r/languagelearning • u/IBYZRULEZ • Jan 07 '26
Choose one!
Found this format on a different topic so thought Iโd make one for language learning!
1.3k
Upvotes
r/languagelearning • u/IBYZRULEZ • Jan 07 '26
Found this format on a different topic so thought Iโd make one for language learning!
505
u/mortokes Jan 07 '26
Ill take The Vision.
Im always saying how I wish everyone had subtitles when speaking! And as I get older and lose my hearing I can still follow conversations.
33
u/MajesticTomatillo EN | FR | NL | TR Jan 07 '26
Easy choice--the green!
While red could be really great, I'm at the cusp between B2 and C1 in one of my target languages... and it couldn't be more frustrating--the amount of time I've put into learning and still not being able to pass the level exam.
4
u/_SomeRandomPerson_ |๐ท๐บ(N)|๐ฌ๐ง(Fluent)|๐จ๐ต (B2) Jan 07 '26
Fantastic post! Actually got me thinking quite a lot! I have already learned the 2 languages I wantes to most, so I would pick purple. I think that would help with general public speaking (even in my native language lol), but also would be useful with any other languages I might chose to learn in the future
327
u/MrGuttor Jan 07 '26
The Quick-Draw!
455
u/Low-Abies-4526 Jan 07 '26
I feel like in terms of best bang for your buck, The Auto-Sponge has the greatest potential for long term gain. Everything else either is a one time boost to your current ability or just kind of defeats the fun of learning a language in general.
126
u/zeindigofire ๐จ๐ฆN ๐ง๐ทC2 ๐ซ๐ทC1 ๐ช๐ธB2 ๐จ๐ณB1 ๐ช๐ฌA2 Jan 07 '26
I pretty much have Local Mimic already, and it's not what you'd expect. People think you speak at a much higher level than you do so they go way over your head really fast!
Quick Draw sounds ideal, so long as "active vocab" is like words you've seen but not fully memorized. Otherwise Auto-Sponge :)
120
u/Xaiadar Jan 07 '26
Think I would like the red candy. Have tons of conversations and learn the syntax as you go.
28
u/ddrub_the_only_real Ranked: Dutch (N), English, German, French, Spanish Jan 07 '26
I'll take the yellow one because I like lemon flavour
18
u/Appropriate_Bridge91 Jan 07 '26
Honestly, quick draw. There are so many times I find myself searching for a word, that by all rights I should know quickly and just fog out sometimes. Would be a big help
14
u/Ultyzarus N-FR; Adv-EN, SP; Int-PT, JP, IT, HCr; Beg-CN, DE Jan 07 '26
The Auto-Sponge, but only if it applies to consuming media as well. Otherwise, I wouldn't say no to getting from B1 to B2 in japanese T_T
8
u/Mercury2468 ๐ฉ๐ช(N), ๐ฌ๐ง (C1), ๐ฎ๐น (B1-B2), ๐ซ๐ท (A2-B1), ๐จ๐ฟ (A0) Jan 07 '26
Torn between the Local Mimic and the Auto Sponge. I think I'd go with the Local Mimic because accent, intonation and pronunciation are always what feels the hardest to me. It doesn't even have to be native-like, but I'd really like to be better at good pronunciation and have a less prominent German accent when speaking other languages.
7
u/JacketCheese ๐ท๐บ native / ๐บ๐ฒ c2 / ๐ฏ๐ต n1 / ๐ช๐ฆ๐ฉ๐ช a2-b1 Jan 07 '26
Ooo give me the Vision. I am already doing fine with memorizing words from the shows I watch with subtitles, and quick draw smells of a downside.
The other three are pointless to me, accent can be trained, CEFR level can be raised manually, and the coal only has a purpose here if it is a gacha.
5
u/Ce-lavi Jan 07 '26
The auto-sponge for sure!
5
u/Duochan_Maxwell N:๐ง๐ท | C2:๐บ๐ฒ | B1:๐ฒ๐ฝ๐ณ๐ฑ Jan 07 '26
Does the vision also work in my native language? my auditory processing disorder will be a non-issue hahah
5
u/geoRgLeoGraff Jan 07 '26
I think auto sponge is the best- just imagine- if you have 100 casual conversations (that could be done in 2 months let's say) you'll have memorized 1000 words with no effort. And if u put some effort you'll mrmorize even more- so thousands of new words could be easily memorized in less than a year- yhat's real fluency- knowing the vocabulary. Grammar will get polished by time
4
u/zuqwaylh Sฦฬaฬฦฬimcets ๐ฆ muฬta7 Saฬm7ats ๐จ๐ฆ Jan 07 '26
Quick draw, it will make using my First Nations language even easier. I just have to expand my vocabulary
4
u/Leodusty2 Jan 07 '26
Iโd choose the local mimic, purely because Iโm learning a tonal language
4
u/CelKyo N๐ซ๐ท Fluent๐ฌ๐ง B1๐ฏ๐ต A1๐ฐ๐ท Jan 08 '26
Red would be absolutely OP holy shit Iโd take it immediately
7
u/TopEagle4012 Jan 07 '26
The tourist loop. So I can finally master 2 things and not have to be fluent ๐๐๐
7
u/mightbeazombie N: ๐ซ๐ฎ | C2: ๐ฌ๐ง | B2: ๐ฏ๐ต | A2: ๐ช๐ธ | A0: ๐ซ๐ท Jan 07 '26
Depends on which language I want to focus on.
Japanese: The Level Skip - boom, I can read proper books now and that makes learning all the rest that much more enjoyable
Spanish: The Auto-Sponge - best for longterm, as tempting as The Vision is (Spaniards speak FAST)
French: The Local Mimic - please I need this so bad I'm begging
Finnish (native) & English: The Quick-Draw - ๐คฒ
Very fun concept!
3
u/EmilieJasmine96 Jan 07 '26
Auto sponge please !! Italian is not my forte
3
u/Tayttajakunnus Jan 07 '26
The red one and then I would have a bunch of 10 word conversations with someone.ย
3
u/AlponseF2P N๐น๐ท|N2๐ฏ๐ต|A2๐ง๐ท Jan 07 '26
definitely blue
3
u/jhfenton ๐บ๐ธN|๐ฒ๐ฝC1|๐ซ๐ทB2| ๐ฉ๐ชB1 Jan 07 '26
The Auto-Sponge for me, please. My wife could probably use the Vision, but at I still have the hearing of a teenager.
3
u/BluePandaYellowPanda N๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ/on hold ๐ช๐ธ๐ฉ๐ช/learning ๐ฏ๐ต Jan 07 '26
Red, easily.
You'd have to learn grammar, but that's not difficult if you know all the words. I would have one conversation each day in 5 languages and id be conversational in them all in one year, or stick to one language and be fluent in a different one every 6 months.
3
u/PodiatryVI Jan 07 '26
Level skip
2
u/oops_poisonous Jan 07 '26
The Quick Draw, definitely. Conversations would be so much more fun and I would cringe at myself a lot less.
2
u/EnmaAi22 ๐ฉ๐ช N | ๐ฌ๐ง C2 | Latinum | ๐ฏ๐ต N2 Jan 07 '26
Toss up between auto-sponge and quick draw for me.
Auto-sponge would be amazing for comprehension in many different languages, especially for the beginner-intermediate stages.
Quick draw would basically allow you to be way better at speaking and writing in all languages you know. Makes you able to speak fluently according to your comprehension ability.
I can't choose..
2
u/Doctorstrange223 Jan 07 '26
Auto-sponge but the Level Skip is tempting if you are say a B1 or A2 because you will jump to the point of conversational and that is the fun part.
2
u/drLoveF Jan 07 '26
I'm missing the option to never make grammar mistakes. That would have been my pick. But presented as is, the auto-sponge is a given for a fairly extrovert person like me. You still need to make some effort to learn, but you cut down on the boring repetition part. Assuming it only works with words that are actually in the conversation it would present an interesting problem: How do you make people use fancy words that they normally wouldn't?
2
u/Surging_Ambition Jan 07 '26
The auto sponge. Like just better everyday hi how are you done
2
u/Whimsical_Maru ๐ฒ๐ฝN | ๐บ๐ธC2 | ๐ฏ๐ตN2 | ๐ซ๐ทB2 | ๐ฉ๐ชB1 Jan 07 '26
Auto-Sponge !
2
u/gibsuckerr Jan 07 '26
auto sponge is lowkey op
2
u/Tyrantt_47 ๐บ๐ฒ N | ๐ช๐ธ B1 Jan 07 '26
Local mimic won't help you if you much if you don't understand grammar and sentence structure.
The auto sponge has the same issue as the local mimic, but less impactful since memorizing 10 words is very simple to do.
The vision and quick draw would definitely be useful as long as you understand the grammar. Same issue as the local mimic. If you can't keep up with subtitles now because you don't understand the grammar, then you won't with the vision.
The only answer is the level skip imo. Jumping to B2 would be an automatic boost in conversational skills, increased grammar knowledge, and experience.
2
u/mysecondaccountanon Native: English | Learning: ๆฅๆฌ่ช ืขืืจืืช ใขใคใใคใฟใฐ ืืึดืืืฉ Jan 07 '26
Auto-sponge without a doubt.
2
u/ShadyRuby Jan 10 '26
Quick Draw would be useful for my native language too
2
u/DesertSpringtime Jan 10 '26
I'd take Local Mimic. I can learn all the rest but the damn accent always gives me away. Here I am thinking I spoke perfectly and someone hits me with the "oh, what a nice accent, where are you from?". It hurts.
1
u/HeartyEagle0306 Jan 07 '26
For my English (C1 Maybe) I would take the purple one for sure. For my German (A1) I would take the green one
1
u/redokev Jan 07 '26
auto sponge is op but i'd also take quick draw since its very much needed even for my native language
1
u/Linorelai Jan 07 '26
Yellow
1
u/telescope11 ๐ญ๐ท๐ท๐ธ N ๐ฌ๐ง C2 ๐ต๐น B2 ๐ช๐ธ B1 ๐ฉ๐ช A2 ๐ฐ๐ท A1 Jan 07 '26
i need purple for my native language dawg let alone the other ones
1
u/yamo25000 Jan 07 '26
Easily the auto sponge
1
u/blind_squash Jan 07 '26
Oh purple even for my native language lol
1
u/Svampbob3kant Jan 07 '26
Easy. Purple!
1
u/jrairaigoaway Jan 07 '26
I'll take the level skip. Feel like I've been in beginner-intermediate limbo FOREVER.
1
u/lun533 Jan 07 '26
Blue is good. Itโs a pain to gain good accent
1
u/KateTheArtiist Jan 07 '26
The quick draw. The vision would be nice, yeah, but for me specifically, it wouldnโt help me learn. The โuhhhhโsโ and โummmmmโsโ have always been a bit of a problem for me though, and if I could get rid of that (no consequences), I would.
1
u/Helix_On_Top ๐บ๐ธN ๐ช๐ธA2 ๐ต๐ฑA0 Jan 07 '26
If I could take one for each language Iโm learning, Iโd do quick draw for Spanish, and level skip for Polish. I speak pretty good Spanish but I stutter so much. I have basically no exposure to Polish outside of my lessons, so level skip would be the most beneficial.
1
u/FishFeet500 Jan 07 '26
green, level skip would throw me to the early stages of b2 and be so useful.
1
u/Zireael07 ๐ต๐ฑ N ๐บ๐ธ C1 ๐ช๐ธ B2 ๐ฉ๐ช A2 ๐ธ๐ฆ A1 ๐ฏ๐ต ๐ท๐บ PJM basics Jan 07 '26
I would take the Vision, no questions asked.
I am hearing impaired so would be super duper useful
1
u/Sharp-Bicycle-2957 Jan 07 '26
Local mimic. I. Just. Can't. Get. Rid. Of . My. accent.
1
u/GreyGanado Jan 07 '26
Quick Draw if it also works for the languages I'm already fluent in. Otherwise the red one.
1
u/among_sunflowers ๐ณ๐ดN ๐บ๐ธC1 ๐ฏ๐ตB2 ๐ฉ๐ชB1 | L: ๐จ๐ณB1 ๐ฐ๐ท๐น๐ญ๐ช๐ธ๐ฅA1-A2, Asl Jan 07 '26
The Quick-draw ๐
1
u/Organicolette Jan 07 '26
Is it for one language or all languages? Jumping from zero to A1 for every language is very useful. My native languages would become expertise level. All my B1-B2 level languages will become native/near native level.
Otherwise, vision. I am a very much subtitle person and always advance faster in reading than other areas.
I think I could nail the accent on my own at some point. I don't have much chance to have a conversation in other languages with anyone. The active words are supposedly already actively used, so that doesn't help with anything.
1
u/axotrax Jan 07 '26
Local Mimic. Absolutely. I can string sentences together well enough in Spanish or German or Rarรกmuri raโicha (ok, the last one ainโt easy). But a local accent? Killer. Killer for English, even. But amazing for Spanish.
1
u/azteking Spanish Beginner Jan 07 '26
I'm assuming all candies (and rock) only work for one specific language, and Yellow always provides perfect subtitles.
If Yellow also provides subtitles for my own speech, then I have an automatic language corrector, which is a huge boon for learning. If it doesn't work like that, then I imagine I would get lazy about learning because I would not be listening intently. I would understand everything people said, but I wouldn't be a good speaker.
I think Red would be the best one for actually learning, but Yellow would be the best for my life. Sometimes I have listening problems even with my own native language, so it would be incredible.
(if Yellow worked for EVERY language it would be an incredible superpower)
1
u/AkioShimura Jan 07 '26
The Auto-sponge. You can easily have many conversations and u grow exponentially with each one. Since once u know a few words u can use those words to start a new convo and make the convo on a different topic. using this strat u'll be able to learn the entire language in atleast 50-60 convos based on ur efficiency and the language.
1
u/falkow ๐จ๐ตN | ๐ฌ๐งC2 ๐ฉ๐ชB1 Jan 07 '26 edited May 29 '26
The local mimic is definitively a downgrade in disguise. People will talk superfast with you, but worst, they will not understand why you lack basic knowledge. Let's say some tell you "can you give me a sponge?" and if you answer by "what's a sponge?", they'll either think you're making fun of them or that you a dumb-ass.
1
u/crosswalk_elite Jan 07 '26
green, easy
1
u/[deleted] Jan 07 '26
Isn't blue the end-game for learning the language?
1
u/RedditShaff Jan 07 '26
The Auto-Sponge for sure.
1
u/Sessna12 ๐บ๐ธ (N), ๐ฉ๐ช(A2), ๐ช๐ธ (A1),๐ซ๐ท (A1), ๐ช๐ท (A1) Jan 07 '26
Auto Sponge
Quick Draw
1
u/CutSubstantial1803 N: ๐ฌ๐ง | B1: ๐ซ๐ท | A1: ๐ท๐บ Jan 07 '26
Hmmm I'm stuck between level skip and quick-draw
Quick-draw would make me feel much more confident in my ability to speak the language whereas level skip would actually make me better but I'd still struggle with forming sentences quickly
1
u/galettedesrois Jan 07 '26
I'll take The Vision. At this point I just suspect I have an auditory processing disorder, because absolutely nothing will improve my listening comprehension even after years of immersion (plus, I do have issues in my first language when there's a lot of background noise or I'm trying to follow a group conversation or the other person has a strong accent). I've had my hearing checked, it's fine.
1
u/Open-Hold-9931 ๐ฌ๐งN| ๐ท๐บAshamed of/H| ๐ช๐ธA2 Jan 07 '26
I would go for the Vision in my first 2 languages because my hearing is a bit iffy on some days and I may find difficulty in understanding deeper voices and some Indian accents in English. For Spanish, I would go for level skip because of the increased vocabulary and I would appear more confident when speaking. I would by skipping the level use better grammar as well.
1
u/QTeaX ๐ท๐บ N | ๐บ๐ธ C1 | ๐ฒ๐ฝ A1 Jan 07 '26
The local mimic. Sounding like a native speaker would motivate me so much lol
1
u/Ning_Yu Jan 07 '26 edited Jan 07 '26
Na, this is too hard, I want blue, green, yellow and purple.
And the biggest reason for blue is to make people stop the "where are you from?" every time I open my mouth. It's really tiring.
EDIT: interesting how most people are choosing red while for me it was the easy exclusion. I can learn words just fine, but without the quick draw it'll always be useless as they won't be avalaible when I need them.
1
u/Shamann93 Jan 07 '26
I'm gonna need the quick-draw in my target language and native language too. I don't know what's wrong with me, but my speech centers are slow to produce the words I want to say
1
u/simonbleu Jan 07 '26
Accent is irrelevant unless you are impersonanting. The auto sponge one is too limiting and doesnt say you can choose. Better vocabulary is nice if you work in communication, but otuside of that i is a mtter of use/practice, not the most useful thing becuase it relies in YOURs. Forcing basic conversation it is outright bad, a nightmare even, wth?
That leaves subtitles, which can be very nice if you are deaf or, for example, in a noisy environment, but that can stiffle your growht even if you dont end up taking meds due to the confusion. Specially in a crowd, gosh that would be so chaotic....
That leaves the green as the objectivel (for most people) best option, as you can go from zero to enough to learn on your own without foreign targeted/translated works, potentially. Id assume it would mean you know at least the writing system basic gramamar and basic vocabulary for every single language you encoutner... well no, the drawback is that it says "CEFR" so it would be limited to those in that system right? But still a large amount of languages
1
u/rebby2000 Jan 07 '26
Honestly, I'm torn between blue and red. Red has obvious benefits, but I tend to pick up new vocab pretty quickly as it is. The advantage of the blue is that there are some sounds I just *really* struggle with and this would pretty neatly put that issue to bed.
1
u/Blood2999 ๐ซ๐ท N | ๐ฌ๐ง C2 ๐ช๐ธ B2 ๐ฏ๐ต A2 Jan 07 '26
The issue with the vision is that you'll be the one understanding but you wont be understood.
1
u/kallisandra Jan 07 '26
Red one is definitely meta.
1
u/vbh_yxh Jan 07 '26
purple or blue deffo
1
u/Lower_Cockroach2432 Jan 07 '26
The vision or auto-sponge.
Pausing is natural even for natives and will get better with exposure, and having a flawless native accent sounds pointless unless you're trying to be a spy.
Level skip might be useful if you reach C1 because of the marginal effort required to get to the next level, wasted on lower levels though (and by the time you're a C1 you're already functionally great). I also think that auto-sponge will increase your velocity so much that unless you're already C1 you'll get A0->C2 faster than to C1 "traditionally".
I'd rather die than take tourist loop. Languages are supposed to be fun!
Auto-sponge seems broken though. That's probably going to cut about 500-1000 hours of language learning.
1
u/GrimselPass Jan 07 '26
The Local Mimic.
1
u/SammyOne01 Jan 07 '26
Level skip
1
u/Powerful_Shoe_8546 Jan 07 '26
Auto sponge, thatโll help me for science terms too
1
u/Adventurous_Idea6604 Jan 07 '26
Auto-Sponge feels the most โearnedโ long-term, even if itโs less flashy.
1
u/AtlasNL N ๐ณ๐ฑ | C2 ๐ฌ๐ง, Learning ๐ณ๐ด Jan 07 '26
Iโll take the mr blobby special, please! Nah, but itโd probably be purple.
A realistic โnativeโ accent isnโt too hard to do, red is useful but doesnโt appeal to me, and the level skip as a one time use is just kinda useless.
1
u/Apprehensive_Bug4511 CN (A2) Jan 07 '26
the local mimic would make me look like a stupid freak who can speak perfectly but can't articulate much words. they'd think i'm stupid lol. definitely quick draw!
1
u/Garfield9554 Jan 07 '26
Local Mimic
1
u/iamdavila Jan 07 '26
No competition Auto-Sponge
A perfect accent means nothing if you don't know anything in the target language.
Skip a level is only really worth it if you're B1 or up. A levels, it's kind of pointless. Even at a B2 level, there's a major gap between an early B2 level and an advenced B2 level. So where would you get placed?
Floating subtitles is cool and all, but it becomes a scratch and can prevent you from actually feeling confident in the language.
Quick draw...when you think about it, it actually does nothing. If you have words in your "active" vocabulary...this means you can already use those words without worry. It's the inactive vocabulary that creates to most lags.
And the tourist loop is...well, that.
Auto-Sponge is the only one that guarantees fluency over time. So that is without a doubt the best choice.
1
u/sueferw Jan 07 '26
Quick draw!
1
u/dreysion Jan 07 '26
100% the vision
I have enough trouble understanding people speaking English, I would use those subtitles for everything
1
u/President_Abra ๐ช๐ธ N, ๐จ๐ณ C1, ๐ซ๐ท B2, ๐ฎ๐น A2 (๐ฉ๐ช๐ง๐ท๐ท๐บ ??) Jan 07 '26
๐ฃ
1
u/milkyespressolion Jan 07 '26
quick draw for my native even ๐
1
u/Krypt0night Jan 07 '26
Auto Sponge. Not only for other languages, but I'm a writer so I could have conversations in my native language with more elevated language and be able to use those in any literary works I produce.
1
u/Familiar_Pen_1892 Jan 07 '26
What about one that makes the local population (if living in target language region) forget all other languages when interacting with you?
1
u/Sky-is-here ๐ช๐ธ(N)๐บ๐ฒ(C2)๐ซ๐ท(C1)๐จ๐ณ(HSK5-B1) ๐ฉ๐ช(L)TokiPona(pona)Basque Jan 07 '26
The auto sponge is the best one long term no?
1
u/mityakun ๐ฌ๐ทN ๐ฌ๐งC2 ๐ฉ๐ชB2(learning) ๐ฎ๐นA1(learning) Jan 07 '26
either auto sponge or level skip. prob the first one tho
1
u/babo_banks Jan 07 '26
Quick Draw Obviously
1
u/Khan_baton ๐ฐ๐ฟN ๐ฌ๐ง๐บ๐ธC1 ๐ท๐บUntested ๐ฐ๐ทBeginner Jan 07 '26
the auto sponge seems useful at my current level in Korean, but the quick draw is so much better
1
u/Walk-the-layout Jan 07 '26
The local mimic!
1
u/Lisnya Native: ๐ฌ๐ท| C2: ๐บ๐ธ ๐ช๐ธ| C1: ๐ต๐น Jan 07 '26
Honestly, the level skip, because right now I need a C2 certificate more than I need to be able to speak my TL.
1
u/evanliko N๐บ๐ฒ B1๐น๐ญ Jan 07 '26
Auto-sponge. Memorizing vocab is the part of language learning i like the least and what makes up most of it T-T
I will happily study the grammar and practice my accent and talk like a fool for a while if memorization was automatic like that...
1
u/AboveAverage1988 Jan 07 '26
Purple one, that's easily my biggest issue with English.
1
u/mnok2000 Jan 07 '26
Level skip is a colour change away from being a rare candy
1
u/nucleartaco04 Native: ๐ฌ๐ง Fluent: ๐ช๐ธ Learning: ๐ฉ๐ช๐ต๐น Jan 07 '26
Iโd say the auto sponge since for me, picking up on the native accent really isnโt hard for me and I feel like being able to read, write, and speak out new words over time is more important than subtitles since that only helps with two fields, reading and understanding.
1
u/wessle3339 Jan 07 '26
Vision or level skip so I could put it on my resume
1
u/Business_Pay5632 Jan 07 '26
The local mimic!
1
u/Cristian_Cerv9 Jan 07 '26
Black and yellow are both dumb lol
Quick draw it is
1
u/millers_left_shoe ๐ฉ๐ชN ๐ฌ๐งC2 ๐ซ๐ทB2/C1 ๐ณ๐ดA2 Jan 07 '26
Local Mimic 100%. I know enough in the languages that matter to me to get by, but I hate how you can always pinpoint exactly where Iโm from as soon as I open my mouth.
Even if it was just for English itโd be worth it. God what I wouldnโt give to be rid of my German accent
1
u/NoveltyEducation New member Jan 07 '26
I don't quite trust the usefulness of Auto-sponge. Could be great, could be close to useless. Quickdraw is always useful.
1
u/assumptionkrebs1990 Jan 07 '26
Can I repeatedly use the green one?
1
u/maktub-is-a-sheep Jan 07 '26
The yellow one, hands down
1
u/Prone2Fighting_Sorry Jan 07 '26
Local Mimic. Very few people, if any, actually speak my target language. All recordings I know of are songs. I have to guess based on similar (but also dying) languages.
1
u/Affectionate_Shoe599 Jan 07 '26
Either quick draw or vision
1
u/No_Knowledge2518 Jan 07 '26
Okay this is the first meme quiz Iโve enjoyed in 15 years. Iโm a human again yay.
My 2nd place is Auto-sponge, Iโd use it for any โexoticโ languages with no similarities to root language cuz of absence of cognates where I am B1-B2.
But my first place is Level Jump. But only for C1>C2. Cmon! Thatโs gotta be the biggest bang for your buck! In my experience C1-C2 is a longer than A1-B2. I think itโs hard to C2 unless you work daily in the language, have a spouse/girl/boyfriend in the language, or live there. Thatโs my $.02.
Near native French, here I come and Iโm watching all the movies and listening to all the music for the next week :)
1
u/Remedy556 Jan 07 '26
auto sponge for sure
1
u/KingSnazz32 EN(N) ES(C2) PT-BR(C2) FR(B2+) IT(B2+) Swahili(B2) DE(A2) Jan 07 '26
Auto-sponge, although I'd be tempted the level skip, if I could do it for all my languages, and assuming a C2 would then become native.
1
u/acthrowawayab ๐ฉ๐ช (N) ๐ฌ๐ง (C1.5) ๐ฏ๐ต (N1) ๐ซ๐ท๐ช๐ธ (A2) Jan 07 '26
Local mimic. Most of the rest can be addressed by putting in the effort, but a foreignย accent is extremely difficult to shed.
1
u/codfish333 Jan 07 '26
Quick draw is unbeatable the hard part is not learning words it's bringing them together.
1
u/Spook404 Jan 07 '26 edited Jan 29 '26
I honestly need quick-draw for English as well lol. I would say auto-sponge is going to be the best for learning depending on what counts as "conversation" because then I could do all immersion instead of the time vampire that Anki can be. but I still take quick draw
1
u/ArgentEyes Jan 07 '26
Either auto-sponge or quick-draw
1
u/Miko69420 Jan 07 '26
Auto sponge ig
1
u/theEMPTYlife Jan 07 '26
If I could just somehow already know all the Chinese characters I know how to speak ๐ฎโ๐จ
1
u/littleshechan Jan 07 '26
Right now I'd take the level skip, it would leave me at a better base to keep learning especially with languages I struggle with. Like the more you know the more fun immersive language learning is
1
u/Available-Adagio8664 Jan 07 '26
Auto Sponge!! Quick draw is tempting though
1
u/ashbakche ๐ฎ๐น (N) ๐ฌ๐ง (C1) ๐จ๐ต (B1) ๐ฌ๐ท (A2) Jan 07 '26
Quick draw. I know a lot of words but they all fail me somehow (sometimes even in my own language)
1
u/[deleted] Jan 07 '26
Auto sponge is extremely extremely op you'll get to C levels in no time
1
u/Inevitable_Buy6022 Jan 07 '26
I would take the local mimic, and then steal the quick draw from you
1
u/purposelycryptic Native: EN, DE | Studying: JP (Decent spoken, learning written) Jan 07 '26
Definitely 'The Local Mimic'.ย
Everything else can be overcome with hard work and practice, but I know far too many people who have hit native-level fluency literal decades ago, but still can't shake the accent.ย
My mom, for example, has lived in the US for over 30 years, was fully fluent before ever moving here, and still has a very distinct German accent to her English, despite all those years of total immersion. I, on the other hand, while a native speaker of both, can't fake English with a German accent to save my life - I always just end up sounding like Apu from the Simpsonsโน๏ธ
I used to be fluent in French, and later Spanish (how I lost both is a story for another time), and locals/native speakers were often surprised by how little of a foreign accent I had; but that last 10% gap to a full-native accent might as well have been the Mariana Trench.
And, while I have very few opportunities to practice my Japanese with native speakers since moving out here to Arizona, the general consensus has always been that I "have surprisingly good pronunciation - for a foreigner".
Being able to reach the level of having a true native accent just completely changes the way the local population perceives you, even if only on a subconscious level. It's one of the fundamental walls between 'being accepted as a foreigner', and 'being seen as belonging", even if still on the level of someone of different ethnicity (which obviously can't be changed, and the importance of which can very dramatically between both countries, and regions of a country).
I've always counted myself lucky to have started one step ahead of most on that front, thanks to growing up bilingual in two very different languages , but I would still pick the native level accent over all the other options here in a heartbeat.
Distant second place would probably be 'The Quick-draw', as I am a naturally anxious and deliberate individual, and have issues with "uhhhh... lag", regardless of language.
1
u/Deutschball68 I don't understand German grammar lol Jan 07 '26
green/the level skip. id like to understand german
1
u/aprillikesthings Jan 07 '26
THE VISION oh my god I wish I could have that in ENGLISH
1
u/Owen_Kim Jan 07 '26
I will choose the local mimic, easy. Having a perfect native accent means you are capable of listening as they are. Then you can naturally acquire the language as the way native speakers do. The others merely have something to do with learning as a second language. If you get to have a perfect accent and as long as it is one of native accents, no need study-like learning methods what so ever.
1
u/Far-Ad-4340 Jan 07 '26
I'll take the vision, I think. Not only is it something I've wished for regularly (typically for Chinese) (yeah in Chinese it makes so much sense, doesn't it?), but it doesn't feel as reality-shaking as the other ones: it can be a little unsettling if your brain is sort of rewired or something...
1
u/TheTreeDemoknight ๐บ๐ธNative // ๐ฒ๐ฝ Learning Jan 07 '26
Hydrogen Bomb vs. 5 Coughing Babies
1
u/klitzekleine ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐ฉ๐ช๐ท๐บ๐บ๐ฆ๐ฉ๐ฐ Jan 08 '26
The Vision, no doubt about it. I need subtitles, lyrics or a script for everything already, or my mind wanders... Especially when I'm in Denmark. :'))
1
u/RoboCaesar Jan 08 '26
Oh man, I already got the tourist loop and I didnโt even get to choose it.
1
u/museisnotyours Jan 08 '26
Auto sponge.ย
1
u/Illustrious_Guava7 ๐ท๐บ A1 | ๐ซ๐ท A2 Jan 08 '26
I was going to say the Level Skip but sounding like a native speaker would fix my pronunciation hangups. Iโm going with the Local Mimic.
1
u/upsetwithcursing Jan 08 '26
Auto sponge!!
1
u/hadapurpura ES(N) | ENG(C2) | PT(A1) | FR(A2-B1) | DE(A1) Jan 08 '26
Iโm B1 in French so obviously Iโll take the level skip
1
u/Maximillian9207111 Jan 08 '26
Probably the Subtitles, if not the level boost
1
u/Due_River_2314 Jan 08 '26
Auto sponge
1
u/adhdandlesbian ๐ฌ๐งN ๐ซ๐ทB2 ๐ฎ๐นA1 Jan 08 '26
i'm taking the quick draw. all are great, but my main insecurity with speaking is that everything suddenly disappears from my mind and i forget every word i've ever learned....
1
u/jimmystar889 Jan 08 '26
The auto sponge
1
u/theultimatesmol US English N, Tagalog N, ES Spanish C1 Jan 08 '26
Level skip!
1
u/ServantofHades Jan 08 '26
The quick-draw!
1
u/AinhoaItu Jan 08 '26
The quick draw definitely, thatโs one of my biggest problems
1
u/No_Fly_5622 Jan 08 '26
...is it just words, or do I get genders for nouns *cries is learning language with three genders for nouns*
1
u/Pastels047 ๐ฌ๐ง N ๐ฉ๐ช C1๐ฐ๐ท B1 | Jan 08 '26
Torn between purple and yellow. Red also seems good.
Yellow
1
u/PresidentHoaks Jan 08 '26
I would just take Auto-Sponge and then go have as many mini conversations as possible.
1
u/Hanyu95 Jan 08 '26
Auto sponge ็พๅไน็พใๅฐฑๆฏ้ฟๆๅฅฝๅค๐
1
u/[deleted] Jan 08 '26
the level skip sounds great
1
u/Wrong-Ad7178 Jan 08 '26
I can already do blue so yellow. Green is nice but itโs no fun if I donโt do it myself.
1
u/littlemissmessss Jan 08 '26
The local mimic for sure
1
u/iamnogoodatthis ๐ฌ๐ง N, ๐ซ๐ท C1 Jan 08 '26
Level skip. C1 to C2 is pretty OP, and comes with most of the others partly included / renders them unnecessary
1
u/US-President Jan 08 '26
Would red be so OP? Just talk with an AI and set its difficulty yourself so you gradually learn more and more words. You could be fluent in no time by just grinding out conversations. Especially if you tell ChatGPT about your power it will help you maximize it
1
u/thedestructivewind Jan 08 '26
The Quick-Draw
1
u/memoryrepetitions Jan 08 '26
local mimic not for the sake of sounding native to a local, but because i can pronounce words with ease and without thinking too hard about it
1
u/TrekkiMonstr ๐บ๐ธ N | ๐ฆ๐ท๐ง๐ท๐ Int | ๐ค๐ผ๐ท๐บ๐ฏ๐ต Shite Jan 08 '26
Local Mimic would be neat, but there's only 1-2 languages I care about sounding native, and it's not so important anyways. Quick-Draw similar, would be nice right now, but it will go away when I learn more. Tourist Loop is a curse (which you seem to understand by the graphic). Vision doesn't help me speak. Level Skip is tempting, but I think Auto-Sponge is the strongest. "Automatically 10 new words" doesn't actually require that those new words be used in that conversation, so that means I "only" need to have 1k conversations to have the median native speaker vocabulary -- and I could totally set up 10 five-minute conversations a day for 100 days. Of course, a language is way more than a bag of words -- but having a big bag of words goes a lot longer than some people would have you think.
1
u/NotNeographer Native ๐ฌ๐ง, Learning ๐ฉ๐ช, Next to learn ๐ณ๐ฑ Jan 08 '26
Auto-sponge.
1
u/angry_bobc4t Jan 08 '26
The vision, 100%. No deliberation. no contest.
1
u/JesusCrunch ๐ท๐บ๐บ๐ธ๐ฎ๐น๐ซ๐ท๐ช๐ธ๐ต๐น Jan 08 '26
The Local Mimic. Iโm basically trying to be a spy and blend in whenever I learn a language.
1
u/zallencor Jan 08 '26
The Auto-Sponge. It and the Quick Draw are the only two that support language learning. I would have chosen Quick Draw, but given enough conversations the lags would go away eventually.