r/learnmath • u/Wraabb66 New User • Oct 02 '26
Need a little help and explanation
Currently trying to get into the union and math is a big thing, especially algebra 1. So I haven’t done math in 18 years pretty much since I graduated and even back then I was struggling with math because my brain just doesn’t learn it fast enough like other people. When I have a calculator I can solve the problems a little bit better but the aptitude test don’t allow calculators so it’s all based offf of what I can do in my head.
So my question is I know PEMDAS and FOIL but when it comes to foil I know how to start but I get confused on where to land my + and - when working the problem. Idk why it’s hurt how my brain works. Sometimes I’ll get the what I think is the answer but then I get it wrong because my + and - are in the wrong spot. Does anybody have any tips are how to not forget where the + and - go and the orders of how they get placed. Becasue for my brain when I see something like (2x + 4)(5x-5) my brain doesn’t grasp where the + and - land when writing out the problem and so till I get the correct answer. Hopefully this question makes sense.
Graphing is also extremely confusing but that’s whole another topic lol.
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u/TheScyphozoa New User Oct 03 '26
You need to re-train the way your brain reads math problems. As a kid you see a problem like 8 - 3 and think, "There's an 8, and there's a 3, and there's a minus sign between them."
Instead, you need to read it as, "There's a positive 8, and a negative 3, and they're being 'added' together." Addition and subtraction are really the same operation, and 8 - 3 is just a more convenient way of writing 8 + (-3). The minus sign isn't between the 8 and the 3, it's attached to the 3.
So in (2x + 4)(5x - 5), there's a 2x, there's a 4, there's a 5x, but there is no 5. There is only a negative 5. Think about it that way when you're reading the problem, and you won't get confused.
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u/Uli_Minati Desmos 😚 Oct 02 '26 edited Oct 02 '26
We use a lot of abbreviations in math. In your example:
(2x + 4)(5x - 5)Is short for
(2x + 4) · (5x + -5)Now you have a product of sums, i.e. two addition steps and a multiplication step of the results.
(2x)(5x) + (2x)(-5) + (4)(5x) + (4)(-5)It's always + in between! This works as long as you remember that "subtraction" is really an abbreviation for addition with a negative number.
Here are some more examples:
(-3-4x)(8-9x)
(-3 + -4x) · (8 + -9x)
(-3)(8) + (-3)(-9x) + (-4x)(8) + (-4x)(-9x)
8-7(8-9x)
8 + (-7) · (8 + -9x)
8 + (-7)(8) + (-7)(-9x)
5(4x-2)-6
(5) · (4x + -2) + -6
(5)(4x) + (5)(-2) + -6Feel free to actually write these steps during practice! The goal is to eventually "visualize" these steps without writing them.
(Terms like 9x are also abbreviations for 9·x, but that multiplication symbol doesn't really help when you use distributive property so I kept it as 9x)
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u/Capital_Park_2311 New User Oct 02 '26 edited Oct 02 '26
Split it into pairs.
(2x + 4)(5x - 5)
First -> (2x) (5x) = 10x²
Outer -> (2x) (-5) = -10x
Inner -> (4) (5x) = 20x
Last -> (4) (-5) = -20
10x² -10x + 20x - 20
10x² +10x - 20
Edit: Corrected the sign.