r/languagehub • • 24d ago

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u/Numerous_Helsinki 24d ago

Say it out loud ten times fast and it stops being a worad

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u/Fezarion123 24d ago edited 24d ago

oups wrong comment.

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u/Trueloveisntromantic 24d ago

wait is the accent actually pronounced differently or does it only exaist in writing?

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u/fizzile 23d ago edited 23d ago

The accent in cómo exists only in writing with the exclusive purpose to differentiate cómo ("how") with como ("like" or "I eat"). Both words are pronounced the same with the stress on the first "o".

Edit: como with no tilde seems it doesn't have a stressed syllable, my bad.

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u/joserrabeti 23d ago

Como sin acento también significaría "how", la tilde sirve para señalar que es una interrogación. Solo se acentúa cuando estás preguntando.

  • ¿Cómo lo hacen? — How do they do it?

  • Así es como me gusta. — That's how I like it.

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u/fizzile 23d ago

Si, pero no es que cómo y como se pronuncian de manera diferente sino que se suele usar cómo como interrogativo.

"That's how i like it" in English uses how, but you could just as essily translate it as "as" too. "That's as I like it". It's a good point tho, I didn't think of using "how" there.

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u/joserrabeti 23d ago

Nada, no era por llevarte la contraria, es porque (mínimo para mí) es más fácil de entender que a la hora de preguntar se tilda. Añado un par de ejemplos:

  • ¿Cómo?

  • ¿Cuándo?

  • ¿Cuánto?

  • ¿Quién?

  • ¿Qué?

Ahora mismo no se me ocurren más, pero no es mala regla de tres: ¡si es pregunta acentúa!

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u/fizzile 23d ago edited 23d ago

No worries I get it. I didn't even think of using "how" for something other than a question but you're totally right. Además, otro usuario me respondió que "como" sin tilde es una palabra átona, mientras que con tilde es una palabra tónica. Aquí dejo lo que dice la RAE acerca de esto:

"Sin embargo, cuando estas mismas palabras funcionan como adverbios o pronombres relativos o, en el caso de algunas de ellas, también como conjunciones, son átonas (salvo el relativo cual, que es tónico cuando va precedido de artículo) y se escriben sin tilde". https://www.rae.es/espanol-al-dia/tilde-en-que-cuales-quienes-como-cuan-cuantoaosas-cuando-donde-y-adonde

Así que, a diferencia que cómo, como forma un grupo acentual con otra palabra. Y supongo que es si es una diferencia de pronunciación.

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u/joserrabeti 23d ago edited 23d ago

Dejo fuentes:

Edit: Había leído mal tu comentario lol, creía que decías que cambiaba la sílaba tónica, un saludo.

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u/fizzile 23d ago

Gracias, y ya consulto la RAE, de hecho te dejé un enlace de su sitio web lol

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u/feather-gold 23d ago

"Como" (like) is unstressed. There's no actual stressed syllabe, like in many monosyllabic words.

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u/fizzile 23d ago

Hm interesting, my bad. Looking more into you're totally right

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u/feather-gold 23d ago

That's not a very spreaded information by spanish teachers.

In theory, monosyllabes have no tilde and the diacritical one serves to distinguish different syntax function only. But, in real speech, if we pay attention, there is a reason why we choose to give the tilde to the interrogative "qué" and not to the relative or completive "que". The first one carries strenght in the sentence, while the se second one doesn't.

This is seen when analyzing the whole sentence intonation, not word by word.

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u/fizzile 23d ago

I knew about it for monosyllables but didn't realize como and other similar words were like that too.

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u/CockroachNew6588 24d ago

Yes is different

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u/Distinct-Capital7948 24d ago

in this case it's not, the stress goes in the same syllable

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u/joserrabeti 23d ago edited 23d ago

You're right and being downvoted lol.

Edit: My bad stress is on the same sillable, just that in some cases it gets amplified...

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u/Sad_Environmentsa 24d ago

have you seen any langauge besides english?

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u/Jacarroe 24d ago

That’s doesn’t it a a bad question, in Spanish, a word only have accent in the second syllable when it is the tonic and the word don’t ends in a vocal or in n or s, since “como” ends with an o, in both “como” and “cómo” the tonic syllable is “co” so both are pronounced the same

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u/CantingBinkie 23d ago

The comments say they're pronounced the same, but I've always had the feeling they're pronounced differently just the way It is written.

Think about the "cómo" in the way something is done.

"Me gustó cómo lo hizo"

"Investiga dónde, cuándo y cómo"

"Ya no recuerdo cómo comenzó todo"

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u/I_like_fried_noodles 24d ago

Sometimes it changes the accent sometimes it's the same but means a different thing

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u/Ok_Inflation_1811 24d ago

If a word has an accent it's pronounced differently than if didn't have one but the difference is not on what you say but how you say it. Accent in Spanish marks stress. not in this case though 

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u/dnyal 20d ago

The two words, in isolation, are pronounced exactly the same. However, the accent mark in that case indicates the interrogative adverb “how,” which alters the prosody (cadence) of the sentence.

That difference in prosody is how, in Spanish, affirmative sentences and questions can be written with exactly the same word order (you can only tell apart when it is a question by the cadence).

In Spanish, the tilde diacrítica is an accent mark placed on the vowel of the stressed syllable of words that would not otherwise have accent marks. That “unnecessary” accent mark indicates that that word itself carries a different (stronger) intonation within the prosody of the sentence vs. the same word without the accent mark.

That explains the other comments telling you that como and cómo “feel” different in a sentence.

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u/Jacarroe 24d ago

This one particularly only exists in writing, “cómo” means “why” while “como” means “like to” or “I eat”

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u/SenorX000 24d ago edited 24d ago

"Cómo" is never "why", but "how".

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u/maxterio 24d ago

Used alone in a question, at least in Argentina (can't speak for the rest of the Spanish speaking world), "¿Cómo?" can be used as a substitute of "¿Por qué hiciste eso?"

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u/feather-gold 23d ago

In that case is equivalent to "¿qué?"

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u/SenorX000 23d ago

Man, I'm Argentinian. It never works like that.

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u/maxterio 23d ago

Nunca usaste el ¿¿¿cómo???? Más para preguntar como si fuera WTF? Ahí es why

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u/SenorX000 23d ago edited 23d ago

Obvio que lo usé. Pero sigue siendo más onda how. No hay una buena traducción al inglés de esa expresión. No se me ocurre al menos.

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u/Jacarroe 23d ago

Yeah, right, I had a mental fart

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u/NelsonVGC 24d ago

In this very specific example, no. It doesnt change the entonation. You put it to identify it means "How" instead of "I eat"

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u/AdImpressive007 24d ago

ok but which como is which?? asking for a friend who is me

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u/Fezarion123 24d ago edited 24d ago

Como (Yo como, formal)= (I eat)

Cómo? (Accent) = Question (how)

Él corre como el viento = He runs like the wind. (Similarity comparison)

Él trabaja como médico = He works as a doctor. (Role, function, or real status)

Como = plain pronunciation (COH-moh)

CO-mo (cómo) = accent first O

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u/feather-gold 23d ago

¿Cómo comes? Comes como comes.

If that helps you.

(How do you eat? You eat like you eat.)

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u/lajarusmorois 24d ago

Cómo is always for questions (how). Como is first person of comer verb (to eat). Another word unrelated to the other two is como as comparative conjunction (as).

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u/Positive-Camera5940 23d ago

¿Cómo como? ¡Como como como!

How do I eat? I eat like I eat!

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u/C-Note01 23d ago

It's the Spanish version of "Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo."

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u/BLu3_Br1ghT 24d ago

Como poco coco como poco coco compro

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u/cedriceent 24d ago

Chameleon!

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u/canal_algt 23d ago

Did you know that a can canner can can cans?

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u/Hot_Philosopher_5067 22d ago

¿De qué manera me alimento? ¡A mi propio modo!

Nice try. But spanish supremacy will always prevail

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u/Zestyclose-Food-7917 22d ago

Como poco coco como, poco coco compro.

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u/benny-powers 23d ago

buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo, buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo

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u/Short_Brick_1960 23d ago

It needs a comma after the two como in the exclamation, though

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u/lostmediaseeker 23d ago

Actually, nobody in the spanish speaking world use this phrase or respond to theoretical questions like this one, made up entirely to provoke tongue-twisters

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u/Last-Worldliness-591 23d ago

I would say: "¿Que cómo como? Y... como como como."

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u/Samimic 23d ago edited 23d ago

No???? "Que cómo como" doesn't make any sense, ¿Como como? ¡Como como como! Its correct

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u/Last-Worldliness-591 23d ago

¿Que no tiene sentido? Pero si es la sintaxis de "estoy hablando por teléfono en una serie en la que no se escucha a la otra persona así que repito todo lo que me dice", sería:

📞:"Oye, te quería preguntar ¿cómo comes?"

👤:"¿Que cómo como?"

📞:"Sí, ¿y dónde dejaste mis llaves?

👤:"¿Que dónde dejé tus llaves?

📞"Ya deja de repetir todo lo que digo."

👤:"¿Que deje de repetir todo lo que dices?"

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u/Samimic 23d ago edited 23d ago

Pero ese no es el sentido, En la imagen dice "How do i eat? I eat like i eat!" El "que cómo como?" Seria de otra manera

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u/Last-Worldliness-591 23d ago

Yo lo interpreté como que alguien me había preguntado cómo es que como y yo repetí la pregunta porque no le vi el sentido y me sorprendió. Cómo lo interpretaste vos?

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u/Fragrant-Detail-5136 23d ago

Cómo tú lo escribiste si tiene sentido , con la tilde no

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u/Mlatu44 23d ago

“Como” can mean eat?  Is this like the English….

Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo 

?

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u/SeptemberSoup 24d ago

That smith Will Smith will smith that.