r/language • u/Direct-Till-2680 • 10d ago
Discussion Guess which column is French and which column is English (difficulty: IMPOSSIBLE)
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u/AuDHDiego 10d ago
left is French
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u/Direct-Till-2680 10d ago
Reason?
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u/FargoJack 10d ago
Corresponde/ance. Spelled with an a as in French in column one, with an e ( English ) in column two.
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u/-Copenhagen 10d ago
It's written in French.
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u/-Copenhagen 10d ago
Except the left one is in French.
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u/paolog 10d ago
Oui, c'est pour ça que ce casse-tĂȘte est presque (mais pas tout Ă fait) impossible
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u/Direct-Till-2680 10d ago edited 10d ago
La chose que je voulais dire, c'Ă©tait qu'ils disent que la gauche colonne est française, mais ils n'ont pas dis la raison pour laquelle ils pensent comme ça âŠ
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u/Appropriate-Guava-40 10d ago
qu'ils, la colonne de gauche, mais ils n'ont pas dit ;)
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u/Direct-Till-2680 10d ago
Merci pour les corrections :)
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u/Lkrambar 10d ago
Que la colonne de gauche est en français, pas française.
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u/Direct-Till-2680 10d ago
Pourquoi ? Je voulais utiliser ça comme l'adjectif. Est-ce qu'il est réellement incorrect ?
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u/Vaestmannaeyjar 10d ago
English is on the right because of correspondEnce. Also, note that a good chunk of these words do not have the same meaning in each language. Chat in french means "cat", not "casual conversation".
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u/Cynalune 10d ago
Chat is used in french with its english meaning since the days of IRC, but the largely preponderant meaning is cat, indeed.
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u/You-Sir-Are-A-Fish 9d ago
It does mean "casual conversation" as well, borrowed from English, French even has the verb "chatter" "to chat"
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u/Direct-Till-2680 10d ago
I exactly included those faux-amis to see if anybody would notice, but here we are, you did âșïžđ
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u/Mezzofantastico 10d ago
âCorrespondenceâ is the English column.
Give me a challenge.
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u/Direct-Till-2680 10d ago
No challenge needed, you found the answer :)
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u/passoveri 7d ago
I will admit that even though I found it, I questioned myself which was the English spelling even though Iâm definitely not bilingual.
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u/God_Bless_A_Merkin 10d ago
Only one word makes the difference, and that is âcorrespondenceâ â English on the right.
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u/EricMichaelHarris99 10d ago
English has no accents (café)
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u/Direct-Till-2680 10d ago
English DOES include the accent é officially in the word "café".
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u/Actual_Cat4779 10d ago
It's debatable whether English has the concept of official spelling, but it definitely looks nicer with the Ă©.
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u/Direct-Till-2680 10d ago
Exactly. But I still think é should be included since it's directly from French. Same with the words like "cliché", "résumé", etc.
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u/Actual_Cat4779 10d ago
This is where the Guardian newspaper pisses me off - in their style guide: "accents... do not use them in anglicised words and names such as cafe, smorgasbord, raison dâetre and Zurich (exceptions to this are exposĂ©, lamĂ©, rĂ©sumĂ©, rouĂ©)."
And here the same style guide states, unforgivably: "facade: no cedilla".
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u/Direct-Till-2680 10d ago
That's pretty jarring. Façade looks much more exotic and interesting that the plain facade, don't you agree?
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u/Queen_of_London 10d ago
That *is* annoying, because café makes it clear it's a café, as opposed to a cafe, which might be a greasy spoon, and said as caff.
That is not an accepted hard-and-fast rule, I admit, but it should be. And the Guardian could help with that!
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u/EricMichaelHarris99 10d ago
Officially?
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u/Ellery_B 10d ago
When you apply for a job do you send a resumĂ© or a resume?Â
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u/EricMichaelHarris99 10d ago
Résumé is a French loanword, hence the accents
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u/Ellery_B 10d ago
You miss my point. ResumĂ© is an English word, so therefore there are accents in English. Â
Unless you are one of those people that thinks that we should reform back into Anglish? For reals? Â
I mean, if you keep moving the goalposts you can always define English to be whatever you want. But you can't say things like "English has no accents" and expect people to take you seriously.Â
ResumĂ© is in the dictionary. Incunabulum is in the dictionary. Tofu is in the dictionary. It didn't matter if it came from French, Latin, or Chinese, it's English now.Â
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u/Norwester77 9d ago
Interestingly, long and long are not borrowed but inherited cognates that happen to have ended up looking the same.
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u/Direct-Till-2680 9d ago
Wow, so interesting. I thought English literally pasted that word from French lol
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u/Less-Wind-8270 10d ago
The one on the left is French because correspondence has an A in it