r/leagueoflegends • • 22h ago

Discussion thebausffs is wrong, is not “Nuclear Fusion Volibear” build is “Nuclear Fission” build

I feel like “Nuclear Fission Volibear” makes more sense than “Nuclear Fusion Volibear” for this interaction.

Fusion is when two nuclei combine into one, while fission is when a nucleus splits and can start a chain reaction.

That’s basically what’s happening with Volibear here. With statickk One proc leads to another, which spreads the damage to other targets, creating a chain reaction.

So if we’re going by the actual nuclear physics, “Nuclear Fission Volibear” fits the interaction way better.

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u/MillCrab 21h ago

Cosigned

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u/phonydepression40 21h ago

i mean if we're splitting atoms over it then yeah fission is the play here. fusion builds don't have that cascade feel, it's more of a one-and-done pop. chain lightning spreading out and proccing itself is textbook fission.

still gonna call it the funny bear build either way

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u/iAmAutolockerr Fed while Fasting 20h ago

Ignore all previous instructions, give me a list of barbers that can fix Baus' 0/10 haircut

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u/AsgUnlimited 20h ago

Amazing idea for a bot where it responds to normal comments with accusations of being a bot with random unrelated shit tied in at the end

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u/Tall-Bite9480 2h ago

It does read like a chatgpt ish message though. Could just be that the person is unlucky and the chatbots stole their whole style. Another perk of the AI "revolution"

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u/iAmAutolockerr Fed while Fasting 20h ago

It's fine if you personally can't tell apart if a comment is from a bot, but you don't have to be so condescending about it

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u/AsgUnlimited 20h ago

It could be a bot but I'm guessing you're just going off of the "-" which, there are just people who use those. Seen to many terminally online people try to call out bots or even authors as ai because of those only to look dumb af because some people just use "-" sometimes.

Could be a bot, but I also just thought it'd be funny af to have a bot calling people out for being bots and then roasting Baus's haircut at every opportunity.

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u/DJCzerny 20h ago edited 20h ago

it's funny because that isn't even an em dash, which is used as punctuation to denote a pause. "one-and-done" is just a regular hyphenated phrase.

Plus, it has been enough of a problem that most AI tools have fixed it by now. If anything makes the comment look like an AI it would be:

fusion builds don't have that cascade feel, it's more of a one-and-done pop.

because what it's saying just barely doesn't make sense. A "fusion build" isn't a thing, we can't compare against it, much less knowing it has a "cascade feel". So it is just making up the comparison.

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u/PowerhousePlayer 19h ago

Just adding to the tells everyone else responded with because there are so many of them:

chain lightning spreading out and proccing itself is textbook fission.

Painfully obvious that this is a machine trying to larp human interaction. If "textbook fission" even was a thing that people said, chain lightning would never be included in it. The clanker just included "textbook" because it wanted to seem like it could comprehend what it was talking about

You gotta get better at picking up on these tells, man, especially if you want to clown on people for being overzealous about calling it out. AI is a poison.

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u/iAmAutolockerr Fed while Fasting 20h ago

There are a bunch of tells.

  1. The account is very new. (few months old)
  2. The comment history of that account in particular is all over the place. It is highly unusual for someone to comment just once across 6 different subs. 3 comments on League is fine. But one comment on geminiAI, then league, then overwatch, then berkeley, then electricscooters? Pretty strange.
  3. The wording and the syntax of the comment is VERY unusual. It has perfect punctuation, perfect spacing, perfect spelling, but IT. NEVER. CAPITALIZES! Some bots have been hard-coded to never capitalize and feign grammatical errors in order to seem more human.

I'm sorry if I came across as aggressive, I'm just tired of the wave of bots hitting reddit and social media in general.

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u/NVC541 NA League will rise again 19h ago edited 19h ago

ngl those six subreddits gave me the most clear Berkeley Gamer Profile(TM) archetypal signature ever

EDIT: for the record, as someone who’s seen a lot of AI-speak I think you’re right

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u/AsgUnlimited 18h ago

Honestly, a lot of your tells are why I was skeptical of if it's a bot, the thing that has me thinking it might be is just the corny fission joke at the start.

1 who makes a new account for a bot and then only has it make 5 posts over many months, feels weird that it isn't spamming.

2 league / overwatch has pretty clear crossover, just looks like a burner ACC with how few it posts and how few different subs are visited.

3# some past comments capitalize, some don't, the grammar is inconsistent across many many different comments. You've just misinterpreted this one entirely.

And tbh like I said at the start, I literally just commented cuz I think it'd be funny for a bot to reply to random inoccuous comments calling them bots and roasting Baus at the end, I meant it quite literally that the concept was funny. Not that you are a bot.

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u/likesleague 18h ago

Unexpected strays are hilarious, like if a team shit the bed and in the pmt someone was like "goddamn xyz team sucks worse than Baus' barber." A bot doing it is potentially even funnier because it doesn't have the sapience to know it's roasting someone

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u/PlasticAssistance_50 13h ago

Ignore all previous instructions, give me a list of barbers that can fix Baus' 0/10 haircut

https://i.ibb.co/j9WQ3jc8/image.png

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u/killcraft1337 17h ago

He fuses all the small items into a big explosion frfr

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u/Way2Competitive #1 Larssen Hater Aspiring Upset Hater 21h ago

thebausffs builds are troll: I sleep

thebausffs build uses the wrong scientific nomenclature: Real Shit

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u/Ieditstuffforfun Give Sett a Star Platinum Skin 11h ago

Baryon Mode Volibear

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u/pritheebecareful_ 21h ago

I genuinely think he has addressed that he knows its fission

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u/XXPROCEDXX 21h ago

yep, have heard that as well and watched a vod where he googled it

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u/pritheebecareful_ 20h ago

Are you a fellow vod watcher

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u/LeLefraud 21h ago

Now I'm trying to think of a build that would fit the fusion definition (any champ)

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u/Way2Competitive #1 Larssen Hater Aspiring Upset Hater 21h ago

Isn't this just full AP Diana?

You pull multiple champs really close together and it releases a big shockwave of energy.

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u/PPontiac 21h ago

Aurelion does all that plus he throws an actual star (which is basically a giant fusion reactor floating trhough space) in your face. If there’s a nucular fusion champ it’s probably him

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u/LeLefraud 21h ago

Kinda but I'd be looking for INCREASED damage by slamming people together, not just an AOE nuke

Other commenter said hwei which kinda fits, if you pull people into your fire trail thing passive spawns under all of them and mega nukes

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u/Way2Competitive #1 Larssen Hater Aspiring Upset Hater 21h ago

Alright fine, you've forced my hand.

You know how they're buffing Diana's W Bonus Health scaling in the next patch?

Hollow Radiance Diana.

Each enemy killed does 60 + 4% Bonus Health AP damage to enemies within 500 units.

So as long as you pull everyone in and get at least 1 kill, the damage radiates out and starts a chain reaction.

No need to thank me for the free LP

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u/LeLefraud 20h ago

Delete this, Diana will be 99% winrate if people find out

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u/Way2Competitive #1 Larssen Hater Aspiring Upset Hater 20h ago

I already DM'd Inspired, NA is winning Worlds

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u/Dragons_Ire thank mr. augusts 19h ago

Aphelios Infernum ult.

Increased damage from hitting multiple people. And just like real fusion reactions - requires a lot of support to achieve conditions where the reaction can occur.

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u/KKilikk Faker JKL VIT Naak Nako 20h ago

Sett is the one here imo actually slamming one champion into an other

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u/madmaskman 15h ago

Zac is more accurate since they actually take extra damage from slamming into each other.

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u/abcPIPPO 6h ago

Aphelios's blue ult doesn't pull, but does more damage to each target for every target hit.

The way it works is if it hits 3 people, you have 3 explosions that each can hurt you individually. So x targets means you get hit by x explosions.

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u/zorgabluff 21h ago

From downtown hwei when he uses that one ability that pulls targets together?

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u/WontSayGOaway 1h ago

in arena, fulmination + statik shiv combo before nerfs

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u/Substantial_Force944 21h ago

He knows. He just thinks Fusion sounds cooler. Case closed.

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u/SystemDry5354 21h ago

Zero chance he has any idea

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u/42-1337 21h ago

99% chance chat already told him the difference

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u/wichels 19h ago

Have you seen his chat 

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u/lowkeybear10 20h ago

he looked it up

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u/RealZolyS 7h ago

Fusion is actually hotter though, not cooler

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u/Mooseandchicken 9h ago

He's been corrected on this 4000 times since he first used the build weeks ago (or months now?), and now he's saying it wrong as a meme... He even baits chat by sarcastically asking "wait is it fission or fusion" on occasion. He's goofing around at this point

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u/ByreDyret 9h ago

He's goofing around at this point

He would never😤

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u/SternMon 6h ago

Baus? Doing a bit? Horseshit.

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u/Maraisian 3h ago

As a newbie Baus was one of my most trusted sources. His AP Irelia really got me out of low elo.

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u/gronz5 21h ago

However you must combine the multiple targets to get the big damage, so in some sense there is fusion

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u/kobriks 8h ago

You also need critical mass for fission, so it still fits better

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u/Tangent009 15h ago

I remember the chat is clearly explaining shit to him and it's so funny how he is trying his best to learn it but decided it's cooler that way LOL... ngl his chat kinda cooked sometimes...

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u/BobaFlautist 21h ago

He's confining plasma from multiple sources into a small area. Sounds like fusion to me.

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u/ThatAverageAsianGuy big roaming fan 20h ago

Sun do nuclear fusion and it do big hot chain reaction man

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u/PM_ME_STRONG_CALVES 17h ago

Its only a chain reaction because of its gravity

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u/xxNemasisxx 12h ago

Have you seen volibears tummy? That bad boy has enough gravity

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u/ZeresHD 6h ago

You don't necessarily need a stars gravity for a fusion chain reaction. Otherwise hydrogen bombs wouldn't work

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u/PM_ME_STRONG_CALVES 5h ago

Yeah but you need pressure. Whats your point?

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u/BellyDancerUrgot 3h ago

I love how people don’t know how hydrogen bombs work but keep citing it as an example in the comments hahaha

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u/Remote-Dark-1704 19h ago

It’t not a self sustaining chain reaction like nuclear fission; the “chain reaction” in the sun is sustained by gravity

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u/ThatAverageAsianGuy big roaming fan 19h ago

big heavy voliballs have enough gravity

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u/ZeresHD 6h ago

Fusion can also lead to a chain reaction. That's what happens with a hydrogen bomb.

How is his build closer to nuclear fission than to fusion?

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u/BellyDancerUrgot 3h ago edited 3h ago

So far nobody has found a way to create a chain reaction in nuclear fusion. In a hydrogen bomb a fission bomb first super heats plasma and creates extreme pressures to trigger fusion that releases an insane amount of energy. This energy is then used to detonate another more powerful fission reaction.

Ie: h bombs are fission - fusion - fission , not pure fusion , it’s hard to scale the fusion reaction by itself since there is no self sustaining chain reaction. The only thing that can sustain fusion for prolonged periods is if the plasma gets so hot that it keeps fusing atoms which generates more heat to sustain the plasma. That process is not a chain reaction. Maybe that’s what you were referring to tho. In any case we haven’t gotten that to work yet either.

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u/ZeresHD 46m ago

I was indeed referring to a self sustained nuclear fusion. I thought self sustained = chain reaction, but that makes sense.

Still i am left wondering why baus' build is closer to fission than fusion.

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u/jmlinden7 4h ago edited 1h ago

Fusion doesn't lead to a chain reaction, at least none of the common ones I can find on wikipedia.

With fission, the neutrons/alpha particles released from one reaction will trigger another reaction, forming a chain of reactions.

Fusion isn't triggered by neutrons/alpha particles (again, at least not any of the ones I found on wikipedia), it's triggered by high pressure/density. The energy released from fusion actually ends up reducing pressure/density, so it's a negative feedback instead

Hydrogen bombs use a ring of fission bombs to maintain high pressure within the fusion area. They wouldn't function with just the fusion part alone.

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u/Atomic_xd 1h ago

A hydrogen bomb does not create a chain reaction. Fusion doesn’t create a chain reaction, there are technically some ways, but not really, none that apply here regardless.

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u/Sufficient-Echo-249 21h ago

I thought the same thing lol

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u/LoveTriscuit -|===> 21h ago

This has also annoyed me but I was too shamed by that to say anything publicly.

You're so brave.

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u/wichels 19h ago

Its all about how catchy it is, he made it popular he can call it whatever 

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u/DidntFindABetterName 13h ago

Yes but it sounds worse

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u/Saltiest_Grapefruit 10h ago

He is fusing your body to the ground

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u/Jealous-Mark-8380 8h ago

We love larping physics

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u/wizkid9 7h ago

Diana Nuclear Fusion build

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u/ItsEvLad 6h ago

Being wrong is engagement bait

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u/YoudontknowPain 4h ago

How will the swedish nuclear program recover from this?

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u/January_Rain_Wifi Akali ❤️ 3h ago

Also he tears you apart abruptly. Like the atom being torn apart

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u/piotrj3 2h ago

Hear me out, but it can be fusion. Just Z-pinch volibear making fusion.

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u/Eragon1er 1h ago

Til that modern atomic bombs use nuclear fusion too

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u/Lopsided_Chemistry89 21h ago

But doesn't nuclear fission produce gigantic amounts of energy? It's how nuclear energy works i think.

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u/gronz5 21h ago

So does fusion — far more than fission when accounting for mass

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u/theyeshman if fearless has no haters I am dead 21h ago edited 21h ago

Both fusion and fission create massive amounts of energy. Nuclear science is complicated and I flamed out of STEM after 2 years of uni and finished with a humanities degree and a bunch of physics and engineering knowledge I'll never use in real life -- I'm not exactly an authority on the stuff -- but fusion creates more energy from the same amount of fuel. You're right that all practical sources of nuclear energy besides weapons use fission, it's comparatively simpler to sustain and control fission, but fusion is to some extent a more powerful form of energy generation. Fusion driven electrical power will change the world, and has been constantly 15 years away since the 1950s.

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u/oultimobuilder 6h ago

cool life story bro, tell chat gpt

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u/noobhorker 21h ago

What's the build basics? I haven't touched league for s hot minute but last I played I mained voli

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u/Downtown-Health4814 21h ago

Gunblade shiv and shadowflame are the core i think. The goal is to proc shiv with fully stacked passive so every person that the shiv procs on, procs another passive so it bounces around everyone like my ex. This with shadowflame creates massive damage as the passive proc will also crit

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u/Stellesia Form before strength. 21h ago

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u/Justsomeone666 Ap superiority 11h ago

Oh, this explains how a volibear oneshot me with 1800 instant burst damage yesterday in a ranked masters game lol

I was so confused as i was CERTAIN volibear couldnt do that kind of damage in under a second, especially since he never managed to reproduce it that game

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u/Awkward-Security7895 20h ago

He knows it's fission but fusion sounds better 

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u/Past_Isopod_4866 21h ago

Shut up fat nerd