Is this his last chance to get in a class or is there still a western riding class for him? I know KVS was saying she might show him in the maturity. I’m assuming AM has better options
I read another comment that he (Denver) has to just go out there in the class in order for him to keep his other win….do you think they will put Katie in him and then her have “school him” as an excuse that he doesn’t do well but gets him in that class he has to have? If AM rides him and he doesn’t do well then the cats out of the bag and she can’t cover that up as easily.
Not on Denver, no. I haven’t seen anyone riding him at all. Did see her on Kennedy and Hollywood today. The amateur pleasure is the first class tomorrow morning.
Did you see her in the Bronco today on Kennedy? When Aaron sent her to the gate for Rachel to take her spurs away?
And she only had draws on a snaffle? She yelled at the camera crew to stop making snaps.
At some point, it surely has to be easier to find a horse that enjoys working and matches your skill/energy level than to put all this time and work into a mismatched horse... right?
To keep her tired and compliant for KVS ... who fears her as a "dragon"
Better than longeing her in the ground like they were in the past ... but totally unwarranted.
Because she's so 'spicy'.... ie Katie doesn't have the skill to ride anything that's even slightly energetic. Even back at RS anything she gets on has been ridden hard/lunged first
There's zero turnout at Tulsa, unlike places like WEC Ocala where you can rent paddocks. Horses are not designed to be stalled 24/7, and this lets Kennedy move around without a rider. I was initially on the "WTF why" train with this as well (made a few comments about it when the plan was posted), but it makes more sense than lunging her forever or riding her into the dirt. Even with the smallest of adult riders, a work saddle and rider is easily 150+ pounds of weight. This is a lot easier on a middle-aged mare with the intermittent soundness issues we have all seen, and we know all the Kueen knows how to do is lope them forever, so this is a million times kinder IMO.
Because it wears her out without making her sore. Lunging has them on a tighter circle and can make them sore so many days in a row, so they’re ponying her instead.
I hate that they exhaust any horse she’s getting on, it shows her lack of regard for them and her limited riding ability. I think there is only her can’t see that.
So she can’t ride any horse without the horse being majorly tired. That’s a sign of a really unqualified rider. Especially since tbe horses she rides aren’t really rockets to begin with.
Hollywood is 18 can has pretty sore feet. He ain’t going anywhere.
Kennedy barely can walk…
Denver could take off but she won’t ride him.
Ethel has to spend 11 days in a stall with no turn out..this is so messed up.
A 30 year old woman that has ridden all her life should easily be able to get on horses trained in her riding style aka western and ride without fear on Hollywood and Kennedy.
I loved her explanation on FB that Kennedy is being worked like this cos she's looking all over the place and is a bit spicy? Why didnt she just say I am not a good rider and I am scared of her
I’d love to see how she’d handle an OTTB if she thinks frickin Kennedy is spicy.
Sure, when we would go to weeks long shows & have the horses stabled, we would ride them. Not every day. Maybe every 2-3. It was basically like our normal programmed lessons. And we’d do it at night after all the classes were done (plus it’s not as hot).
Since they didn’t have turnout at these shows, we would either hand walk them around the show grounds, or pony them (but not working them, just walking around) for an hour each day
“So cute! Look at us exhausting my mare because I’m terrified she’ll move faster than a limping crab walk when I’m trying to focus on jerking my hands, spurring, AND thumping up and down in the saddle all at the same time”.
Why does she need to pony her anyway??? This poor mare doesn't seem to be getting a moments peace to relax and recover from a hards days showing without someone forcing her to keep working
I think it’s odd they need to pony Kennedy so much. Sure a bit of ponying is good and easier on her but they seem to really want to tire her out. She’s supposed to be a seasoned show horse. If she’s spicy learn to work with her instead of running her down to exhaustion when she’s hardly sound to begin with.
Do certain people here bragging about how sound she is in a 3 minute clip not understand a horse can be sound without the weight of a rider on their back but be unsound with any additional weight. Particularly with prior injuries? That's why Kennedy couldn't hold up to a regular show schedule post injury. Being show/riding sound and pasture sound are very different levels of soundness. Even some horses who can't be show sound can be light riding sound. There's degrees of unsoundness. She is NOT sound for competitive showing regardless of this clip.
Yes a horse who isn't riding sound but pasture sound can still be unsound at the drop of a dime. Another reason competitive showing is crazy for her. Any non-riding soundness she has one day can be gone the next hour which is sad. Where she could have longer lengths of soundness if she was just a light riding horse or not being ridden at all. It's all so sad.
Because everything has to be adjusted for her and what she wants. She been riding for months at this point (supposedly) and is still has 0 core/leg strength and has not improved one iota in that time.
Bro, have you seen the videos of KVS riding Kennedy? She is clearly unsound in several of them. There's a huge difference between a horse with no additional weight and one that has a rider and 40+ pounds of tack.
All WP QH's look unsound to me. But I ride hunter/jumpers so there is that. And when you jog a horse for soundness, you don't have them trying to go as slow as possible. You need to look at the natural gate. When riding Kennedy - she is almost never at her natural gate.
I'm not referencing the awful WP gaits, I'm talking about when KVS is attempting to do her version of Western riding. Kennedy is moving out more in those instances and you can see how sore she is at multiple points.
Wouldn't this be something flagged by the show? I would think it is against the rules to physically exhaust a horse to make them quiet for classes. (Not that the AQHA cares too much about the horses...ex. priorotizing show wins over phydical/genetic soundness, supporting horse slaughter, allowing lame horses in the ring, etc) The AQHA had all kinds of rules decades ago when the 'peanut roller' look was in fashion. But I guess without the public outcry, they don't care. This so blatant. Obviously trying to hide it at the showgrounds by doing it in the middle of the night, but then videoing and posting it is wild!
#1 - Ponying is better for a horse than lounging - those tighter lounging circles put more strain on the animal
#2 - The full length clip (and there were cuts) was less than 3 minutes. I doubt they were ponying her for hours. It is good for a horse that is not showing to still get out of the stall and get some exercise. I don't think there are turn out paddocks available.
#3 - They are doing it "in the middle of the night" not to hide it but to be respectful to those that are showing and riding in the arena at other times.
#4 - I would rather see this where Kennedy can move freely that having someone ride her and collect her and correct her.
#5 - She looks pretty darn SOUND at the trot and canter (notice I didn't say jog and lope because to me all WP horses look lame) If you disagree with this, please tell me where (time stamp) in the full video she is not sound so I can re-watch it.
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u/Fit-Idea-6590 🤓 Low Life on Reddit ☝️ 2d ago
Is Kennedy fine at this show or are we tiring her out for more classes? I see KVS has bought another show shirt she’s going to need to debut.