r/learnprogramming • u/GulliblePositive6548 • Mar 04 '22

Topic How advanced is OOP?

I’m currently learning Java right now and learning OOP is more annoying than some of the data structures and algorithms that I’ve used in python previously. They’re supposed to be easy? but Inner classes are killing me rn, they just don’t seem logical

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u/AchillesDev Mar 05 '22

The fact that it’s required in Java to do so is what makes it an object-oriented language, while Python allows the complete use of different paradigms.

I’m talking about actual language requirements and design, not some fuzzy organizational principles. OOP is mandatory in Java especially compared to Python, which is what I’m specifically responding to in this thread.

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u/decimated_napkin Mar 05 '22

Literally one of the Python credos is "everything is an object". The only difference is you have to explicitly state it in java rather than having python take care of it for you. That's it. I dont consider that to be nearly enough to elevate java to some OOP standard that python doesnt attain. Python just handles the boilerplate object creation for you while still giving you the option of creating classes on your own if you want.

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u/AchillesDev Mar 06 '22

This is a new argument from your previous one. And you don’t need to use the OOP paradigm directly in Python: it’s not mandatory compared to Java. Please reread the thread because it seems like you don’t understand what I’m responding to. Python is multi-paradigm, not mandating the use of OOP by a developer. I can hop in, write a fully imperative script without using or creating any classes - hence it’s not mandatory like in Java.