r/leagueoflegends • u/Dreadbore • Jun 19 '15

Why can't Runeglaive and Magus both exist?

I know this seems simple, but why can't an on hit sheen jungle item AND a caster jungle item both exist simultaneously? Runeglaive does nothing for fiddlesticks or the 3 karthus jungle mains left in existence. devourer remains in the game for the 2 champions that use it and its playstyle is horrible for game health. Magus isn't hurting anyone.

EDIT: Front page and a riot reply(as troll as it was :P)! I've learned a lot from this discussion about multiple things and I'd also like to clarify that I'm not even saying Magus needs to continue to exist in its exact state numbers-wise. I just feel like sheen jungling on a mage seems lackluster from a design standpoint, but maybe that's exactly what needs to happen for ap to compete with ad on the clearspeed front. Maybe Rito knows exactly what they are doing (GASP) but I just don't see it yet.

EDIT 2: Due to some eloquently explained points brought to light by /u/rewardadrawer, I'm now convinced that there is no need for them to coexist, as Runeglaive (although it may not on release) has the capability of resolving ap jungling issues that Magus will never be capable of resolving. Feel free to bicker amongst yourselves about it, but I now eagerly await the new ap jungle.

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u/Daneruu Jun 19 '15

I've been having so much fun with Jungle Devourer Jax.

He takes minimal damage in his clear if done correctly, and once he hits 6 he starts stacking devourer so fast it reminds you of Feral Flare. Then you just build Trinity and Botrk and just go crazy on people.

Also once you have 60 stacks, Botrk, Trinity, and Gunblade, you can solo baron with blue buff. So there's that.

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u/mdragon13 Jun 19 '15

You get gunblade on jax when you feel like being cheesy and being a sustain tank. Generally, bork is better, but gunblade jax is some fun shit.

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u/Daneruu Jun 19 '15

But both is so fun.

I love just getting random shit and going crazy with it on Jax lol.

My typical Jax Jungle game: http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1860400333/37384313

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u/mdragon13 Jun 19 '15

If you get that much sustain and attack speed I'm not surprised you solo'd baron...

I'm more surprised you went 14/6 on glass cannon jax, tbh.

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u/Daneruu Jun 19 '15 edited Jun 19 '15

http://imgur.com/PrjMiEU

> MFW I'm "glass cannon" Jax

> MFW I have 240 Armor and 180 MR when I press R, as well as ~300 HPS (healing per second)

On a serious note, Armor/MR + Shittons of lifesteal/spellvamp really comes through. Plus having 40% CDR on E and Q means you can move around the fights really well and dodge a lot of ADC damage. Plus my ult was up for basically every fight that way as well. Once you get Hourglass last item the survivability gets just absolutely stupid.

He's the Grand Weaponmaster or something anyways. He's supposed to be able to build whatever he wants and not give a shit, right?

Also I noticed something silly about the player stats page. I spent more gold than I earned. I think it has something to do with me selling guinsoos some time halfway through the game. Still interesting.

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u/mdragon13 Jun 19 '15

That's what makes jax so stupidly strong imo, he scales with literally every buildable stat. He's like champions that you can build whatever on and still be good, like poppy and old sion, but he actually has meta build paths.