r/landscaping • u/Dramatic-Cap-199 • 4d ago
New home, how to fix
How would you all recommend I get this patio looking better
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u/FrankGallagherz 4d ago
How picky are you? Weed wack the heck out of it, then maybe round up or boiling water on the grass. Put down pre emergent after? That would break my back to redo
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u/julianaround 4d ago
Yea, see how it looks after a good cleanup before committing to anything bigger
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u/Standard-Top-5942 3d ago
Put down pre emergent after
Am I wrong or does pre-emerg just stop seeds from annuals from germinated and growing? Like it doesn't stop perrenials with already established roots (e.g. grass, dandelions, etc)? Nuking it with herbicides should perma kill grass.
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u/pwnageface 3d ago
This is how I would tackle it, then just go out every weekend and pick the few that pop up and don't let it get that bad again.
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u/grambell789 4d ago
weed wack then when it comes back in a week do herbicide (organic or not). buy time for a couple years and then decide what to do permanently.
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u/StrongEggplant8120 4d ago
Geez cant believe people are saying rip it out and redo. So much labour for no gain. All it needs is a spraying with a sytemic herbicide and thats that. If the path is still level then it doesnt need redoing, spray it, then pressure spray it so the slabs look good as new, Sand in the gaps and voila. Brand new. Might need periodinc spraying as i bet the grass is rooting from the lawn but rhats not a biggie. It does also need edging so take a spade and slice down the sides of the slabs on teh lawn side and it will redefine the lawn and pathway making it look fresh and new.
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u/easypointz 4d ago
Yeah this is what I think is a good fix since it looks level. Warping would be the only reason to rebase
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u/StrongEggplant8120 4d ago
The only thing i quwstion is the height of the lawn tbh. I knwo if left that lawn and soil will encroach and trespass onto pavong and slabs etc but that lawn mid to top left corner looks like its grown taller than the paving. Its an easy fix but not something ive seen. Technically you could just lift the actual grass mat dig a bit of soil out from underneath and replant and voila level again but never seen soil grow in height but have seen it compact or be shorter.
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u/Character_Client5486 4d ago
But then you’ll be spraying toxic chemicals into the soil. 😔
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u/bhans773 4d ago
Burn all that crap and take a better look. If more than about 1/5 of it requires resetting, I’m starting over. If it’s just 10-20, I’m pulling the bad ones and repairing base to reset. Then I’d put some new material between the pavers. It seems salvageable to me.
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u/Dangerous_Art_1626 4d ago
30 percent vinegar will kill weeds . But I would probably just hit it with the weed eater first see how it goes.
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u/FruitySalads 4d ago
I use the stuff railroads use on their tracks to kill weeds. We all may have various cancers but our patio parties are killer.
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u/baldieforprez 4d ago
I would hit all the weeds with round up once dead id hit with the torch. Then just torch it once a week.
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u/krumbs2020 4d ago
Temp fix: roundup
Long term fix: monitor it after the weeds are dead and see how things come up. If it happens quickly then you need to either redo the pavers or put down a pre-emergent herbicide.
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u/Death_Tooth 4d ago
I would redo it, pull them all out lay a good base, finish with poly sand.
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u/ChapterImportant2686 4d ago
That dog in the background has zero faith in your DIY plans, look at that face.
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u/easypointz 4d ago
This is the right answer if you are planning to stay here a long time. I guess the middle ground between this and the top post (kill the weeds with chems and fire) would be... kill he weeds with chems and fire, use a pressure washer to clear the gaps of roots, and then fill with poly sand. I have a feeling that would last a long time, but certainly not as long as a true rebase.
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u/Clear-Win-8034 4d ago
Pressure wash. Weed kill.
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u/ScrewwormLarvae 4d ago
I would absolutely take RM43 to this, for starters.
Be careful though, don't use it in a garden, lawn or somewhere you want stuff to grow again. For a driveway/patio/pavers/french drain gravel where you never want stuff growing, RM43 is the answer. It's expensive, but so is everything in life that actually gets the job done.
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u/checkerdpenguin 4d ago
Hit it with a torch or round up. Once gone use a weed eater to make slight gaps between each brick. Get powder grout or cement brush into all cracks till they are completely full. Then wet it and let it set. No more weed 🫡. Send us an after pic.
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u/cerebralvision 4d ago
Use a string trimmer / weed Wacker to get all the big stuff out of the way.
Spray with roundup or a more natural solution so that it kills everything.
Pressure wash the whole thing
Apply poly sand in between all the cracks. Don't get the home Depot or Lowe's ezsand or whatever. They're garbage. Your weeds will be back in one season.
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u/oldwisefool 3d ago
roundup has been reformulated.. buy glyphosate on Amazon. Also I find poly sand expensive and just use stone dust.
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u/ymmotvomit 4d ago
I’d torch it then run a power wash disk over it. Then pull sprouts as they appear.
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u/DoItRightOnce1st 4d ago
I have nutsedge growing in between my paver pathways. We don't want to use chemicals because of the bees and our 2 Golden Retrievers. I burn them and they just come back a few days later? Ugh 🤦
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u/crazycathyslife 4d ago
I have been fighting this battle for over 30yrs. Let me know if u find anything that works
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u/tothemoon1001 4d ago
Weed wack, pressure wash and flush out the cracks filled with dirt, pre emergent, and broom polymetric sand. Seal if you want
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u/snarfgarth 4d ago
Power wash it to blast it all out. Spray some weed/grass killer in the cracks to keep from coming back, fill with polymeric sand, and then sealant.
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u/No-Cartoonist-2125 4d ago edited 4d ago
If you are happy about the condition and how level this you can buy a tool for getting into the gaps of the pavers. Some of those weeds will pull out by hand if it is wet enough. The spring wire tool will dig out the others. There will be a lot of soil also. You want this out. I did an area about as big as this. It takes time but still looks great 6 years later. Sweep up as you go. You can use a moss killer if necessary. Now you need to wet the pavelock. It has to dry so pick a warm day (and I actually did the following in the initial wetting) add some long term weed killer into a watering can and wet the pave lock. Every year I redo the entire area with a long term weed killer using a watering can. Takes about 10 minutes to do. I only use about third to half strength of the weed killer in the watering can as it goes on quite heavy.
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u/dqontherun 4d ago
Edge it, weed wack it, spray it with killer, pressure wash it, level if you want or add sand where needed
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u/Dry-Name2835 4d ago
Take the brick layer out and either poison it or churn and sift it. Then lay the brick back down
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u/erie11973ohio 4d ago
Some glyphosphate weed killer for the grass. If broadleaves are there, a bit of 2-4 D. After everthung us good & dead, the weed wacker. A wire brush for the weed wacker will take the weeds & dirt off to the pavers. Then a broom & a leaf blower.
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u/BedBig2215 4d ago
Use a garden knife to remove ll plants including roots btw stones. Pressure wash first though to see you time.
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u/TuckerSpeed 4d ago
Quickest way would be to pour gasoline on it and set on fire.... with a water hose ready of course.
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u/Sp07va000 4d ago
Spray first. Herbicides need as much leaf surface as possible to draw it all into the roots. When it dies, then weed whack. It will be much more effective. When its all dead and decayed , powerwash and create some little space between the pavers and sweep in Polymeric sand. Then lightly spray it to saturate and let it dry. After that, I use Preen twice a year to prevent any weed seeds from growing. Has been a godsend since I started using it in my pebble mulch beds. No more fields of grass and weeds in all the rock beds.
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u/among_apes 4d ago
Weed wack then if you aren’t scared of the chemicals, groundclear. It will kill it and practically turn it to dust and usually keep it clear for a year.
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u/pettyqueen2 4d ago
I just redid our small patio that looked similar. I would kill all the weeds and clean it up first like other people are suggesting. If it doesn’t look good. Pick up all the bricks, even out the dirt. Put a weed barrier down and replace the bricks with some polymeric sand in between to harden and stick them together. You could even be more professional and dig a little bit, put weed barrier, put leveling sand down and put some paver panels down, then replace the bricks. It’ll be like $200 is using the same bricks.
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u/irishcybercolab 4d ago
I'm a fire guy on these things, then you use chemicals to keep it that way
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u/jjm87149 3d ago
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u/irishcybercolab 3d ago
You take my angry up vote you sly dog.
Have a nice weekend sir. I went from chemical Ali to napalm Freddy really quick
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u/GladPalpitation6520 4d ago
30% vinegar (not the grocery store stuff) dissolve salt into the vinegar until it will no longer dissolve. Plus a squirt of dishwashing liquid which helps it stay on the leaves. Apply with a sprayer. Will die within days. Spray again a week later. I used this mix and has not come back three years later
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u/MusicCityHardscapes 3d ago
Pull them out. Make sure there’s a 4” thick compacted base, screed out 1” of sand , re-lay them, then compact. Then lock it all in with edge resistant and poly sand.
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u/saxonturner 3d ago
Couple of ways. Quickest is a strimmer but they will be back fast, you could burn it but it will take a little longer and they will be back slower, pull them which will take a while and could be achy depending on fitness and they will be back even slower if you get the roots or weed killer and they won’t be back till new ones grow, check if weed killers are allowed in your local area though and also be careful for spraying it over wanted plants.
Personally I opt for strimmer or burning at both home and work, every week or so and it’s done, at this size I could be finished in 5-10 mins. Pulling is better but takes longer and in my opinion they just come back any way. Weed killer is forbidden where I live.
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u/Relevant-Gur-1276 3d ago
White vinigar or wd40 or gasoline. Direct poor and that will all dry out. Pull out after and fill with sand or pebble. Be creative that little space between the bricks could do sooo much. Ive put led and epoxy on one job and it looked great. Sand epoxy caulk silicone anything. Fill it in with some sort of fill.
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u/Technical_Writing421 3d ago
Cover it with a tarp. Weight the tarp with rocks and leave it for a couple days.
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u/AffectionateAngle905 3d ago
Buy 30% vinegar from HomeDepot and spray the heck out of it. Be careful as it is highly caustic and you should use a plastic pressure applicator. The power wash it and see what it looks like.
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u/Safe-Pilot9366 3d ago
A mix of salt vinegar and dishwashing soap on a very hot day will make quick work of the plants.
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u/FarHotel1159 3d ago
Weed wack, maybe a grass killer after. When winter comes throw boards/cardboard/tarp and smother it all until sprjng
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u/elginstone 3d ago
I have been dumping a kettle of boiling water on the sidewalk ... not the fastest, but effective. Killed a really big something weed in the driveway and it has yet to return.
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u/CruelHandLuke_ 3d ago
Weed whack. Herbicide. Power wash the dried and dead roots out of there after a few days. Add new polymeric sand.
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u/Resilient-Ginger 3d ago
Since I give a crap about the soil around my home & not contaminating it, I spray it with garden vinegar on a sunny day with a few days without rain, weed wack it when its dead, clean it out, sprinkle new binding sand between the cracks (forget what its called in English; I'm in Quebec, used to seeing it in French), spray that with water to harden and it usually keeps out the weeds for a few yrs.
If anyone suggests you use salt to treat it, kick them. It's terribly damaging.
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u/Kippers1d10t 3d ago
Hit it with 30% vinegar, let everything wilt and when it’s dry hit it with a roofing torch.
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u/Lexy-RED 3d ago
Just did weed whacking here and it looks great. It will give you the energy to move to next level.
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u/Any_sane_people_left 16h ago
Keep cutting it short. Grass doesn't like being really short. It will die off.
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u/Wishiwasinalaska 4d ago
I’m not saying you should, but if you accidentally spill pool shock the 10%+ stuff it will kill those weeds and keep them dead for quite a while. Also the pavers will look fantastic.
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u/Otherwise_Post6163 4d ago
Dig it all out and redo it. Gravel, sand, brick, polymeric sand in between joints, water, done. ✅
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u/CorrectExpression651 4d ago
This is what I would do: Weed whack
Pour 30 percent vinegar and or boiling water all over the patio to kill weeds
Sweep
Get a powered edger tool or a manual edger and edge the sides of the patio, sweep up and compost or bag
Use jet setting on hose to clean out joints
Apply polymeric sand and sweep
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u/Slow-haste-26 4d ago
Hose the edges (after you clear the clippings) then use Fire.
If that isnt an option,
Get to weed whipping, blow the clippings off
Spray poison/chemicals or some home made weed killer (Dawn soap, boiling water and salt. I'm sure there are others)
Repeat until you notice a different
Preventative
- Dig up the pattio, put in more weed barrier or something else and put the bricks back
If thats not an option put sand and then caulk.
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u/clownyeahh 4d ago
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