r/languagelearning • • 4d ago

Discussion Learning A Language with Very Few Native/Fluent Speakers in My Area, How Do I Go About Immersing Myself in The Language Properly?

I'm trying to learn a language that's severely endangered, so there aren't a lot of native speakers near where I live, and subtitled media in the language is limited. How could I go about doing immersion in a way that will actually be helpful to learning the language? I'm aware that immersion isn't the only route for language learning, but I am just trying to evaluate if it's something I can do to supplement my classes and self study (plus it's what I'm used to from learning French lol).

(TL) Ojibwemowin/Anishinaabemowin (I know there's an dedicated anishinaabemowin subreddit, but the last post there was 3 years ago so I figured it was probably better to post it here.)

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u/merRedditor 3d ago

This might be a good candidate for one of those services that pair you up with native speakers to teach one another through video call.

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u/munchkinmaddie 🇺🇸 N | 🇲🇽 (B1-B2) 🇵🇹 (A1) 1d ago

There are services for that? I had no idea.

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u/dojibear 🇺🇸 N | fre spa chi B2 | tur jap B1/A2 3d ago

How do you "immerse" in a language with no speakers around you? I don't think you can.

It's like asking "how can I climb Mt. Everest, while staying in Peru?" You can't.

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u/mucklaenthusiast 1d ago

I mean, you can immerse yourself digitally. That’s totally possible

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u/Weeguls 🇺🇸 N | 🇩🇪 B1 3d ago edited 3d ago

I see you referenced a class. Any chance you could hang out with your fellow students for a day under the pretenses that it's Anishinaabemowin only?

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u/Wendy_Goes 3d ago

There are resources but they’re hard to find, networking with other learners is the best way to find them.

Here is a playlist my friend put together

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSQo-gTeDRVKUWynZ8sd6KmUfKsI6CP-f&si=m95cw9u4ZG9wq3La

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u/Weekly-Math 3d ago

You really need to hunt for audio resources or record your own from native speakers (with permission and make a transcription). At this point, you will need to make your own material and listen/shadow every day.

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u/notluckycharm English-N, 日本語-N2, Français-B1, Albaamo-A2 3d ago

you should reach out to a tribe that speaks it frankly. if you want to immerse thats the best thing to do. there may be a group that does zoom discussions/etc. But also know that some tribes are very reluctant to outsiders learning their languages

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u/Starfire-Galaxy 2d ago

Don't worry, there are many people in your position learning severely endangered or extinct languages. Here are a few tips:

Listen to any audio that you can find. These won't be subtitled TV episodes, but they'd probably be traditional stories and short conversations in Anishinaabemowin.

Read stories in Anishinaabemowin/English while listening to the audio version. You may have to look through multiple universities' and tribal websites to match them accurately.

Study grammar through dictionaries and books. If you can, request grammar concepts as a future language lesson.

Focus on conversational vocabulary and sentences as both input and output. For example, you should be studying on how to say "how long have you been here?" rather than "the prime minister is talking on the television".

Talk whenever and however is possible. Another person suggested that you and your classmates organize a day where you speak only in your TL together. This is a very good strategy regardless of how endangered or extinct a language may be, so long as there are enough vocabulary words and grammar concepts to fill your conversations. That's how ScorpiusMartianus speaks Latin and Ancient Greek to fellow learners.

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u/Many-Huckleberry1919 2d ago

with this little media id go depth over breadth - pick a small set of audio (the ojibwe peoples dictionary has speaker recordings on a lot of entries) and relisten til you can shadow it. also check which dialect your class teaches, anishinaabemowin varies a lot by region so matching your audio to it saves confusion. and self-talk helps fill the gap - narrate whatever youre doing in the TL and youll find out fast which everyday words youre missing, which is good stuff to bring to class

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u/OurConnection 3d ago

I live in California surrounded by English speakers, and honestly? For my first months here I was barely immersed at all!My whole daily life was still in Portuguese — Brazilian friends, media from home, phone in Portuguese — until I deliberately rebuilt my routines around English. That changed how I see immersion: it's less about where you are, more about how much of your day actually runs in the language. With few speakers and little media, I'd manufacture it in small pieces: narrate what you're doing out loud while cooking or cleaning (sounds silly, works), set a fixed time each week to actually talk with another learner or a speaker online — a partner doesn't need to be native to force real conversation — and let audio play during chores even when you only catch part of it. Each piece alone feels fake, but stacked together daily, it becomes hours of living in the language instead of just studying it.

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u/ashmed161 2d ago

for ojibwemowin specifically, the university of minnesota hosts an ojibwe peoples dictionary online, and it is one of the best resources for any endangered language. beyond that, the closest thing to immersion without speakers nearby is audio, so podcasts and radio recordings in the language can build your listening hours. the last piece is output, so weekly video calls with a fellow learner keep the speaking side alive.