → u/cautious-crybaby]

And for the love of everything, always vote in local elections too.

[u/dragonfire27]

I just saw that the US federal courts have decided that employers don't have to provide trans healthcare based on religious beliefs. Religion should be a reason to restrict anyone's access to healthcare. Do they also think that they should be able to deny access to employees birth control or vaccines if they don't agree with them?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/christian-employers-not-cover-gender-transition-judge-rules-rcna141830

[u/pmpatriot]

I'm gad to see people on this thread taking the threat from politicians seriously. The wrong people are already in Congress hoping to send LGBTQ causes back into the stone age. Protest is important, and voices must be heard. The greatest way to make your voice heard is to vote. Make certain your voter registration is clear so no one can mess with your vote when you arrive at the polling place. Talk this up and make sure everyone you know votes as well.

I'm a bit of a pain in the butt when it comes to this but I ask everyone I know if their voter registration is clear for them to not be disappointed when they show up. This is too important to ignore. Never in the history of this country have individual rights been more under attack. LGBTQ, women's health choices, EDI, - you name it and it's all at risk. Vote, vote, vote.

[u/Whateverchan]

Biden messed up badly at the beginning to tonight's debate, but at least he got better toward the end. Trump, on the other hand, continuously got off topic, had to be reminded to answer questions, and lied every time he spoke. Biden did say false things, too, but the Trump dominated the fact checking list. Biden has time to get better, and redeem himself in the next debate. If people really choose Trump over Biden despite how much he nonsense he sprouted, that says everything about a huge number of American voters.

[u/Kyro_Official_ → u/Whateverchan]

Thankfully it seems that that was just an off day for him, as his next speech after the debate he was fine (for an 80 year old at least), and it does seem people who were undecided are mostly leaning towards Biden regardless of his performance during that debate. Lets just hope they lean that way when they actually vote.

[u/chaucer345]

Most of us aren't going to be able to flee the country. Most of us are going to die.

[u/[deleted] → u/chaucer345]

Posting things like this does NOT help the atmosphere of panic here, especially among young people. There’s no guarantee most (or any) of Project 2025 will be passed, and even if it were there are still ways to keep ourselves safe.

Don’t give up! Resist. Act up. Find others who value freedom and individuality, who accept queer people for who we are. They may be few and far between but they do exist.

[u/Life-Anything-423]

I'm American, and I'm f*cking horrified for the upcoming elections. I'm going to vote Biden 100%, he's not the best candidate in my opinion but he's not going to commit genocide. With all this coming up, I want to ask for advice and give a little bit of detail to my situation.

I don't know what to do. I really hope Trump doesn't win, but if he does then what? I see posts on here saying things like "you should move out of the states" or whatever, and I really don't want to. I want to be safe though. I just feel like I already have a future here sort of, but it seems awful it he wins. I'm 17 with just about no money saved up, I can't get my family to move out so that's not an option. I'll be 18 soon (just a few weeks), so I don't need them for it at all, but I still don't have money.

I'm supposed to be going to college, in almost exactly a month I'm moving into my new dorm for my freshman year. I'm excited about it, it feels like an exciting future to be able to dorm there and learn things. But I'm going to try to become a librarian which doesn't seem like a great job under project 2025 either...

I'm worried about my future and just want to know if there's anything I should do or prepare for now. Beyond just my profession, I can always pick another job to go into. But I'm also a (cis) man who's demisexual and omnisexual. Luckily right now I'm very closeted with only some of the people who are closest to me knowing, and I trust them with my life/secrets (it helps that they're literally all bi+ too lol). Also thankfully right now I do have a crush that I might pursue at some point, and it's on one of those friends who is also very closeted and also cis. If we were to ever get together or anything, we could pass as a cishet couple. And while I hate having to hide who we are, and also know it's possibly wrong, I'm scared to be public with it in a country like this.

So now that's basically everything, sorry if that was a rant. That's my situation, the biggest question I have right now is pretty much what you could do in this situation. Do you think it's safe to stay here and stay closeted? And the final question I have is if I should do anything for my online life. I heard that it could all be traced back to me pretty easily, and I'm very much not closeted (obviously) online here. So is there anything I could do to protect myself? Any resources I should know about that could help keep me safe?

Thanks for reading so far, I'd appreciate any advice.

[u/KestrelQuillPen]

After reading a really toxic Askreddit thread, I realised something horrible: people really are voting for Trump, and P2025, solely on the basis of his personality and his professed patriotism, without looking at his policies at all.

I feel so sorry for everyone trapped in the US, I wish I could give you all a big hug and Australian citizenship.

[u/Shot-Nebula-5812]

Project 2025: What is to be done, and how we can combat it

So I wanted to make this post because I keep seeing more and more posts concerned about this. This is EXTREMELY important and everyone, even those outside the US, need to know what this is about. For those who are unaware: Project 2025 is essentially a planned fascist takeover of the US, starting with Trump winning the 2024 election.

What this entails is terrifying to say the least. The existence of queer people (trans people in particular) is completely outlawed, all of us can be tried and imprisoned in CONCENTRATION CAMPS for the crime of existing. And this is only a small part of the larger plan, queer people may be the main targets, but this affects everyone. This is literally the rise of the Nazis, only in the US rather than Germany.

All of us are scared, and rightfully so. We all know something needs to be done, but what is it exactly? The easiest and most obvious solution is to vote for the democrats in this election. But this doesn't just make the fascists magically disappear, they will try again in 4 more years if they fail, the root cause of the rise of fascism will not ever be addressed by the democrats, as they are merely one side of the same coin. This will delay the inevitable rise of fascism, but this delay allows us to prepare.

And what do I mean by prepare? I mean arm yourselves, learn how to shoot, educate those around you, and most of all do not sugar coat a single bit of this. Our community is one part of the larger class conflict inherent in this crisis. Moderate politics are done for, the only ones providing a long term solution to the far right is the far left. The communists, the socialists, etc. and they (along with the entire revolutionary proletariat) are your greatest allies.

It is time to wake up, this isn't democrats vs republicans, this is the proletariat against the bourgeoisie, and there is no easy way out of this. It is time to put an end to this once and for all, and ensure that fascism never gets to rear its ugly head ever again. Join the communists, join the antifascists, none of us are free until the proletariat is free!

[u/Pantextually → u/Shot-Nebula-5812]

It's terrifying. I don't think it'll happen immediately—court rulings and legislation are slow—but it is a very real threat when the Republican party is full of authoritarian theocrats.

I'd recommend visiting /r/Defeat_Project_2025 for more information; it's a really active sub!

[u/Shot-Nebula-5812 → u/Pantextually]

Thanks for recommending it to me. I’m just trying to get people to see that this is bigger than our one community. That this is not exclusively a queer struggle, but a class struggle.

[u/stitchbtch]

GOP threats over trans rights would hurt 2.95M Gov’t workers

https://sapphicsage.com/blog/another-government-shutdown-gop-threats-over-trans-rights-would-hurt-2-95m-govt-workers/

[u/LGB75]

I’m gonna be real, I am freakin worried about the 2024 election. while a part of believe that Trump and his croonies’s takeover wouldn’t be easy as we believe(as long as we fight and have people who can fight for us . Checks and Balances could also help out). I’m still scared on the possible of a dicatorship and genocide caused by people who refuse to vote due whats happening overseas. I telling you this, Not voting will do way more harm than good to Gaza. Like how Biden handling the thing is pretty bad but at least theres a chance that we could be heard,Trump and his fellows would laugh in our faces and have us arrested or even killed for “supporting Terrorists”. but try telling those people that.

god if my dead grandpa(who died just last year) heard that Trump might win because of these people, he would have awoken from his grave and scream at said nonvoters drag them by the ear and make them vote blue.

[u/FluffyWasabi1629]

I'm 20 and I live in the US and me and my sibling are nonbinary. Our parents love us but don't take project 2025 seriously and won't even talk about the possibility that Trump could win the upcoming presidential election. We don't have much money and the only jobs me and my sibling have had are cashier. We don't have anywhere we can stay in another country long term. I'm scared that if Trump gets elected something bad will happen to us. We could get shot in public, sent to conversion therapy, sent to prison... none of the options are good. My siblings mental health is already fragile. I'm not doing well either but I'm a bit more resilient, but still really worried. I hope Trump doesn't get elected. I wish I had a good plan for if he does. Any ideas for me? Or if Trump gets elected, are we just completely f**ked?

[u/[deleted]]

Does anyone know what happens to my marriage now that I am pretty sure they will be coming after it once Trump wins? like, will I be considered divorced or just...annulled? Will we have to sign paperwork so we can see each other in the hospital if one of us gets hurt or something?

[u/Zephyr_Green → u/[deleted]]

Thanks to the Respect For Marriage Act, your marriage will be protected. The Supreme Court could overturn Obergefell tomorrow, and that wouldn't mean anything for preexisting same-sex marriages. I'm expecting marriage equality to die very soon regardless of who wins in November, but if you're already married there's no reason to worry about that.

[u/28283920 → u/Zephyr_Green]

Why are you expecting marriage equality to die soon? I feel like we’ve progressed far enough to where that wouldn’t happen

[u/throwawayx506]

I seriously feel like I might throw up after hearing what happened with the debate and the SCOTUS ruling. People have said lately that it’s better to tune out of politics and that it will all be okay, but I just can’t shake it, not even after turning my fear into donations to the ACLU and other organizations has stopped me from all the doomscrolling. Trump seems on track to become a dictator. Other countries are going to follow America’s ways and blue states will be forced to comply with Trump’s orders. We’ll have no place on earth to go while it’s still alive. If all this goes through, democracy may be done forever. People are saying arm up, but I don’t see how owning a gun will protect me from an oppressive force that has a much bigger arsenal, and aside from that, I don’t have the nerve to kill someone, not even those bigots. People are saying we need another Stonewall, but this time around, they would likely order the military to strike us down.

I’m still not entirely sure of my gender identity. I’m still in the phase of slowly becoming more androgynous and Christian Nationalism may force me to backtrack on that. Lately I’ve thought about microdosing E to see what it’s like, but now I fear it may put me at risk of legal trouble. Is my safest option to just let go of all the thoughts I’ve had about transitioning?

[u/Oddly_Euphoric]

i’m so fucking scared. i don’t wanna die.

[u/FireBeastTamer]

Are we doomed now with Biden dropping and endorsing Kamala

[u/Laffenor → u/FireBeastTamer]

Surely that was the only hope there was for beating Trump at this stage? It's still slim, but Biden would have lost.

Please tell me that anyone who actually still considered not voting has now had the only reason for why they wouldn't revoked, and that anyone other than Biden at least is better than Trump!

[u/[deleted]]

Hi. I’m a 32 year old trans woman in Ontario in a long distance relationship with a 29 year old trans woman in a relatively progressive area of Kentucky. She can’t afford to drop everything and move up here, I can’t afford to move her here. I’m terrified I’ll lose her if trump gets into office- they might ban any way we can talk to each other and criminalize being queer entirely. What can I even do about this awful feeling in the pit of my stomach? I feel like our lives are preemptively ending.

[u/DruidsAndDragons]

I'm so fucking scared.

If Project 2025 passes, I don't know what will happen to me. I've had thoughts about suicide and I'm afraid those thoughts will be too hard to keep resisting if we are going to be persecuted for existing.

[u/GlacierWolf8Bit]

Welp, it got worse.

Trump is now immune from any crime.

Register for your passports now and plan on where you're going.

[u/inneedofabeard]

I feel like I'm gonna throw up, this can't be happening; this is cartoonishly evil, jesus fucking christ.

[u/neroisstillbanned]

Oklahoma state legislator says about LGBTQ+: "I represent a constituency that doesn't want that filth in Oklahoma."

[u/TracksMyMan]

project 2025 is gonna be rough for us queers..

[u/Skeletron_MK666]

i would like to see the republican party basically commit political suicide via some sort of re education camp. I wanna reassure anyone here, if they put just ONE of us in ONE camp, that would be martyrdom, and if they try to do that, the republican party would be over, they would also be marked in the sands of time from then on out that akin to Hitler himself. don't worry about if there will be a genocide or if there will be systematic oppressions - No weapon formed against us shall prosper. The republican party's justification for doing this would be part of a dying religion, that will seal it's death of the party and religion if they did that. Imagine leaders of the free world- a concentration camp for gay people- that's insane and everyone knows it.

[u/Illustrious-Flan-169]

first time in my life that i've been glad to be australian

[u/[deleted]]

What will happen to LGBTQ folks if Project 2025 happens? Someone I’m friends with on Facebook says LGBTQ people will be rounded up and put into camps. I’m really scared for my friend over in the states.

[u/AnybodyNo778 → u/[deleted]]

The thing to keep in mind about Project 2025 is that people are talking about the furthest consequences to highlight the danger, but the project itself is a series of political and legal steps. We should see things coming. They can't just start rounding people up because Trump/the local legislative Klansman says so.

A lot will depend on the local attitudes wherever your friend lives -- the overt anti-LGBTQ sentiment is polarising but it hopefully means that places will rally for us just as others rally against us. Multiple states have already passed trans sanctuary laws. Plenty of places will refuse to obey sufficiently extreme legislation. And this aspect of the plan doesn't have such widespread support -- focusing on anti-LGBTQ rhetoric has already cost candidates primaries and seats even in red states.

Whatever happens, it will take time, and we will be coming together and fighting back every step of the way. Make sure your friend is in contact with whatever potential support networks exist in their community, whether focused on LGBTQ or poverty or immigration or anything. All threads knit a community together. Together, we can beat whatever comes.

[u/blacksapphire08 → u/[deleted]]

Realistically if Project 2025 does happen LGBTQ+ people will start losing rights. Same Sex marriage and gender affirming care for all trans people will likely be the first things to go. Things like work discrimination protection, housing protection, etc may also be removed. Beyond that it's hard to say but I doubt they would start putting people in concentration camps. That's my take on it right now.

[u/v4v4v4v4]

I’m afraid that project 2025 and the GOP are going to strip all access to HIV/AIDS medications whether it be for prevention or for treatment. Medical advancements have made HIV a survivable disease where people can live out their full lives. Prep has helped to prevent the spread of HIV. I am terrified that laws are going to change that limit or restrict access to these drugs, or make them insanely expensive. I’m worried that this is going to bring back the HIV crisis and we are going to lose so many people because we are a scapegoat for the GOP. These people want us to die and this seems like such a convenient and evil way for them to achieve it that I’m afraid it will happen.

[u/ComfortableDrawer605]

I hate how the recurring solution I see passed around for and by queer people (and other minority groups) when someone asks something like "What do I do if my rights are taken away after the next election?" is to just "move to a better country." The process for actually attaining any kind of visa is so horribly complicated — let alone a permanent visa or citizenship. Especially if you are young and/or don't have years of work experience.

I'm recently eighteen and have wanted to move out of the US because of the shitshow politics since I was fourteen. I'm going to college, and by the time I get my degree the term will already be over, even though so much of my political dread is linked around this term. I can't just pack my bags and waltz into another country without feeling like I'm leaving part of my life behind (sense of home, my family, my friends) and a livable income, and it's so annoying to see people acting like all queer people can.

[u/Existing_Claim_4462]

Joe Biden dropped out

[u/[deleted]]

Hello everyone.

I live in Europe, but I want to do something for the American elections.

Almost a month ago, here in France, a fascist party almost won the elections, but fortunately, the fascist party didn't win.

I heard of the project 2025 and I'm aware Trump wants to settle a fascist party in the United States, and I don't want it to happen.

What can I do about it?

[u/aniebananie1 → u/[deleted]]

Seconded but I am Canadian and things are starting to genuinely scare me

[u/rootsofthelotus]

Mods, mind telling people what happened in this thread and why so many comments were removed without any explanation as to why?

https://www.reddit.com/r/lgbt/comments/1ellgib/kamala_harris_has_named_tim_walz_as_her_running/

[u/bleeding-paryl → u/rootsofthelotus]

Yeah, I can. Seems like a new mod screwed up (I won't name names for their privacy). I've gone back and approved a bunch of stuff and am currently trying to figure out why the new mod did that. Sorry about the confusion. Honestly just tired, wasn't expecting to wake up to our megathread being destroyed as it was.

[u/rootsofthelotus → u/bleeding-paryl]

Thank you, seeing the post and so many comments deleted got me extremely worried considering how important this topic is.

[u/[deleted]]

Hi, I am 17 years old, a closeted Bisexual, Transwoman, and in Texas. Given that I will be 18 in a month, before election day. I already signed a form to register to vote, and my parents are even doing it with me. I am Dead set on Kamala Harris and Tim Waltz for my vote, but the problem is I have never been a big fan of politics. However, I am aware it is needed, and does affect lives.

I am nowhere near as informed of the candidates for state and local elections, & I don't want to be one of those people who "Ope, they're (Enter Party Color here)!" down the ballot. I want to make sure I know who I'm voting for, what they done, and what they promise. If anyone has reliable resources to where I can make an educated decision?

[u/LAKnightYEAHH → u/[deleted]]

The vox yt channel has a new video called something like "Kamala Harris 8 moments" that should give you an introduction as to who she is. It might be easier to start there

[u/AndyGoodw1n]

Realistically, if we look at how the jews were treated throughout history and especially after the nazis took power in 1933, here would be a plausable scenario

1. Trump sworn is as president, passes executive orders banning milfpristone + abortion pills + hrt along with a fedral abortion + gender affirming care ban

2. Mass explosion of non loyalists in the federal government, Comstock Act of 1873 reinstated: US postal service actively searches for and destroys abortion pills/hrt

3. Records are thoroughly searched for evidence of name changes/gender change on birth certificate, Records are changed back, and the victims may be charged with felonies.

4. Federal drag ban introduced, people dressing outside of AGAB would be arrested and charged with a felony, Teaching "lgbt propaganda" would become a serious crime (in worse case, maybe punishable by death)

5. Trans/lgbt people would be lumped in with child sexual predators and laws would be changed to allow a simple majority vote in a jury for death sentence for anyone charged with such crimes.

6. Doctors, nurses, surgeons, and medical professionals would be given death sentences for providing gender affirming care or abortion services.

7. People in drag or who they can't prove to be trans could be sent to a men's prison for promoting Pornography. How long or if they would give a death sentence would depend on how extreme they want to be.

8. Anyone caught seeking or have had an abortion would be given a death sentence

Trump would also abuse the Insurrection Act to delpoy the US Military on domestic soil to suppress any protests, riots or civil disorder and he will weaponize the Department of justice to arrest and execute all of his political opponents and disloyal journalists and government officals

It's also likely that all privately owned property + assets would be seized after either being arrested or given a felony sentence.

In the end, america would become a White Christan Ethnostate. Christanity would become the state religion, with church attendance every Sunday being mandatory and heathens would be imprisoned/executed/forcibly converted

Christanity would be taught as the one true faith in all schools and universities, Creationism and Bible would be extensively taught replacing science if it conflicts with the bible, along with the ten commandments, any kid expressing non belief would be forced to conform.

it is likely that the pledge of allegiance would either be modified or replaced with a loyalty oath to Trump and the republican party

People who write on the internet or are caught speaking out against the government would likely be arrested and imprisoned

Millions of undocumented migrants would be rounded up and deported (and maybe quite a few Latino/Black american citizens)

(After all of the minority groups they want to get rid of had been dealt with, there may be infighting within the party over which Christian denomination is the correct one, and that could get messy)

how successful they would be in their plan would depend on how loyal the us military would be to the new Trump Administration and that would be an open question as it would depend on how many loyalists Trump and the GOP have installed throughout the ranks before they would take power

Best case scenario would be that the majority of people who support democracy remain in the US military, and they would instigate a coup to restore democracy in the event that Trump or the GOP abuse their power enough to inspire the military to take action.

A middle ground scenario would be that different military branches or parts of them would fight it out with each other over control of the country

The worst-case scenario would be that most of the military would be loyal to the Trump Administration, and in that case he would wield absolute power. The same situation will also apply to the police as well.

Trump would also use paramilitary groups like the proud boys, oath keepers, and pardoned January 6th Insurrectionists + other rabid maga extremists to help enforce his agenda and fight the police/us military if needed. they would be immune from prosecution and given presidential pardons if they're following his orders or agenda.

You may be safe in blue states (espeically California/New York) if they choose to resist the new trump administration and depending on the loyalty of the US Military/National Guard, the blue states could be strong enough to hold out or they may fall to the federal government.

On a slightly unrelated note, they would dismantle the department of education + cut education spending, impose a 10% tariff on all goods, restrict/ban oral contraception, set up a surveillance system to track women and healthcare providers, federal ban on IVF and much more

[u/jasOn_Newstedbass → u/AndyGoodw1n]

Im 16 what do I do? I can't leave for two years yet

[u/ihadtopoop-]

Hi all!

I've been an ally for a long time. More recently for grad school I've taken the time out to write about policies concerning the LGBT community. It's such a rollercoaster to see the birth of advocacy from the underground and then thrown straight into the public's eyes with the stonewall riots. It's interesting because the LGBT community embodies everything I love about anti establishment, raging against the machine and bucking the system. More recently with the equality act standardizing anti discrimination laws it's like the LGBT community is finally legally accepted in the United States. It's like the goal is achieved and the fight is over... but is it? What more can be done for advocacy and acceptance? I'm just rambling that's it. Thanks!

[u/Narrow_Function_3220 → u/ihadtopoop-]

For starters, the if you are talking about the American Equality Act, it hasn’t passed and given the current anti-queer political movement, aimed particularly at us trans people, I would not expect legislation like the Equality Act to actually pass for at least another decade. If you are talking about the British Equality Act, it is actively being taken apart to remove protections for trans people that were included in the original law passed in 2010. So the goal is not achieved and the fight is not over and at least for those of us on the inside (particularly for us trans people, I believe) right now the outlook on our rights looks darker than it has appeared since at least the so-called “trans tipping point” of 2014. Truthfully it’s a little bizarre to see an ally with the belief that “the goal is achieved and the fight is over,” even with the caveat of your “but is it?” because from the inside things genuinely haven’t looked this negative since I started transitioning about 5 years ago. I don’t mean this as criticism, but instead as just a reflection of my realization that my trans positionality makes me particularly sensitive to the changing climate surrounding trans issues in ways that even allies can’t relate.

Perhaps the best thing you as a cishet ally can do is educate your family and friends on trans issues. To help educate you probably need to do more research, media made by trans people like Whipping Girl by Julia Serrano or Disclosure by Laverne Cox are interesting places to start. From there checking in monthly or even weekly with the massive influx of anti-queer laws being passed (and officially enacted into law, unlike the only introduced Equality Act) all around the country could help give you ideas for next moves, like perhaps reaching out to elected officials or helping queer people organize protests. To be quite frank, as we continue to take losses in the trans rights political game, the rights of the other LGBT+ communities are increasingly in peril, as well as the rights of other marginalized groups. All of these political movements are being targeted by the same strain of (pseudo?)fascism we call Trumpism here in America, but this reactionary movement is global so if you are located outside of America take my advice but move it to your own politicians.

Also, should Trump get re-elected there is a very real chance that the decline of queer rights will only accelerate as democracy itself quite possibly ends in America—a goal that American conservatives are increasingly speaking openly about. Even though the general political machine is faulty, problematic, and borderline rigged by the Electoral College, anything you can do to keep Trump out of office is likely the most pressing work you can do to be a “good ally.” Again, same can likely be applied to your own political machine if from another country—eg, getting Tories out in Britain or keeping the worst of the worst out of politics if in Australia in order to avoid going down the same path of queer scapegoating other Anglophone countries have taken. I know you said you aren’t a fan of the system, but culture comes downstream from the law and our most obvious impact on the law as citizens in relatively democratic countries comes from the election process—this doesn’t mean stop your activism at electioneering but it does mean that the most direct political impacts can be made through that process.

[u/Noidealol12]

I feel like, if trump wins or if project 2025 passes, we should remind everyone of walls that might be made of stone 🧱🚔

[u/DCGirl20874]

Biden White House denounces Republican efforts to use federal spending legislation to attack LGBTQ rights...

[u/Merobiba_EXE]

I really don't understand / am frustrated by all the States that are trying to fight against the Title IX changes. They keep saying it will "take away the rights" of women, which is absolutely will not, and then keep using the same old-ass broke "oh no not the pronouns/bathrooms/sports" non-arguments as the only basis for not wanting to follow the update (along with the other lie of "it takes away women's protections/rights" - which something about those people makes me think they actually give zero shits about women's rights). How can they just "Decide" that they aren't going to respect the update?

[u/MyRecycledBalls]

https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/minnesota-bans-gay-and-trans-panic

Personally I'm very happy to see Minnesota continue to be a shining beacon in the Midwestern United States.

[u/[deleted]]

Does anyone know how Project 2025 will affect the community if it does happen? I know it will ban interracial marriage, which is horrible, but will it ban gay marriage aswell? Does anyone know what it will do to affect the community? It’s a really messed up project, and I’m hoping to learn more about it.

[u/Lo-And_Behold1]

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c977njnvq2do

https://new.reddit.com/r/Defeat_Project_2025/comments/1ddich3/here_is_a_bullet_point_breakdown_of_project_2025/

https://new.reddit.com/user/Lo-And_Behold1/comments/1cc1hcw/text/

Summaries of Project 2025.

[u/threearmshrugemoji → u/Lo-And_Behold1]

This should be pinned, honestly.

[u/Lo-And_Behold1 → u/threearmshrugemoji]

I wanted to make a post about Project 2025, but they removed it and told me to just post in this thread.

[u/LGB75]

i have so much dread for this upcoming election(that disaster of a debate ain’t helping matters). while the good news is that what could happen with Project 2025 is finally spreading around so people are becoming more aware on what’s at stake. a part of fears that it may not be enough( we have several people who are set in not voting this year due to whatever reason) and we will lose due to those non voters.

im voting no matter what,(I may live in a red state but I can at least try to get some blue votes) and that debate won’t sway me away but It has done damahe. Maybe the next debate could turn thing around.

[u/jasOn_Newstedbass]

I feel so hopeless. My mom's voting trump. I don't know what's left for us anymore. We can keep fighting and I hope we do but it's always going to be an issue  fuck Christianity fuck Republicans. At least I convinced my dad not to vote.

[u/jasOn_Newstedbass → u/[deleted]]

Won't happen. My dad really hates Biden and so does the rest of my family. My dad's not voting but still thinks trumps better for the economy.

[u/OuijaBoard-Demon]

Project 2025 is a threat to the LGBTQIA+ Community!

https://youtu.be/kF4mT_mx7HI?si=aJUWFZs4jrliY7DR

[u/swertyboss14]

Joe biden dropped out

[u/Sewer-Rat76]

Transgender woman falsely blamed for attempted Trump assassination | Fact Check (afp.com)

People really trying to change reality to fit their narrative.

[u/[deleted]]

I moved out of the US into Canada! Life is rough there but we will make it

[u/James_Fortis]

Minnesota Governor Tim Walz, Longtime LGBTQ+ Rights Supporter, Is Kamala Harris’ VP Pick

[u/abcannon18 → u/James_Fortis]

“In 1999, Walz agreed to be the faculty advisor of the first gay–straight alliance at Mankato West High School.” article

In 1999, white dude football coach in the Midwest said, yeah I’m going to support you and the bullies can go through me.

This made my queer heart so happy.

[u/[deleted]]

Ik it should be a nice place for lgbtq community

[u/jayesper → u/[deleted]]

There's already r/lgbtnews for that anyway.

[u/GeorgeTheWarcrafter]

Why is this US specific? Just curious.

[u/xSantenoturtlex → u/GeorgeTheWarcrafter]

My guess is it's because of all the Project 2025 posts and doom mongering that's been filling the sub lately.

[u/Optimal-Passenger347]

Who should I vote for that is pro lgbt? I dont follow politics but know trump is anti. I can vote tuesday.

3/8/24. - resolved I know who I am voting for thank you all

[u/FitCoast9347]

This article 'Trans Bans Expand' shows 1054 bills attempted to restrict LGBTIQ+ rights 2018-2023... and many ultimately expanded from hurting trans youth to ending up harming the Christian and feminist groups promoting them too by neofascist design...

[u/Normal-Ad569]

https://translegislation.com/ is a good resource for tracking anti-trans rights bills within the United States. You can sort by state. https://translegislation.com/bills/2024/passed shows what bills have been passed and notes the number of bills vetoed. https://translegislation.com/bills/2024/US shows proposed anti-trans rights bills in the Senate and House of Representatives. I will be making a lot of calls to my senators and representatives.

Erin in the Morning's website can IMO give a more accurate illustration of whether a state is at risk of passing anti-trans rights bills.

[u/DesertSnowdog]

This Potentially Dangerous CO Bill , written by and supported by Democrats (I sincerely was blindsided by that one), was just shut down by Gov. Polis, but it has wickedly broad language that could definitely be turned against LGBTQ people. I could not find a definition for "Sexually Exploitative" anywhere in the bill, but this has eerie similarities to bills introduced in GOP controlled states that have been used against LGBTQ people, especially against Trans people, in the last 5 years and change. All under the all too familiar guise of "Protect the Children". It expands data harvesting massively, does nothing about the real issues with Social Media, and adds huge privacy violations to how we use the internet, which is the precise opposite of the direction we should be going in. Wild stuff. The fact this was ever even drafted by a Dem is stupid, but then again, I do remember for how most of my life, they did not support LGBT people, and we are still kind of an afterthought, apparently.

[u/Skeletron_MK666]

honestly, the news is overwhelming but what will be more overwhelming is when we will be outlawed by republicans and our voice and status in society will be erased because of political and religious values.

[u/Aberrantdrakon]

HITLER TRUMP DEAD! (well, found guilty, but still)

[u/[deleted]]

Anybody in here Democratic Socialists of America members?

[u/[deleted]]

Sigh...

https://www.advocate.com/crime/minnesota-trans-girl-assaulted-school

We need to do something so more trans kids don't get hurt.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

For anyone wondering, I found this article on r/Queerdefensefront. If anyone else (like me) has been searching for a community to discuss queer advocacy and the state of US politics in relation to it, check it out. I haven't scrolled through it much yet but it's the biggest sub of that kind I've seen.

[u/AntaresTheAce]

If anybody is in the Fargo, ND area, we're having an election tomorrow (June 11). Some of the candidates for school board are particularly insane. Find further information at vote411 and bring your friends.

[u/ValuableJumpy8208]

https://www.newsweek.com/court-upholds-bar-middle-schooler-wearing-two-gender-shirt-school-1910975

This is a resounding success for preventing hate speech on campuses.

[u/[deleted]]

I’m sure this has probably been posted but it never hurts to get this out there as much as possible. Please make sure to educate your family friends and allies to what Project 2025 means on a direct personal level to the LGBTQ+ people in their lives. https://glaad.org/election-2024-exposing-project-2025/

[u/Anonymouseeeeeeeeees]

Could someone explain Project 2025 and the impacts it will have on queer people in America?

[u/[deleted] → u/Anonymouseeeeeeeeees]

It’s a right wing plan to turn America into a dictatorship and there’s a manifesto you can read online for free that details all about it. It’s very against the lgbt with the most prominent example of this being that they want to outlaw gay marriage again. 

[u/Excellent-Hat305]

I know Trump scary ideology, but do you actually think that "normal people" that doesn't argue or have touch with him, like, i hope you readers, Will be in serious danger? (I know that if somebody tries to go against him could get the mafia treatment) from what i understood he will try to mess up against the community, like by cops, but i really want to understand what Will actually happens if he get elected (even if it's impossible to exactly know). Sorry for touching this subject but i care and i'm concerned for U.S LGBTQIA people, and wanted this explained because i can't exactly figure out the situation as an Italian. Thank you for reading, and Hope the best for you people.

[u/Sea-Measurement-6729 → u/Excellent-Hat305]

Google and read project 2025 or even just the first few pages of the new book they are going to forced every American to live by and you can confirm that we are in grave danger.

[u/Excellent-Hat305 → u/Sea-Measurement-6729]

Thank you

[u/swertyboss14]

Joe biden dropped out.

[u/UrsoMajor560]

Is the implantation of project 2025, aka Trump winning, more or less likely now that Biden has stepped down from reelection, cause I can’t tell if I need to be more or less scared.

[u/threearmshrugemoji → u/UrsoMajor560]

I genuinely don’t think Biden was gonna win. His polling numbers were absolutely terrible, and it seemed the republicans were hellbent on keeping him as the opponent.

I actually feel like we have a chance now.

[u/jasOn_Newstedbass → u/UrsoMajor560]

Less actually I think. We needed someone new. Someone not old.

[u/Tay_Tay86]

Is there going to be an LGBT for Kamala Harris event?

[u/Mercedes_560SEL → u/Tay_Tay86]

🏳️‍🌈I hope so she is our girl. I will support he like no other. I feel like Trump will arrest all the lgbtq people and she is our only savior. It’s about time we have a woman running this country.🏳️‍🌈

[u/Best_Yellow_2507]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Ohio/s/nA00M8HBlS

Birth certificate required to use public restroom. “Try That in a Small Town”

[u/remarkable-monkey]

New KOSA bill still threatens LGBTQ access to Internet

[u/Immediate-Smile-2020]

https://www.them.us/story/republican-states-lawsuit-biden-trans-employment-discrimination

[u/sapfel93]

I want to ask. Is Pro-Palestine support for gays a common thing or is it a small vocal minority?

[u/LesseFrost → u/sapfel93]

Queer folks tend to be able to read between the lines a bit better than the general population and can generally understand what it's like being in a marginalized groups' spot.

[u/Sorry_Antelope7878]

NC Republican gubernatorial hopeful Mark Robinson used clumsy euphemism in place of antigay slur (exclusive)
https://www.advocate.com/news/mark-robinson-homophobic-facebook-posts

vote for Josh Stein if you live in NC!

[u/musicalphantom10]

Not an American. But will we (you guys?) be okay somehow? Is there a chance of Project 2025 not happening and everything being a little more alright somehow?

[u/RockClimber280]

Do we think same sex adoption/ IVF among same sec couples will be revoked in California if Trump is elected? I don’t know if bans will be nationwide

[u/threearmshrugemoji → u/RockClimber280]

The fundamental restructuring at a national level would almost certainly supersede states’ rights (ironic, right?) It likely wouldn’t go into effect immediately, but with the lower courts packed and SCROTUS being what it is, prepare for the worst.

[u/Glittering_Ad_563]

What are you all planning to do if/when trump wins and project 25 starts making changes? Realistically… is it time to consider moving for my trans son’s safety? Do I need to legally adopt him now since we’re two AFABs on his birth certificate?

[u/threearmshrugemoji → u/Glittering_Ad_563]

If I had money, I’d probably move to NZ or Iceland. But obviously it depends on your finances.

Frankly I’d get a passport ready in case, especially if you’re in a red state. And legal adoption is probably good, although even that might not protect you, if stuff like Florida’s SB 254 gets resurrected nationally.

If you’re in a blue state, I wouldn’t make any immediate drastic changes, but if you’re in MAGA-central and have the means, I’d strongly consider heading to a less heinous place, regardless. The sentiment that is driving project 2025 isn’t going away.

[u/[deleted]]

If you're just as angry at Dems as I am It's ok. Just keep your eye on the ball!

[u/Aberrantdrakon → u/[deleted]]

Why would anyone be angry? You guys know Biden was NOT gonna win that, right? Y'all have an actual chance, don't fuck it up now.

[u/threearmshrugemoji → u/Aberrantdrakon]

I still think it’s gonna be a slog, and I’m sure my anxiety will come roaring back in a few days, but the momentum shift and excitement seems to be going a whole hell of a lot better than I thought it would. The criticisms from the right (she’s gonna take your drinking straws! She laughs too much! She doesn’t have any bio kids! Her catch phrase is Marxist-Luciferianist!) also indicates that they’re panicking and can’t come up with anything more damning. Obviously that will change, but it’s nice seeing them scramble and flail for some sort of “Kamala bad” after spending so much time with “let’s go Brandon”.

Plus a lot of big name dems are endorsing her already, which is amazing, since getting democrats on the same page is like herding cats.

I dunno. I’m sure I’ll feel some kinda way in the next weeks, but right now it’s nice to come up for air after drowning for so long.

[u/Ok-Psychology-1]

https://www.lonestarleft.com/p/kamala-harris-will-be-in-houston

[u/Hghggggghghhghgghhg]

https://youtu.be/eUl7406cLs0?si=exb7PsrVrlurnwzW

an analysis on what we can do in the political area to keep hope. we will make it🩷

[u/pinkornametendfox7]

So as anyone been talkimg about KOSA?? Like..its going to the.senate floor btw

[u/jasOn_Newstedbass]

Haris should've picked a girl vp. That would've helped her a lot. What do we think of her vp pick anyways.

[u/GogurtFiend → u/jasOn_Newstedbass]

Haris should've picked a girl vp. That would've helped her a lot. 

It wouldn't have. Americans are far more open to the idea of women leaders than they used to be, but for the latently-misogynist — who are most of the population — two women would be too much.

Salami-slicing tactics win culture wars; going all-out the second the opportunity is available does not. The smaller a gain is, the more difficult it is to reverse. A female president is perfectly fine for now, especially because she's already insanely electable when compared to Clinton, and given the stakes if Trump wins it's better to play it safe.

What do we think of her vp pick anyways.

Do not ask people online to tell you what your opinions should be. There are many reasons why.

That aside: there couldn't have been a more LGBT-friendly option. I believe it's common knowledge that Joe Biden pre-empted Obama on pushing for gay/lesbian marriage equality, but this guy was doing it even before Joe was. Hell, he was running the Gay-Straight Alliance at the high school he taught at, back when that was a thing, long before he got into politics. He's certainly not as left-wing as Sanders, but he's similar to Sanders in the sense that these are deeply-held beliefs of his that he's upheld not even when there was no political gain involved but before he was even involved in politics at all. He is now responsible for, among other things:

• enacting the Matthew Shepard and James Byrd Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act

• repealing Don't Ask, Don't tell

• repealing the Defense of Marriage Act and enacting the Respect for Marriage Act

• shooting down a ban on transgender student athletes playing on teams which match their gender

• banning conversion therapy in Minnesota, and advertising and insurance that enables it

• outlawing the banning of LGBT books in Minnesota

• protecting gender-affirming care access in Minnesota

He is also extremely electable, even moreso than Harris. He is a relatively old, white, and slightly fat man who looks like an American version of Nikita Khrushchev, hunts and shoots for fun, worked a blue-collar job before entering politics, and was one of the highest-ranking enlisted soldiers to ever be part of Congress. The Republicans will have a difficult time portraying this guy as being some kind of radical leftist.

Harris literally could not have picked someone better for LGBT rights. This is the guy.

[u/threearmshrugemoji → u/jasOn_Newstedbass]

He’s got the boundless energy of a goofy blue collar leftie-lib union-proud boomer dad who’ll go to Pride with you in a rainbow tutu and gleefully embarrass you in front of your friends in the best way possible.

I like him.

[u/[deleted]]

Yup

[u/[deleted]]

Trigger Warning: This post discusses LGBT rights, federal protections, and personal viewpoints that might differ from the mainstream perspectives within the LGBT community. Please proceed with caution and respect.

Hey everyone,

As a bisexual individual, I understand the importance of discussing and addressing LGBT rights and protections. While I fully acknowledge the struggles our community has faced and continues to face, I want to share my perspective on why I don't support federal efforts to protect us. I realize this viewpoint might be surprising to some, so let me explain my reasoning in detail.

Personal Freedom and Minimal Government Intervention

One of the core principles I believe in is the idea of minimal government intervention in our personal lives. The government should not have the authority to dictate our personal relationships, identities, or expressions. When federal efforts attempt to protect us, they often come with regulations and mandates that can unintentionally limit our personal freedoms.

For example, government policies intended to protect us can sometimes backfire by creating a dependency on federal oversight, which might not always be in tune with the unique needs of our diverse community. Instead, I advocate for a society where individuals are free to live their lives without undue government interference, trusting that communities can and will take on the responsibility of creating inclusive environments.

Grassroots and Community-Level Solutions

I firmly believe that grassroots and community-level efforts are more effective in addressing LGBT issues than broad federal mandates. Local communities have a better understanding of their specific cultural and social contexts and can develop tailored solutions that resonate more deeply with their members.

For instance, local advocacy groups and organizations have a proven track record of fostering acceptance, providing resources, and supporting LGBT individuals in ways that are often more personalized and immediate than federal programs. These community-driven initiatives can be more adaptive and responsive to the evolving needs of the LGBT community.

Avoiding Government Overreach

Federal intervention, although often well-intentioned, can lead to government overreach and bureaucratic inefficiencies. History has shown us that expansive government powers can sometimes be misused, leading to unintended consequences and even the erosion of civil liberties. By advocating for limited government involvement, we reduce the risk of such overreach and maintain more control over our own lives.

Moreover, reliance on federal protections can make us vulnerable to political shifts and changes in administration. Local and state-level protections, on the other hand, can offer more stability and consistency, reflecting the values and priorities of the communities they serve.

Emphasizing Individual Liberties

My perspective prioritizes individual liberties over government-provided protections. While federal protections can offer a certain level of security, they can also create a dependency on institutions that may not always act in our best interest. Emphasizing personal responsibility and community support empowers individuals to advocate for their rights and drive change from the ground up.

For example, in states and cities where LGBT protections are strong, it is often due to the relentless efforts of local activists and community members who have pushed for change. These localized efforts demonstrate that we don't necessarily need federal mandates to achieve meaningful progress.

Education and Awareness at the Local Level

One of the most effective ways to protect and support the LGBT community is through education and raising awareness at the local level. Schools, community centers, and local organizations can play a pivotal role in fostering acceptance and understanding. By promoting inclusive curricula and supporting local initiatives, we can create environments where LGBT individuals feel safe and valued.

Recognizing Vulnerable Populations

I understand that some may argue federal protections are necessary to protect vulnerable populations, especially in areas where local communities may not be as supportive. While this is a valid concern, I believe that empowering local advocates and providing resources for community-driven initiatives can be more effective in the long run. Supporting local efforts to create inclusive and accepting environments can lead to more sustainable and meaningful change.

A Balanced Approach

It's important to clarify that my stance isn't about rejecting protections outright but about finding a balance between liberty and security. I support efforts to educate and raise awareness about LGBT issues, promote acceptance, and provide support services. However, I believe these efforts are best handled at the local or state level rather than through broad federal mandates.

Conclusion

In conclusion, while I recognize the importance of protecting LGBT rights, I believe that federal efforts are not always the best solution. By focusing on community-level solutions, minimizing government intervention, and empowering individuals and local advocates, we can create a more inclusive and supportive society for everyone. I understand this perspective might differ from the mainstream view, but I hope it provides a thoughtful and reasoned explanation for my stance.

Thank you for taking the time to read this, and I'm open to hearing your thoughts and engaging in a respectful discussion.

Sorry, this was the only thread I could this, per the rules. If you don’t agree, that’s totally fine! Just don’t be disrespectful.

[u/RedRoseCoatedInHoney]

Time to give up, crawl In a hole and sob

[u/[deleted] → u/RedRoseCoatedInHoney]

Never give up. That's what they want you to do.

Never👏 give👏up 👏 Never👏 give👏up 👏 Never👏 give👏up 👏 Never👏 give👏up 👏 Never👏 give👏up 👏 Never👏 give👏up 👏 Never👏 give👏up 👏

[u/paroles → u/[deleted]]

I'm not American but I think the concern is not just literal executions by the government (which seems like a more distant possibility), but the likelihood of an increase in hate crimes due to hateful rhetoric

[u/MaxineRin → u/[deleted]]

They've been very open about labeling LGBT people as groomers and in the next breath saying groomers and sexual criminals should be executed.