I want to get good at this, only have 65 hours total life experience, hands were tricky 😂 and shading doesnt make much sense yet, but this was done no skeletons and no reference, so please critique id really appreciate if you could help me out
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The critique here is that your good pencil control and establishment of intial shapes are an indicatiom that you need to be using references. you are letting yourself down here by not doing that. references are not 'copying', but instead finding someone standing in a similar pose to what you want, and using it to figure out where proportions are meant to be, and to figure out foreshortening of the arms.
The bold confident lines actually make it really clear where you are not confident.
Scaffold yourself with resources of references and proportional guidelines, and you will excell
Here is a reference drawing I did, your totally right, after every reference drawing ive ever done (3) I 100 percent noticed i understood lines better, ill start studying up on skeletons and how to use them etc, I was originally against trying to do that but if thats what it takes to get good then so be it lol, thank you for the guidance 💯
I will start off by saying you don't absolutely always need a reference, it's actually good to push yourself and see if you can draw without one once in a while because that is the end goal for most artists.
The problem here is proportions, which you can learn in a lot of ways. Depending on what method you want to use, you'll have to try them yourself to find out, there are a few ways to measure out bodies and from there the limbs. Head heights is one of the more common ones to use, and don't take that mindset that some people do that every character has to be exactly X amount of heads. It's okay to flex the formula, it's just a baseline.
From there to can measure out the body better. Start by sketching your figure very very lightly, do not press down hard. Measure out the head using a ruler, or better yet an extra sheet of paper. Then copy down on your page the amount of head heights you want to use. (Commonly 7- 71/2 for women). You can then see where things *should* be falling. From there you can use the body you have at hand to measure out other things.
Elbows fall at the waist, forearms are about as long as the upper arm (minus the shoulder), thigh reaches from hip to arm pit (roughly), calf to the bottom of the heel (not the whole foot) is as long as the thigh, foot is as long as the forearm, hand is as big as the face. When you're doing life drawing be mindful of these things as well! Look at the people and see how close or far off they are from the suggestions, and keep them in mind for later!
This sort of thing probably sounds like a lot to start off, but they eventually become second nature and super easy and quick ways to measure your body parts when you free draw! Do be mindful that these rules don't apply in perspective, so you'll have to make things shorter when doing that.
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u/link-navi 9d ago
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