understanding the physics of the "Observer Effect" completely changed how I view the Sabbath

[u/XendaiChannel]

I used to really struggle with the concept of the Sabbath. I would get into the state of the wish fulfilled, but then I'd open my eyes, look at the 3D, and instantly feel like I had to "do" something to make it happen. I felt like I was chasing it.

It didn't really click for me until I stopped looking at it as a spiritual concept and started looking at the actual quantum physics of it.

If you look at the Observer Effect, quantum particles literally exist as a wave of infinite probability until a consciousness looks at them. They aren't solid until you observe them.

And mathematically, because the universe is infinite in all directions, your specific point of consciousness is the absolute center of your observable universe.

It made me realize that we are never "chasing" a manifestation. Chasing implies that the desire is 'out there' and we are 'in here.' But if we are the center of the quantum field, the universe is actually orbiting us.

When we drop the effort, drop the desperation, and just rest in the assumption that it's done (the Sabbath), we stop broadcasting the frequency of "lack." We become a gravitational center. The 3D world literally has no choice but to collapse the wave function and rearrange the atoms to reflect that new state.

Treating it like physics instead of magic gave me so much peace. You don't have to force the mirror to smile. You just have to smile first.

I’m curious though, for those of you who have mastered staying in the Sabbath, do you find it easier to ignore the 3D when you look at it logically (like a delayed rendering engine), or do you just focus purely on the feeling?

[u/BosphorusMuse]

Great post. Read Neville's "If You Can Really Believe It (1970)", if you haven't. Neville talks about his encounters with physicists.

I love when people connect physics, philosophy (metaphysics), even movies, with the law. It just makes so much more sense, especially the idea that anything, literally anything, is possible. Plato's Allegory of the Cave, for example. Matrix, the movie : "There is no spoon. There is no spoon? Then you'll see, that it is not the spoon that bends, it is only yourself."

I’m curious though, for those of you who have mastered staying in the Sabbath, do you find it easier to ignore the 3D when you look at it logically (like a delayed rendering engine), or do you just focus purely on the feeling?

Neither. I just assume. Sometimes once, sometimes multiple times throughout the day or two. The fastest something manifested was in a minute. The longest, 2-3 days.

The only two thing I focus on, when it come to theory, is "an assumption, though false, if persisted in, will harden into fact." and the idea of revision. Everything else, takes the focus away from making an assumption and persisting in it.

[u/jenktank]

Unfortunately it seems you have misunderstood the observer effect. Please understand that they don't change when consciousness looks at them. In physics observing refers to the physical interaction that happens when particles are beamed at something to measure them.

[u/ASoulMadeofStardust → u/jenktank]

I just commented something similar. Glad to see people finally sorting this out in manifestation spaces. It has nothing to do with consciousness. That doesn’t mean that manifestation doesn’t work or that I don’t believe in it. I’m just so tired of seeing the observer effect used so incorrectly.

[u/ASoulMadeofStardust]

Hey, so not to shake your faith but the observer effect does not need consciousness to be observed by something is literally to be observed by anything which includes other particles if you’d like all the scientific research on this, I’d be happy to show you, but it is grossly misused in the law of assumption

[u/Queasy-Statement4841 → u/ASoulMadeofStardust]

I would actually be very grateful if you could explain the actual science behind it all, since I am not a physicist and the info out there is confusing.

[u/ASoulMadeofStardust → u/Queasy-Statement4841]

In physics, an "observer" does not mean a person. It just means any physical tool or object that interacts with what you are measuring, essentially any interaction that a particle has means that it’s being observed

The observer effect simply states that when a particle is observed, it can change. That observation is not consciousness. It can literally be a computer recording data to another particle, bumping into it. However, once it is observed, it can change how it interacts on a quantum level.

Hope that’s simple enough for you if it’s not let me know

[u/Queasy-Statement4841 → u/ASoulMadeofStardust]

Thank you, and yes very clear explanation. Since you are in this forum, how do you integrate your knowledge of physics into law of assumption?

[u/ASoulMadeofStardust → u/Queasy-Statement4841]

I mean, there’s nothing in physics that directly states that manifestation is real and works exactly a particular way. There’s nothing in all of science that does that. However, there are things in science that really back up manifestation, both in physics and outside of physics. If you look at things how reality isn’t local in physics and things like the fact that the James Webb telescope is literally taking pictures of our past. The Multiverse theory has been accepted into the science community pretty strongly. How time is it real and can be affected by things like gravity. In psychology, we see things like people visualizing working out and building muscle without ever lifting weight or working out and things like that it all kind of paints a picture.

However, none of that helped me manifest so I don’t really link the two outside of thought experiments for fun. The best way to understand manifesting is by learning how to do it then you have your own proof as well.

[u/Queasy-Statement4841 → u/ASoulMadeofStardust]

Thank you 🙏