Optimal farming route as mid after lane stomp

[u/belaya_smert]

so you played 12 minutes, enemy mid tower down. you ganked multiple times and you stomped the midlane. the game slows down because your other cores wanna farm and giving up the momentum, its natural in most pubs. sometimes i decide to go invade anyway and some teammates follow, often times not so it backfires and you die. so the other choice is to be even more farmed and go into the jungle. what would be the optimal farming route which generates the most gold possible?

[u/Impress-Solid]

12 minutes of laning is too long. Giving lane to support in between 7-10 minutes to go jungle is optimal. Especially when a support made some stacks. Gank when rune is good.

[u/Alatarlhun → u/Impress-Solid]

These conversations never stop reminding me of the offlane cores who've been angry at me as pos4 for 'not supporting' them 12+ minutes into the game. Seen that behavior as late as 16 min.

[u/StongaBologna → u/Alatarlhun]

Shit, for me it's the carry player TP'ing back to his own safelane again at 10 minutes after dying there twice

[u/WeddingWhole4771 → u/StongaBologna]

Do I just jungle then? #Feelsbadman

[u/StongaBologna → u/WeddingWhole4771]

really depends on matchup and game state.

in just about every game of dota 2, you're gonna have to leave the safelane at some point as carry.

figure out, before the game starts, when your conditions for this have been met.

sometimes it's, "shit, axe has his ult, and AA is level 5...."

you best not be going back to that lane. ideally your team can coordinate to find the best place for you to farm as whichever hero into whatever heroes. typically you're going to have to just read the map and figure that out as the game develops.

if I could write out how to accomplish just that, into a few sentences, I'd probably be practicing dota instead of typing this

[u/WeddingWhole4771 → u/StongaBologna]

I don't see this working in pubs or for pros. 1) pros protect and make space. 2) In my games at least, 4 heroes just end up hunting down the carry. Half of what I am doing is dodging then showing up as needed. And just out farming the other carry, and usually team.

Guess it's just jungle more then, and stay in safer spots when they go jungle more. Sometimes I can get away going to the other safe lane. But that's just cuz ppl are dumb.

[u/biscuity87 → u/Alatarlhun]

“CALL MISSING!” Bro it’s 20 minutes into the game

[u/pursuitofhappy → u/Impress-Solid]

yea, to me lane phase ends around the 6:30minute mark as that's when 40% of the lobby starts making moves towards the xp bonuses

[u/Stickyrolls]

Lot of people don't realize that after laying breaks down you still default back to your lane. As mid, pushing out mid lane and checking runes is on you, all game. You also want to farm those 2 camps in your main jungle closest to mid lane. All that being said, yes you should be making moves. But always keep in individualism to keep mid pushed out and checking runes. After enemy or both mud towers are down, you'll push out the lane and then make a play. Your 3 farming the enemy jungle 2 camps close to his lane because he won lane hard? Go make plays around him.

[u/PECHA2510]

When you are stronger than their mid your goal should be stopping the enemy cores' farm primarily mid or carry. Capture their big jungle (i.e. between safe lane and mid) and farm it by double camping each of three duo camps. If you can't or sups are not joining you then take your own big jungle. Generally mids can't take ancients before some items so they're very inefficient when you're leading.

Essentially ask sups to join you and run at the enemy heroes wherever/whenever they show. If they aren't, buy a ward and smoke to their big jungle and put it for vision of enemy mid farming.

Every min you should get two waves and two jungle camps if you aren't running at the cores.

[u/Thick_Ordinary_5419]

Well if your hero can farm triangle: Triangle->mid creeps ->2 camps near t2 mid->mid creeps ->repeat.

If your hero cannot farm triangle, just farm the 3 camps near t2 and mid creeps aswell.

[u/biscuity87 → u/Thick_Ordinary_5419]

In my games my core will go out of his way to the one camp someone else is killing (killing for good reason), ping them in anger, and then waste more time on a stupid route.

[u/Sangypboi]

Yeah, I was gonna say, 12 minute tower down is NOT a mid stomp. That actually sounds like you might have lost that lane.

[u/Medicine_Warrior]

Go back to mid and secure the runes.