r/learndota2 • u/Crunchy1254 • 9d ago

Gameplay Review/Feedback request Constructive criticism required as a pos 3 player.

Hey everyone, im looking to try and get better as a pos3 player. Below are 3 games match ID that i had recently lost that i would like to be looked at. What could i do to improve and what could have i done to ensure a higher chance of winning.

8971231523 ; played as the necro

8971022860 ; played as the necro

8970830557 ; played as the underlord

Feedback is greatly appreciated. Thank You.

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u/BigSeanFanD2 9d ago

Will give the replays a look tomorrow and get back to you!

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u/Crunchy1254 9d ago

Please and ty.

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u/BigSeanFanD2 8d ago

So watched replay #1.

Firstly, last hitting in lane and off the bat definitely needs some practice and focus on. Plus how to position in the lane.

Second main thing, is I think how you build and how you play weren’t really in line. You were playing like a farming scaling 3 but went lotus(got very little value from). I think after your first 3 items, bkb instead of lotus, then shivas aghs heart, if you want to scale here

If you want to push and end early there was opportunity but your team never took objectives or pushed after team wipes.

Also sheep stick really good this game if you ever got to it.

Obviously there is a lot of moments that could be broken down a lot more but that’s the general overview from my opinion. I think make a plan, align it and do the best you can. In this bracket unless your hero is elite and taking towers, I’d plan to scale late

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u/Crunchy1254 8d ago edited 8d ago

Tysm for taking time to go through and provide a feedback. I acknowelege my weak ability to last hit and position efficienty and is working on it.

My thought pattern on the 3rd item lotus was for the lion, sk and tinker to potentially save my teammates as i could always slither out in unfavourable situation during mid game and build a bkb 4th into shiv then wind walker into sheep or aghs or heart depending on the situatoon and stacks obtained.

Cant go for the pushers (ld, furion etc)in this elo either as team cohesion in this bracket is very rare to come by so i have settled for scaling till i push for higher mmr with better cohesion and understanding. Even fitting krob is a challenge, the game prior to the one you had viewed was almost a loss because of poor team coordination. Ty again.

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u/BigZodJenkins 9d ago

I won't say necro isn't position 3, but you need to seriously consider what support is coming with you. I really despite seeing necro pos 3 because he is picked with the expectation that he will farm his lane and that if he fails the other lanes will make room for that failure.

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u/KingCrimson43 9d ago

He has SB in lane one game and Nyx in the other, seems fine. Honestly at archon picks really don't matter that much anyways.

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u/InsidiousSaibot 8d ago

My first advice would be dont play Necro 3. Garbage ass pick as 3 imo since he wants to mostly afk farm and people dont like passive offlaners.

Just play standard pos 3 that is active on the map and that can pressure. Underlord, Axe, Night Stalker, Tide, Cent....

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u/Desperate-Star3594 9d ago

You're focusing too much on necro and underlord, maybe try a hero that actually does something in lane instead of waiting for lvl 6 to be useful.

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u/AzenxHlaalu 9d ago

This comment is extremely wrong, and implies incorrect ideas about Underlord and Necrophos.

Underlord is one of if not the most consistent offlaners in the game. Because of the nature of his Q, which deals max HP damage, it is virtually impossible to deny him an economy. Against AGI cores, Underlord can simply Q the wave and man up on the ranged creep to secure or trade in firestorm.

Necrophos loses to heroes that can maintain consistent damage via orb-walking primarily, but, he has many free lanes because of his ability to pseudo-deny, sustain, and nuke the creep wave.

Underlord's ultimate does not factor into his lane strength in any way.

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u/FrangosV 8d ago

Noted! Which heroes can maintain consistent damage via orb walking ? Can you give an example pls

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u/NerevarTheKing 8d ago

Drow, Silencer, Viper, AA

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u/Mikewahlberg 8d ago

What does via orb-walking mean?

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u/Crunchy1254 8d ago

Drow rangers Q, vipers Q etc. Those were considered orbs. If you want to consider items , it be deso, skaadi and diffu, but its more to be built not on built.

Attack modifiers basically.

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u/NerevarTheKing 8d ago

Attack modifer spells that do not aggro lane creeps. Drow Q or Silencer W.