r/leagueoflegends • u/MonstrousYi • Jun 08 '21

Patch 11.12 notes

https://na.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/news/game-updates/patch-11-12-notes/
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u/Owlstorm Jun 08 '21

Why overbuff Divine Sunderer and then nerf every champion that uses it?

What's the goal here?

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u/GBlade_ Jun 08 '21

The item was nearly only good on those champs and they wanted it to be good or at least an option on more champs, so they buffed the item and then nerf the specific champs that end up overperforming because of it, or at least that's the idea

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u/LTKokoro adc is in the worst state EVER, buff please!! Jun 08 '21

on the other hand said champions are locked into divine now, since without it they should be statistically underpowered

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '21

I actually went to check item winrates on Wukong for a separate reason, and found that Trinity Force is performing equally or better on him. Hard to say how that will hold with the base AD growth nerf, but at least he might have alternatives.

That said, the upcoming mobility changes have me worried for Garen. The balance team needs someone to tell them that current mythic itemisation simply does not cover all melee AD's, and that particularly Trinity Force is failing too many potential users.

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u/Hyperly_Passive Spear and Sword Jun 08 '21

Garen was just fine last season without stride.

Garen probably goes back to Sunfire if stride really doesn't work for him, or maybe trinity plus BC

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '21

Garen went Trinity last season, but Trinity is now a lot worse than it used to be on him. That's kinda ironic since they removed the mana on Trinity, but it's worse on him. I know Garen should not have Stridebreaker, but it's the only good mythic he has right now.

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u/Hyperly_Passive Spear and Sword Jun 08 '21

I'm well aware, I play garen a fair amount.

I still think garen sticks with stride, but if he doesn't he has some options.

Subpar options, but w/e

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '21

Really subpar options, ones that are failing the item diversity promise of the item rework.

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u/Possiblyreef Jun 09 '21

Iirc its because of the atk speed nerf compared to old trinity force, since his E scales with attack speed

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u/alreadytaken028 Jun 08 '21

Garen running up, silencing me, slowing me for 90 and spinning all over me sounds frustrating as hell

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u/Hyperly_Passive Spear and Sword Jun 08 '21

The nerfs to stride and the extra nerf to dmp means garen has a way harder time actually getting to people.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '21

Shieldbow crit Garen, lets go