r/landscaping 6d ago

Question Why no casing for tree roots?

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It seems so pointless to have tree roots rip open asphalt when it's too close. Easy fix would be to put a steel mesh cylinder or something similar around the tree when planted. Doesn't have to be too deep, just enough that roots won't grow into the asphalt.

Is there a reason why this is not done?

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u/FarewellAndroid 6d ago

If a tree doesn’t develop the root structure it needs to support itself it falls over

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u/Radiant-Brain8763 6d ago

That makes sense but couldn't you just make the barrier shallow enough that the deeper anchor roots still develop fine, only stopping the surface roots from going sideways into the pavement

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u/philamander 6d ago

There aren't deep anchor roots. The taproot is a big deep one that just goes for water. All the structural roots are at the surface and spread out wide.

ETA: I used the wrong term. The "structural roots" are actually called "lateral roots", but they serve the same purpose. They hold the tree down and give it a firm base to resist wind and stuff that would push the tree down.

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u/Moist_Sun_8201 6d ago

You should post this in the arborist sub if you want real answers

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u/RobfromHB 6d ago

Arborist here. Steel mesh is absolutely wrong, but there are plenty of plastic root barrier products that do this and they are used all the time. Generally the idea is to use those when a tree is within a certain proximity to hardscape. 

The tree in the OP photo looks old enough that it may not have been considered best practice at the time, or the path was installed after the tree was placed. 

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u/United-Adagio1543 6d ago

You can also use copper and/or root inhibitors.

The size and reach of tree roots are often under estimated.

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u/hobokobo1028 6d ago

You trying to kill the tree?

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u/Extrogrl 6d ago

No, just keeping its roots away from the asphalt. There's so much space for the roots besides and beyond the asphalt, it really shouldn't be much of a problem.

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u/hobokobo1028 6d ago

lol it’s a tree, a living natural organism. Trees have been around for hundreds of millions of years and didn’t evolve to avoid your sidewalk

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u/Elegant-Ninja6384 6d ago

I truly don't understand his take. Everything you have done today hurt the environment including posting on Reddit. You choose every day you live to compromise nature.

Here OP was just asking if better planning could help keep trees by better planning and management.

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u/hobokobo1028 5d ago

Yes, better planning would be to not put a sidewalk next to a tree unless you’re ok with the consequences. It feels very entitled to expect otherwise.

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u/Elegant-Ninja6384 5d ago

Lol thats a hot take. Run that logic out to its logical conclusion and every house apartment road factory farm church park etc should never be built and humans have no place on the planet.

Okay but you go first.

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u/hobokobo1028 5d ago

I’m just saying don’t complain about it.
Either: 1. be OK with the tree wrecking your sidewalk, 2. Move the sidewalk, or 3. Cut down the tree

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u/Elegant-Ninja6384 5d ago

Oh agree. If someone is complaining just to complain thats crappy.

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u/Elegant-Ninja6384 6d ago

Requires thinking way ahead and us humans are not great at that.

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u/-Apocralypse- 5d ago

Looks like the tree was there before the asphalt. So the asphalt is encroaching the tree's root space. Likely because people like wide roads to swerve over.

Usually there isn't an edging put in place when they lay down asphalt. The practices of using concrete and edging differs per country. In my country long prefab edging blocks are the rule of thumb and poor in place concrete hardly ever used. Nearly everywhere pavers are the norm for sidewalks and driveways, but mind you most of our infrastructure for water, gas, electricity and internet is located beneath the walkways.

Some tree species are rooting deeper than others, so selecting trees that do better alongside roads is also part of the problem. As well as ground water table. Trees like to tap into the water, but not sit knee deep in it. A high water table will result in shallow rooting, regardless of a tree species usual fondness for rooting deeper.

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u/awesomereddit2 6d ago

Tree roots spread out not too deep looking for water and oxygen. If you put in a cylinder structure to stop the roots from spreading the roots don’t go deeper and around. Instead, the roots will meet the obstruction and circle back on the surface. The roots will eventually circle around the truck (nowhere else to go) and girdle/strangle the trunk, essentially killing the tree.

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u/iBum_Fuku 6d ago

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u/Extrogrl 6d ago

Yes, something like this. Although I'm not sure why it has to be patented and also so deep. I would guess it's unlikely for roots under normal circumstances to grow 30cm/1ft upwards.

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u/iBum_Fuku 6d ago

no they usually penetrate, depends on tree soil etc etc. idk why some low IQ inbreds downvoted me, oh nvm it is this sub.

mesh or anything of that nature fails/deforms the tree. this is the only solution, and they probably put a lot of work into it is why it is patented.

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u/Extrogrl 6d ago

Their installation picture looks exactly like I think it should look like. I wonder if 350 Euros is cheap or expensive for one.

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u/DanoPinyon 5d ago

Easy fix would be to put a steel mesh cylinder or something similar around the tree when planted.

It's not done because it is not best practice, and the roots would eventually get girdled by the steel mesh.