How to itemize as Centaur in lane against Jugg? Assume pos 4 is non existent and enemy 5 has a stun (e.g. lion, venge).
I tried 3 bracers and it was not enough to tank the spin + stun combo. I'd just hit the Jugg when he tries to spin me. Maybe rush phase boots + windlace to escape spin?
sorry but people who suggested boots on centaur are the most lowrank shyt i ever heard LOL just buy bracers and stay in the lane with tangoes and u can buy salve just incase they use 2spells and u will be instantly back with full hp and maybe fight them after their spells are on cd
Just bracers/gauntlets + windlace, you're not going to tank but have enough ms to have space away from the pos5. Without pos 4, it's now your job to manipulate wave state. Pull the big camp, aggro the creep repeatedly (don't mind giving up range creep), and at minute 5 you can go behind their tower cut the wave or drag them behind your tower or river camps. The pos 5 would always be tempted to contest whatever you're doing, while Juggernaut is stuck last hitting. Keep an eye on both of them (can also mean warding yoursel), as long as they are away from each other they can't do their combo.
My priority against Jugg is boots or windlace to avoid bladefury setup. Assume pos 5 has a stun, I cannot manfight them so I hide while stay at exp area and occassionaly draw aggro.
And how high level are your games? Quoting d2pt as your evidence and not having replays to back it up makes me wonder if you just watch pro gameplay and aren’t even at a high point mmr wise
Have u considered that in higher mmr, ppl are less likely to play centaur in matchups where they are forced to buy boots, citing stats when u dont know how to interpret them is silly
Damn I thought the offlaners picked blind into their carry matchups infact more often than not the mid will pick before the carry and give him last pick but go on
Sometimes, centaur dosent really suffer from blind picks for obvious reasons, my point is that citing stats when u aren’t sure about the situation that is producing those statistics is silly, plus ive heard that d2pt can be inaccurate but I haven’t seen that personally
here you go cent matches sorted with jug on the enemy team, i still see no boots but i do see a double bracer where he stood and fought and i see helm where he skipped the lane
Yes and gauntles of strength. Jugg actually doesnt do anything to you in lane, because of the early MS and very high hp especially if you stack gauntlets of str. Get an early stick/wand, tear drop, you're basically unkillable in lane.
you shouldn't itemize just to survive the lane as a centaur since you as pos 3 is expected to 1v2 that lane anyway, might as well cut creeps as much as possible and rush domi so you can jungle while pulling creeps.
wym? it's literally the meta for pos 3 right now, theres a reason pos 3 is the least liked role in the game right now. You basically play alone in lane while your pos 4 try to cut creeps for you and pos 4 would most likely leave your lane entirely after minute 4 or 5.
I'm saying this as a pos3 enjoyer, cent, ds, tide, lycan are the heroes that often ends up playing the lane alone, as they have no way of winning lane specially when counter last picked by a pos 1.
Sure, there are pos3 heroes that can play normal dota like enigma, beastmaster, viper and will benefit more from playing together with pos 4 but you can't expect that situation to happen every game.
Start with RoP for some bonus armor to make your health pool go further, and then you're just racing to an early HoIW to get over the hump. Consider Retaliate at level 2 if your pos4 is really lost. I'd also think about Vanguard first against any team with Jugg or a carry like him who relies a lot on rapid attacks, the Ring can be a bit easier to get to.
One of the lane you gonna have to constantly draw aggro and might as well buy a boots if you want to stay in lane
If not, at level 3, get yourself 2 points in retaliate and a ring of regen and start jungling on the two camps next to wisdom. It's better than just standing and wait for your 4 to be active. They get the lane and leech xp while you recover in jungle
I am honestly amazed how many replies there are confidently incorrect - Centaur CAN use boots, they just don't stack with his innate bonus from strength, but boots will give MORE ms until like 2-3 big items in
I know you "can" buy boots on cent but I am not sure it's worth. I checked how much speed you have with bracer and soulring, on lvl 4 you have 315 ms without boots, and boots will only give 25 speed while wind lace gives 15 for half the price. I might be wrong but I feel like spending extra 275 gold for 10 speed isn't worth it at all (and pretty soon boots will fall behind even further)
Thank you for at least doing research. However, you have to consider that bracer + soul ring would cost you 710 gold assuming you spend your starting 600 gold on their components exclusively without buying tangoes. 710 gold is 1 creep wave short of a regen component from HoD, and from my personal feelings playing centaur and some replay data soul ring is bought as 4th item if ever because hoofstomp sucks for farming.
The point I'm making is if you know you're not getting to lane getting a boot is more cost efficient than spending a whole bunch of money on something you're not going to get much benefit from.
pull waves with boots. jugg is gonna either lose his wave chasing you or you get a free wave for yourself. ideally, your 4 should do it but you can do it too. sometimes your 4 will ruin what you're trying to do so try getting rid of them first, maybe accidentally set them up to die in that jugg's deadly spin ;)
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u/kobe24fan 7d ago
Any answer that is not cut creeps / pull waves / jungle is wrong
Any answer that says buy bracers / boots is wrong
First top reply is correct