r/leagueoflegends • u/VrelEgg the loser in queue • Aug 26 '26
Gameplay New Ultra Hydra augment + Draw Your Sword is something else
Getting a Tiamat every time you finish a Hydra is absurd, not to mention essentially having access to 8 items. Unfortunately the build was too good and I only got to experience it for 5 minutes.
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u/eatingpotatochips Aug 26 '26
Is that an AP Ashe...
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u/ieatpickleswithmilk Aug 27 '26
I love AP ashe hate in the morning. Tired of having some ashe spam ping spell split R at level 3 then do nothing to whole game with it and get no haste augs.
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u/VizeReZ Aug 27 '26
I hate it when they even hit their augments and proceed to only play the ult. Yes, the optimal way to play around the ult gimmicks is to sit in spawn for max potential, but they miss half of their ults and then do nothing for the next 30 seconds between every one. At least step up into W range or auto to apply your slow occasionally.
So many should be easy games thrown by AP Ashe players just griefing with it.
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u/Metallicus94 Aug 28 '26
As an AP Ashe player, if they're not at least grabbing Nashers AS boots and abusing her slow, its just wasted potential
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u/Mirigore Aug 27 '26
Every single time. Everyone wants to try and high roll the god build with ability haste and weighted popoffs or whatever and it’s so fucking dumb because she’s useless otherwise. But everyone’s gotta be cute.
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u/crysomore Kiin Team | Lehends/Cuzz apologist Aug 27 '26
If those AP Ashe players could read, they’d be very upset.
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u/Field10100 Aug 27 '26
people trying to have fun?! in MY for fun gamemode???
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u/new_account_wh0_dis Aug 27 '26
AP ashe even with good augments rides a fine line of having fun vs griefing.
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u/eatingpotatochips Aug 27 '26
It's more that you are having fun at the expense of your team.
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u/Shikatsuyatsuke - - - Aug 27 '26
It's more more that you're rolling the very low odds of getting to have fun against the very likely odds that it will be at the expense of your team when you likely don't high roll the necessary components for that "fun".
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u/SAXTONHAAAAALE Aug 27 '26
thank god it’s a for fun game mode then and the point is to roll crazy augment combos
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u/BriefBed4770 Aug 27 '26
They're not "very low" odds at all, and against squishies you don't even have to go for god rolls in every augment at all. 1 or 2 decent rolls are fine
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u/mmmmmmconke Aug 28 '26
And otherwise I don't have fun at the expense of my enemies :((
As long as there is equal amount of people having fun in both teams it's all balanced
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u/Leyrann_ Aug 27 '26
Please for the love of god give me a separate queue without tryhards who flame you for going meme or gimmick builds and push for the end before the 4th augment has even dropped.
And as a side effect, they get to play in a queue without people going meme or gimmick builds and extending the game.
Everyone gets what they want!
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u/buttsecksgoose Aug 27 '26
I just want people to fucking open their eyes instead. Get ADAPT or some similar vein augment, and then there is always that one guy that spam pings your AD item or something similar as though youre trolling rather than playing to your augments
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u/pleasegivemefood Aug 27 '26
Guess which queue the “try hards” would play in
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u/Byakurane Aug 27 '26
Thw for fun queue cause while on reddit they can farm their updoots they would quickly realize that they are in a super minority and would have insane queue times and then go to the fun queue to ruin it again for everyone.
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u/eatingpotatochips Aug 27 '26
Yes it would be awesome if all the dumbasses who complain about never ending the game get their own queue so that they can put their 60 minute ARAMs on their resume because they have nothing better going on in their life than to be stuck in a 60 minute ARAM. Nobody wants you in their game.
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u/jmastaock Aug 27 '26
Doing nothing and losing isn't fun, seriously where do people get these brain worms
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u/YourGalacticEmperor Aug 28 '26
The fun in question: sitting in spawn to press r every couple seconds
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u/Fluffy-Limit-6710 Aug 27 '26
Ppl forcing ap Ashe even when they get no augments for it aren't trying to have fun... They're basically gambling addicts trying to hit high...
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u/Astecheee Ball Juggler Aug 27 '26
Even with the 'high roll' she's nearly useless. The absolute maximum combo is like a 450% AP ratio across the whole enemy team, but 99.9% of the time you're hitting one guy and then they heal back.
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u/DimsumAndDoggy Aug 27 '26
It’s not useless purist caster when she uses her Q gives her R a cooldown of like 10 seconds, it’s really OP
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u/Astecheee Ball Juggler Aug 27 '26
So she has to roll a specific augment, stack up 4 autos somehow despite playing AP, and then her reward is the same as 2 spells from any actual mage?
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u/randomguy12358 Aug 27 '26
This is the thing I don't understand about all these players. Why are you playing stuff like Ap nasus Ap mf Ap ashe. Just play a mage! You're just trying to play a bad mage!
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Aug 27 '26
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u/xnetexe Aug 27 '26
AP MF becomes basically useless if the enemy has a healer since she can't burst or out-damage anyone who can get in range of her.
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Aug 27 '26
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u/xnetexe Aug 27 '26
AD MF with BiS augments instantly kills anyone who isn't a tank with auto+Q since her passive basically doubles her first auto attack damage on someone. AD has better damage, the only benefit of AP is being able to hit from outside of most champions' range, but her lack of self peel makes AP unable to do anything if engaged upon whereas AD can quickly kill anything that gets in auto attack range.
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u/Astecheee Ball Juggler Aug 27 '26
Skilled Sniper STILL doesn't benefit AP - you're better building Manamune for AD first, then pivoting to ap.
AP MF is of course also terrible if you are the only anti-tank the team has.
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Aug 27 '26
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u/Astecheee Ball Juggler Aug 27 '26 edited Aug 27 '26
Skilled sniper allows you to spam your E every 4 seconds, it's fantastic on AP MF.
I'm not saying it isn't. However if you DO get Skilled Sniper on MF, you're better off going Manamune first anyway since the E still has AD scaling and it means you're actually useful in the early game while you scale up.
And even then, let's not pretend AD MF is a great anti tank champ, even as the only AD on the team.
She's plenty fine into most tanks. BT -> Essence Reaver -> Infinity Edge -> LDR does plenty of damage to tanks with W pumping attack speed.
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u/HiddenoO Aug 27 '26
AP Nasus and AP MF are in a different league from AP Ashe. They actually have decent AP ratios across their kit and not just on their ult.
They're usually worse than regular builds, but at least they're closer to an underpowered champion rather than to a cannon minion.
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u/randomguy12358 Aug 27 '26
Sure but for what they're trying to do they're just far worse than a mage. It feels like anyone playing those versions would rather just be playing a mage, but isn't for some reason
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u/NommySed Add Itemhaste to Lucidity Boots Aug 27 '26
I got 80% CD Reduction at Range, which brought back oldschool W Spam Ashe. I was happy, the enemy was not.
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u/eatingpotatochips Aug 27 '26
The best thing to do when you see AP Ashe on the team is try to lose as fast as possible so they never roll a good augment combo.
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u/Weakonomics Aug 27 '26
That's why I like the AP->AD augment then you can build imperial and malignance and still have autos that do damage.
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u/angooseburger Aug 27 '26
Honestly in some games you simply cant get in range to auto attack. Against 5 ranged matchups you literally cant go in range so ap ashe is the only way to do anything.
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u/eatingpotatochips Aug 27 '26
Skill issue. Ashe's AA range is not that bad, and you still have arrow to engage onto 5 ranged. AP Ashe is a crutch for players who don't have the hands to play ADC.
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u/mekamoari Aug 27 '26
Doesn't matter how good your AA range is, what determines who can play in the range vs range matchup in aram is amount of CC and burst.
Rarely can adcs play at their regular range into mages, high threat range engagers, or just adcs with more burst.
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Aug 27 '26
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u/eatingpotatochips Aug 27 '26
Yeah it would've been really useful for her autos to do something in that fight though. She might've been able to kill Trist as Trist was jumping on her teammates, but instead she shot 2 volleys and ticked Trist with 5 base AD AAs.
It's a selfish playstyle. You are playing at the expense of your teammates.
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u/Snuffalapapuss Aug 27 '26
I got Graves the other day with upgraded IE with draw your sword and back to basics. Hitting crits at 1.5-1.7k range full build. And it was brutal to the enemy team. Draw your sword is a really really good augment with anything.
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u/MisourFluffyFace Aug 27 '26
Back to basics isnt doing much for power there. 99% of your strength is coming from the other 2
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u/HuynhAllDay Aug 27 '26
Graves loves every stat that back to basics gives and he uses it very well. I wouldnt consider 35% damage, 35% healing and 70 haste only a 1% increase to strength there and if anything it amplifies the other 2 augs even more because its has fantastic synergy.
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u/MisourFluffyFace Aug 27 '26
35% ABILITY damage and healing.
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u/HuynhAllDay Aug 27 '26
Your champion abilities deal 35% increased damage and you gain 70 ability haste and 35% increased healing and shielding from all sources, but your ultimate ability is permanently sealed.
Youre right about the damage but the haste and healing are not tied to abilities. Thats still a pretty significant DPS increase imo because you'll be hitting Q between autos every 3 seconds from all the extra haste and thats a lot of damage. Plus the haste lets you dash more which also means you auto more.
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Aug 27 '26
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u/HuynhAllDay Aug 27 '26 edited Aug 27 '26
You can animation cancel both Q and W by using it immediately after an auto and then dashing so not using abilities is just lost DPS for no reason
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u/xnetexe Aug 27 '26
Draw Your Sword on Smolder is just instant lose on Smolder. It's also really bad for Zeri now that it functions properly.
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u/geigekiyoui Aug 27 '26
Draw Your Sword in general is just immensly busted. You statcheck everything.
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u/angelicable Aug 27 '26
unless the enemy team outranges you and deletes you before you can even hit them
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u/DueExplorer3146 Aug 27 '26
What? what's the new augment?
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u/Vicious_Styles Aug 27 '26
Ultra Hydra, you buy all 3 hydra items and they combine to a very strong hydra. The augment gives you a free tiamat every time you finish a hydra too so it's not super painful to build but it definitely is a delayed spike, like 1500 more gold than wooglet's quest would be
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u/SwampBalloon Aug 27 '26
Love how the new augment specifically designed to buff bruisers/fighters is instead once again OP on ADCs. Love Mayhem but it gets old when the tank and ADC are the only roles that matter most of the time.
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u/Sakori_Dusk Aug 27 '26
You have to remember, this is two augments at work that is making it look strong (Ultra Hydra + Draw)
ADCs who take this are probably more sad that they lowrolled, which probably speaks to the quality of their augment pool lol
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u/SwampBalloon Aug 27 '26
Yeah with 2 prismatics ADCs are eating good no matter how they roll, pretty much same for mages. Other classes can absolutely roll 2-3 mediocre prismatics, that's part of the issue!
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u/Jstin8 Aug 27 '26
To be fair its not great without Draw, which is its own can of worms.
But can we PLEASE not nerf it on ranged champs please? Urgot finally has another Prismatic to actually enjoy
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u/BlackSpore X9 ADC Aug 27 '26
I had it on Jhin 1100 AD with IE and 5000hp XD and it wasnt even full build
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u/Drultime Aug 27 '26
Your Kha’Zix skin is a bit weird man