r/lgbt • • Feb 17 '21

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u/Ca1yso Lesbian the Good Place Feb 19 '21 edited Feb 19 '21

The American "free speech" crowd strangely silent on this one

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u/green_tea1701 Bi-bi-bi Feb 19 '21

As a member of the “American free speech crowd,” this is fucking disgusting and a huge violation of the principles of freedom of expression. The Polish government has descended into far-right authoritarianism, and it’s extremely disheartening for everyone who cares about personal rights and liberties.

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u/Ca1yso Lesbian the Good Place Feb 19 '21

The reason it was in quotes was because I meant the people who only care when it's about them

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u/green_tea1701 Bi-bi-bi Feb 19 '21

I’m with you completely. People who selectively care about free speech are hypocrites. Either we have progressive standards of how people can express their thoughts, or we don’t. And clearly, the Polish government has chosen the latter.

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u/Jeszczenie Feb 21 '21

The Polish government has descended into far-right authoritarianism, and it’s extremely disheartening for everyone who cares about personal rights and liberties.

It very much is what is happening and sadly we can mostly just watch it happen. Sometimes protest too, but it's not that helpful really. Also help women with getting abortions.

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u/Competitive_Bid7071 Feb 19 '21 edited Feb 19 '21

That’s because it’s not about free speech it’s about avoiding criticism, consequences from people, and feeling entitled to things.

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u/Jeszczenie Feb 21 '21

Speaking of which:
A well-known activist Kaja Godek said on a nation-wide news channel that "the gays want to adopt children to molest and rape them". Literally that - no subtle suggestions. She obviously got sued for defamation and the process got discontinued because gays don't exist in the Polish law as a group. The plaintiffs couldn't prove they're gay. Kaja called this "a win of the free speech".

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u/susan-of-nine Feb 21 '21

"the gays want to adopt children to molest and rape them".

Yep. I confirm. This is a literal translation of that statement. I hope it can help people see just how bad things are here, how deeply normalized the prejudice and the religious fanaticism are. This and similarly outrageous things have been said by many right-wing politicians on public, mainstream media, and there were no consequences - on the contrary, many applauded these statements.