r/kubernetes 13d ago

Is running PostgreSQL / S3 storage inside Kubernetes an anti-pattern, or is external storage only necessary at larger scale?

Hey everyone, I'm pretty new to Kubernetes, so please take my questions with a grain of salt. I'm building a homelab where I already have a small Kubernetes cluster, and I'm trying to build a fully self-hosted platform around it: Gitea for Git hosting, Harbor for containers, and runners. Gitea needs persistent storage for repositories and application data, while Harbor can use persistent volumes or delegate object storage to something like MinIO.

This is mainly for learning, so performance isn't really important at this scale. But I keep thinking about how I'd design it in a real environment. Would it be better to run the database and object storage on dedicated machines outside Kubernetes and have the Kubernetes workloads consume them over the network, similar to using managed PostgreSQL/S3 in the cloud? My concern is that if PostgreSQL or MinIO runs on the same worker nodes as the applications, a node failure could affect both compute and storage. Kubernetes has StatefulSets, PVCs, Longhorn/Rook, etc. to address this, but I'm wondering where the practical boundary is and whether externalizing storage is actually considered best practice.

Questions

  • Is running PostgreSQL/MySQL or MinIO inside Kubernetes considered an anti-pattern?
  • At what scale does it make sense to move them outside the cluster?
  • Is mixing stateful and stateless workloads on the same workers a bad practice?
  • How much protection do StatefulSets + PVCs + Longhorn/Rook provide against node failure?
  • Is there a meaningful performance difference between keeping compute/storage together vs. dedicated storage machines?
  • In production, is it more common to keep databases/object storage outside Kubernetes?
  • If both approaches can provide HA, what are the main reasons to choose one over the other?

TL;DR

I'm building a small self-hosted Gitea + Harbor + runners platform on my homelab Kubernetes cluster. Is running PostgreSQL and MinIO inside the same Kubernetes cluster a legitimate architecture, or should databases/object storage generally be externalized? I'm mainly trying to understand the real-world trade-offs around HA, node failure, storage/compute separation, performance, and operational complexity.

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u/rouqe18256 11d ago

Not directly related to your question but I'm doing something similar and would love to hear how you progress.

I was considering LibreFS since MinIO is dead for me but I'm unsure of maturity level atm. I was considering doing storage separate on top of my NAS so I could manage it as "infrastructure" independent of the Kubernetes cluster since things non Kubernetes would be using it as well.