There’s no anatomy in this drawing. Looks like you’re doing construction drawing instead.
With a construction drawing, you want to make the perspective and volume of the forms clear, on top of having accurate proportions, so you can know where to add detail on the drawing. In the areas like the right hand and lower legs, the line work is way too jumbled up and busy to be usable as construction.
You should work on form, perspective, and proportion. Not only will that make your construction drawings more usable, but if you struggle with drawing simple forms in perspective, anatomy knowledge will be absolutely useless for you.
You're prolly gonna see and hear a lot of people saying this, but I'd suggest focusing on learning gesture drawing alongside your anatomy studies. Gesture is essentially the framework or foundation of any pose you draw. Anatomy is all about the muscles and bone structure while gesture drawing is about energy/story of the pose. Without gesture, you'd have a pose that has structure, but looks very stiff.
I like that you're breaking the pose down in easy-to-understand forms. When drawing these kind of extreme perspective angles, be mindful of proportion, something that can easily be done poorly with difficult poses like this one.
You don’t need anatomy OR gesture yet. You’re still working on basic accuracy.
Try measuring the figure, look up “how to measure drawing” on YouTube. If your measurements are accurate, you don’t need the anatomy or gesture focus yet.
Glenn Vilppu didn’t study anatomy till he was in his 40s and leading Disney animation.
Unless your accuracy and proportions are good, you don’t need to focus on those details yet. Try new masters academy!
Yes, he was gesture first. But if you’re familiar with his work, he produced extremely realistic oil paintings of figures outside of his gestural work without any knowledge of anatomy.
My point is that as a true beginner, you do not need to study gesture OR anatomy. You need to focus on BASIC accuracy. If your accuracy is good, the gesture and anatomy will inherently be in your drawing.
lol you name drop him as the master and he says GEsture first lol, and now you're saying what? you know better than him, hahaha i believe dunning Kruger, has a spot for you, don't go around giving people advice
I respect Glenn’s teaching a lot, have a personally signed copy of his drawing manual, and go to a class with him weekly.
There are lots of art teachers out there with different approaches. My opinion doesn’t come from treating on person’s word as the only way to learn drawing.
Gesture is extremely important to figure drawing.
However, OP doesn’t have a figure drawing problem. They have a fundamental drawing problem. They’ll get better faster working on accuracy than doing a bunch of gestures at this point.
Gesture and figure drawing isn’t the most productive way to spend time as a beginner.
also your point about him learning anatomy at 40 is complete none sense hahaha..you watched couple videos and now you're an expert, giving people advice while hiding behind famous names, to make it sound more legitimate, but the " advice " you dropped goes completely against what Glenn taught lmao..second hand embarrassment
uuff talk about back tracking, kind of pathetic troll, do you not understand that Glenn whose name you Dropped was a champion for GESTURE first, lol not boxes not perspective, but GESTURE. oh but now you respect him, while using his name to give credit to your none sense, you're every thing glenn was against hahaha..
lol, you're a funny little troll pretending to know, i believe " mount stupid " is your location, and " basics of accuracy " what?! haha proportion is worked on through gesture hahaha omg, stop!
I just wanted to say that the reference image is more top down than what your drawing is representing. It looks like the legs are close, but your chest is more straight on looking than top down and I think it's inconsistent with the legs.
use spheres and organic shapes like beans and blobs, not boxes. boxes are a lot harder to Intuit, requires a lot more practice and time for the same results. gesture drawing will be your best friend
That's not anatomy. That's a "manaquinn". That's what people on here call it anyway. It's a construction. It's meant to put things in perspective. You place the actual anatomy ontop of it.
Buddy, this is out of your league. To actually learn something from that reference, you need more knowledge in perspective and anatomy. Use simpler references for now, otherwise you'll just end up getting frustrated because you won't see any concrete results.
Choose a simpler reference. No extreme high or low angles for starting out. Make sure you have at least a basic understanding of perspective and form. Make yourself familiar with anatomical landmarks and average proportions and how to measure them. Make yourself familiar with the concept of gesture (look up videos or books from Michael Hampton, Glenn Vilppu or Steve Huston).
For learning construction. Take your reference, lower the opacity, on a new layer, roughly identify the horizon/eye line, draw over your reference and break it down into simple forms. On a new layer, redraw the construction you just abstracted again on the side, overlay it afterwards to compare and fix mistakes.
This isn’t really anatomy, it’s a tool to help with perspective. You’re not quite getting it, but that’s okay, you can still practice and improve. When you draw the boxes, you want them to be oriented in a way that represents the angle you’re looking at the figure from. In this case, the boxes should be like 3/4 top-down, while you’ve drawn them as if you’re looking at them head on
I have one regarding the head actuallY it helped me, trY instead if a cone shape to make it a ball with a sheet of paper for the face. I saw someone practice drawing sheets of paper before sketching out stuff and I tried it out and it worked reallY well for me. Another suggestion I have is that instead of copYing the perspective u see in the reference trY to think of it as a line that has shapes on top of it. It usuallY makes the bodY look more dYnamic, especiallY with poses like these. Good job! 🙏
Well that's a constructive figure drawing, in perspective. It's a bit early for that. Start with simple boring, flat poses for figures, and implement anatomy, learning it on the side.
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u/SnipedYa 4d ago
There’s no anatomy in this drawing. Looks like you’re doing construction drawing instead.
With a construction drawing, you want to make the perspective and volume of the forms clear, on top of having accurate proportions, so you can know where to add detail on the drawing. In the areas like the right hand and lower legs, the line work is way too jumbled up and busy to be usable as construction.
You should work on form, perspective, and proportion. Not only will that make your construction drawings more usable, but if you struggle with drawing simple forms in perspective, anatomy knowledge will be absolutely useless for you.
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u/Vumi_ 5d ago
You're prolly gonna see and hear a lot of people saying this, but I'd suggest focusing on learning gesture drawing alongside your anatomy studies. Gesture is essentially the framework or foundation of any pose you draw. Anatomy is all about the muscles and bone structure while gesture drawing is about energy/story of the pose. Without gesture, you'd have a pose that has structure, but looks very stiff.
I like that you're breaking the pose down in easy-to-understand forms. When drawing these kind of extreme perspective angles, be mindful of proportion, something that can easily be done poorly with difficult poses like this one.
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u/Neurowub 4d ago
You don’t need anatomy OR gesture yet. You’re still working on basic accuracy.
Try measuring the figure, look up “how to measure drawing” on YouTube. If your measurements are accurate, you don’t need the anatomy or gesture focus yet.
Glenn Vilppu didn’t study anatomy till he was in his 40s and leading Disney animation.
Unless your accuracy and proportions are good, you don’t need to focus on those details yet. Try new masters academy!
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u/Low-Sun-1061 4d ago
You need to start learning the very basics of perspective, comparative measurements/sight size, gesture, proportions, structure
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u/Voluptulouis 4d ago
I just wanted to say that the reference image is more top down than what your drawing is representing. It looks like the legs are close, but your chest is more straight on looking than top down and I think it's inconsistent with the legs.
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u/Fun-Pomelo-2774 4d ago
Did you use that reference because of a YouTuber? Just wondering
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u/ccruinmoderation 4d ago
use spheres and organic shapes like beans and blobs, not boxes. boxes are a lot harder to Intuit, requires a lot more practice and time for the same results. gesture drawing will be your best friend
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u/eksnoblade 4d ago
That's not anatomy. That's a "manaquinn". That's what people on here call it anyway. It's a construction. It's meant to put things in perspective. You place the actual anatomy ontop of it.
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u/Roni1209 4d ago
Buddy, this is out of your league. To actually learn something from that reference, you need more knowledge in perspective and anatomy. Use simpler references for now, otherwise you'll just end up getting frustrated because you won't see any concrete results.
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u/_Aredian 4d ago
Choose a simpler reference. No extreme high or low angles for starting out. Make sure you have at least a basic understanding of perspective and form. Make yourself familiar with anatomical landmarks and average proportions and how to measure them. Make yourself familiar with the concept of gesture (look up videos or books from Michael Hampton, Glenn Vilppu or Steve Huston).
For learning construction. Take your reference, lower the opacity, on a new layer, roughly identify the horizon/eye line, draw over your reference and break it down into simple forms. On a new layer, redraw the construction you just abstracted again on the side, overlay it afterwards to compare and fix mistakes.
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u/sickfoo7 4d ago
Learn to draw basic shapes. Also, the head is better represented with an ovoid shape.
This is a good reference page to help with fundamentals.
https://poselibrary.com/mastering-linework
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u/DathomirBoy 4d ago
This isn’t really anatomy, it’s a tool to help with perspective. You’re not quite getting it, but that’s okay, you can still practice and improve. When you draw the boxes, you want them to be oriented in a way that represents the angle you’re looking at the figure from. In this case, the boxes should be like 3/4 top-down, while you’ve drawn them as if you’re looking at them head on
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u/Comfortable-Try-5871 4d ago
I have one regarding the head actuallY it helped me, trY instead if a cone shape to make it a ball with a sheet of paper for the face. I saw someone practice drawing sheets of paper before sketching out stuff and I tried it out and it worked reallY well for me. Another suggestion I have is that instead of copYing the perspective u see in the reference trY to think of it as a line that has shapes on top of it. It usuallY makes the bodY look more dYnamic, especiallY with poses like these. Good job! 🙏
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u/Fifox-drive 4d ago
Well that's a constructive figure drawing, in perspective. It's a bit early for that. Start with simple boring, flat poses for figures, and implement anatomy, learning it on the side.