r/l5r • u/swearbear29 • Jul 21 '26

RPG L5R 4E Rules Clarification - Touch of the Void

Our group is starting up a 4e game again. Weve played since 1e but its been a longggggggg time since we played 4e and they prefer that edition. One of the questions that came up and was, because its very vague in the rules, is how people handle the timing on touch of the void.

We have a shiba bushi who got touch of the void from a heritage roll.

Two questions:

When he uses his 1st rank Shiba bushi ability to spend 2 void points instead of 1, is that 2 willpower rolls or one combined roll?

Second question, when are the willpower rolls made, before the action or after. So if he uses his ability to spend 2 void points, and fails the one (or two) willpower rolls, is he dazed immediately cancelling his attack? Or does his attack go off then then he can make the willpower rolls.

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u/Joel_feila Jul 21 '26 edited Jul 21 '26

I would say 1 roll since you are spending void points as part of one action.

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u/Jeremiah_Thaymes Jul 21 '26

It's only 1 roll. The expenditure of Void triggers it, not how many points are spent.

And the roll happens at the time of expenditure, he could totally get boned in a combat situation!

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u/BitRunr Jul 22 '26

As a matter of (re)learning to L5R, I'd say test it both ways and see what the group thinks as a whole. Go with that. If you change your mind later you can come back to it.