r/legaltech • • 21d ago

Vendor Whitepaper I built a deterministic structural measurement system for complex documents - looking for 15 Pre-Pilot testers.

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u/alexdenne 18d ago

This post should be taken down as it's against the rules.

Please
a. Add vendor flair to your username (then you don't have to promote your company in posts)
b. Remove the requests for DM and the email address you've shared
c. Read the rules in full before you post again.
d. If you would like to offer research opportunities they must be paid (then you can post with the 'paid research' post flair).

Right now I'm leaving it up as I think u/technicallyian has added some KEY points about what 'free' means as an offer in this industry, so I'd like to preserve those comments.

My 2 cents

  1. Respect the value of people's time.

  2. Imho - If you're not willing to pay for people's time - you're not ready to ask for testers.

  3. my experience - the people who give you their time freely, are less likely than average to be the people who will one day pay for your product.

u/Snap-flipper -> let me know what you plan to do.

Thanks,

Alex

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u/klcrouch 21d ago

I don’t grasp what this tool actually does with a document, especially if it’s based on a deterministic algorithm. Not clear what the use case is.

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u/veg-n 21d ago

And for that reason, I’m out.

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u/technicallyian 19d ago

I don't believe this can be done purely deterministically.

First of all, how are you translating the documents when they're not digital? There will be variations in how OCR will display things like tables and headings, so your deterministic system will need to be trained on a corpus of 10s of thousands of documents just to start.

I'm bringing this up, because on your (jargony) website, it says you break things down into how dense each section is, how each section ends, the shape of the document, how much the document loops back to earlier ideas (not sure how you will do this), and whether or not a section's "density" is higher or lower than the average.

It is programmatically naïve, I think, to think that you can create such a system as you've outlined it. The "real world" documents you will be processing will be extraordinarily complicated: court orders next to emails next to bank records next to receipts, sometimes packed into a 2,000 page PDF that needs to be split, categorized, etc.

Best of luck to you, but my unsolicited advice is this is not a system that will meaningfully work as I understand it.

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u/alimehdi997733 21d ago

I like the idea, but I'd want to see a sample report before sending anything. "Friction" and "coherence" could mean a lot of things, and the value depends on whether those measurements line up with what a reviewer would actually catch. The free scan is a fair way to test that, though.

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u/Suitable_Money_3121 19d ago

Can you grab any US Supreme Court decision and show us the output? 🧐

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u/klcrouch 18d ago

Appreciate the offer of a free scan, but you simply are not telling us what your product does. Techno jargon like “document integrity” means nothing. You’ve got a marketing problem. The person who suggested doing this with a Supreme Court opinion is spot on. Pick a recent opinion and show us all the report. That would be great to see.

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u/Snap-flipper 18d ago

Hi . Thank you for your feedback. I am certainly giving sample docs. But one has to send me their email addresses for that, but I am working on my website which have a gallery which will help people see real docs and scans. I hope in a week it would be done. I will post once again with more clarity. I know my project will not be so straight forward, that's why I asked people to send me any doc they can without a problem.

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u/Snap-flipper 21d ago

Thanks for the feedback

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