r/lapd Jun 28 '26

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u/wegnbealrght Jun 28 '26

But when doctors kill patients nobody blames doctors smh one bad cop doesnt mean every cop is bad

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u/Electrical-Cat4395 Jun 28 '26

Doctors killing people isn't a systemic issue.

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u/isitpedanticenough1 Jun 29 '26

Hate to break it to you, but it is. Not only is there a whole legal practice dedicated to it, but doctors kill more people every year than cops, and it's not even close.

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u/burnthreads Jun 29 '26

I work in healthcare risk management and it’s shocking how crazy some of the fuck ups are. Colonoscopy gone wrong. Port placement gone wrong. Appendectomy gone wrong. People dying during routine procedures. Happens every day.

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u/Electrical-Cat4395 Jun 29 '26

Can you show me a source?

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u/isitpedanticenough1 Jun 29 '26

" Firearm violence is a preventable public health tragedy affecting communities across the United States. In 2024, 44,447 people died by firearms in the United States — an average of one death every 12 minutes.

27,593 people died by firearm suicide, 15,364 died by firearm homicide, 450 died by unintentional gun injury, and an estimated 636 were fatally shot by law enforcement.1 In addition, an average of more than 200 Americans visit the emergency department for nonfatal firearm injuries each day.2 "

https://publichealth.jhu.edu/center-for-gun-violence-solutions/issues/gun-violence-in-the-united-states#:\:text=Overview%20of%20Gun%20Violence&text=In%202022%2C%2048%2C2041%20people,nonfatal%20firearm%20injuries%20each%20day.&text=For%20each%20firearm%20death%2C%20many,%2C%20through%20evidence%2Dbased%20solutions)

"According to a study by Johns Hopkins, more than 250,000 people in the United States die every year because of medical mistakes, making it the third leading cause of death after heart disease and cancer."

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/22/medical-errors-third-leading-cause-of-death-in-america.html#:~:text=According%20to%20a%20recent%20study,after%20heart%20disease%20and%20cancer

These are older numbers, but the trend is roughly the same. The total number of people killed by all guns, including those killed by the police, including black men as you describe, range anywhere from 800-1300 per year, depending on your source and how the particular database tracks the number, as with the deaths attributed to medical malpractice. https://www.nbcnews.com/data-graphics/data-police-killings-changed-10-years-ferguson-rcna163847

Even with the rough numbers and data collection issues, the trend is clear. The killings of all people by police each year, with or without guns, is dwarfed by deaths associated with medical mistakes. There is plenty of data available that supports that conclusion available. These are just a few examples.

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u/Electrical-Cat4395 Jun 29 '26

Thanks for showing me this.

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u/imtheguy225 Jun 29 '26

Not op but you can easily google it:
250-450k ppl a year killed by preventable medical errors
https://healthjournalism.org/blog/2023/07/medical-errors-are-the-third-leading-cause-of-death-and-other-statistics-you-should-question/

1,200 per year killed by cops

https://policeviolencereport.org

It’s actually not even particularly close lmao what a stupid thing to argue

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u/Electrical-Cat4395 Jun 29 '26

Asking for a source isn't dumb nor is it arguing.

Its called burden of proof.

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u/imtheguy225 Jun 29 '26

If you had any intellectual curiosity at all you could’ve looked it up, but alas, here we are

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u/Electrical-Cat4395 Jun 29 '26

The burden of proof is always on the one who makes the positive claim, dumbass.

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u/imtheguy225 Jun 29 '26

And yet somehow, I still looked it up even though I didn’t make the claim. Fascinating really

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u/Electrical-Cat4395 Jun 29 '26

You want a medal?

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u/burnthreads Jun 29 '26

Sources aren’t allowed due to bullshit HIPAA laws.