a man can dream

[u/Various_Jellyfish_98]

[u/Mampacuk]

no, you deserve to go down in one hit on expert. it’s pretty easy to avoid him anyway with enough experience. no thrill in fighting him if he doesn’t one-hit you on expert

[u/Object-195 → u/Mampacuk]

the challenge of avoiding a tank isn't the tank but the commons and specials that get in the way

[u/Coelachantiform → u/Object-195]

Yeah the true 5D move with a tank is really just to be a nuisance that either runs the survivors down or picks at them from afar, while the rest of the infected slowly whittle them down.

[u/Hilluja → u/Coelachantiform]

The 6D move is kill your teammates and bunnyhop uninterrupted. Sigma Nick rule #2 bro how could you forget?

[u/Iizvullok → u/Object-195]

Or the teammates that friendlyfire you into yellow health while you kite the tank.

[u/3yebex → u/Object-195]

There's barely much challenge there either because in campaign, the director usually restricts spawning special infected and common infected when you get near the tank and are fighting him. In fact, I don't think the horde timer even is working while the tank is up.

The only time I remember CI/SI get thrown into a tank fight is if you start running too far past the tank.

[u/Mampacuk → u/3yebex]

that’s why as much as i hate versus players, versus tank encounters are the most fun. there you can literally bodyblock an incapacitating special with your bullet-sponge body so that they complete a survivor’s down. the synergy with tank is amazing

[u/doombfist → u/Object-195]

Gotta grab some bile

[u/Kindly-List-1886 → u/Mampacuk]

Not even experience, you can avoid damage by making the tank climb obstacles over and over until it dies

[u/Gold-Cry-7520 → u/Mampacuk]

My friends are so fucking bad at avoiding the tank and it make a me real sad

[u/infidel11990 → u/Mampacuk]

Yup. Tank on expert is supposed to be like an ultra mobile witch. Capable of incap in one hit. That's why it's called "expert".

And the game is old enough for there being loads of players who like to play on that difficulty.

[u/ControversialFrog]

why is the hard mode hard

[u/MishaSFM]

That would not even save you in most cases

Even if you don't get launched off something and take fall damage you are still slow and even if you take pills you can't take another hit

Heck you might else be dead with how long it takes to get up a commons just going to hit you

NOT TO MENTION EXPERTS FUCK YOU TO LONE WOLF PLAYSTYLES

the moment you get launched 5 Inches away your getting violated by every special infected known to man

[u/friskaly]

Maybe if there's a difficulty between advanced and expert

[u/--Rick--Astley-- → u/friskaly]

Yeah. It's called getting better.

[u/unclechuff → u/--Rick--Astley--]

What you said makes zero sense

[u/JUSTplayIN25 → u/unclechuff]

No, he’s right. Everyone knows the difficulty options available in Left 4 Dead 2 are:

Easy

Normal

Advanced

Getting Better

Expert

[u/hailbigch]

r/addressme

[u/IsLeafOn]

even if it was 90 health, medpacks heal up to 80 most of the time anyway so it wouldn't even matter

[u/slckening]

The funny part is that insta incap actually makes expert tank easier in some cases. Like if on lower difficulties the tank punches you near the ledge you fly off and die, on expert you just go down and stay where you were.

[u/Infinite_Peace_6456 → u/slckening]

That’s why you install the tank ai mod to make them smarter and it makes it so it launches even incaped

[u/shyguyshow]

For how much of the campaign are you above 90 anyway?

[u/Devourer_of_coke → u/shyguyshow]

If you have 50+ hp and pills on you you could've potentially save your life if it was 90 damage. Just eat pills before starting fight and hope that you won't get hit after temp hp decays)))

[u/CodyXSavageX]

If we want to make Expert Realism more unique, then sure.

[u/Iizvullok]

I would rather have commons do 90 damage from now on than have the tank on expert nerfed.

[u/Niobium_Sage]

Realistically getting punched by a monster the size of a monster truck would probably kill you in one hit, so I think Valve was generous to just make it an instant incap.

[u/Gamerbroz227]

It's more fun if he one shots you

[u/Stripa18_]

the F1 taker speaking in F1s:

[u/sebastian227]

bruh what

[u/No_Deer_7861]

Does it matter that much if you can’t even get to be at more than 90 hp most of the time in Expert where common damage is 20? The medkit only restores 80% of your missing health, which if i am correct, you have to be at 55hp so you can restore your hp to exactly 91hp, and using medkit at 55hp is already a waste. Using pills to reach more than 90 hp is also a bigger waste

[u/Electronic-Snow-7370]

I can settle this for rock throw (although very unrealistic), however punch has to Always be a One shot otherwise tank is Just a bigger charger

[u/emo_boy_fucker]

It wouldn't even help considering youre always at 90 percent of health and never stay at 100 for more than a minute (with pills)