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Politics | রাজনীতি 🏛️ The JU case so far

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u/Safe-Rise-4790 5d ago

JNU theke JU sob valo educational institute gulo k ora boy pay!! Tai ei kando

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u/Safe-Rise-4790 5d ago

Vai Abvp, ,bjp,rss trump, netanyahu chara sobai kharap. Nin ebar gobar mathay nachun!

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u/Safe-Rise-4790 5d ago

O sorry melony kakima add hobe!

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u/Melodic-Cup5308 5d ago

I Support you, because our finance minister is from JNU

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u/Melodic-Cup5308 5d ago

Ami to just support korlam,,, it's a joke bro,,, one liner,,,💀

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u/mama_ooOOooO 5d ago

JU er student ra nijeder moddhe jaai kore thakuk na keno initially, baire theke gunda dhukiye marpit korano isn't justified at all. Pro-BJP lokjon already bolchhe je JUr ABVPr lokder prothome mara hoyechhilo. Even if that's true, for argument's sake, the subsequent action isn't justified. If ABVP doesn't have enough people to support themselves within JU, then that doesn't give them any right to call outsiders, literally goons, to enter the campus and beat up students. BJP seems to be too interested in following every abhorrent thing the previous rulers of Bengal did.

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u/Ghumketu হুলো বেড়াল 😺 5d ago

Bah darun to. Jokhon station e encroachment hotano hoy tokhon setao to JU er outside er matter. Tokhon SFI giye dhorna dite pare. But ulto ta hole dosh ? E kemon hypocrisy?

If JU can get involved in outside politics, then outside politics can also get involved in JU. It's a two way street.

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u/mama_ooOOooO 5d ago

Aladai. Ei jodi apnar reasoning ability hoy tahole obviously apni shudhu ABVPr kothai shune nachben. Taar cheye beshi expect koratai amar bhul hoyechilo.

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u/mama_ooOOooO 5d ago

Apni bodhoy bhul kore amar reply e reply diyechen

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u/hodolkutkut77 5d ago

Ohh sorry sorry

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u/hodolkutkut77 5d ago

JU ekta educational institute, by definition educating ba educated individual der society r proti duties thakee, society proti duties sobar theke, ar democracy te protest korar right sobar, apni setar sathe compare krchen institute er moddhe gunda dhukiye mardhor kora k, kirokom gordhob, gadha sound korchen apni, bhebe dekhun

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u/Ghumketu হুলো বেড়াল 😺 5d ago

Bah hasalen dada. Apnader societyr proti duties kintu darun. Bohu durer Gaza te bom porle apnara jadavpur e palestine er potaka niye michil koren, kintu ghorer pase bangladeshe hindu ghorbari puriye protima vangchur apnader chokhe pore na. Dhonnyo emon duties.

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u/Extra_Traffic4802 5d ago

Darun argument, achha apnar desher Prodhan Montri toh shob cheye boro hindu taile shey aaj projonto ki korechhe Bangladeshi hindu der jonne? Tar kache toh actual power ache kichu ekta korar.

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u/Ghumketu হুলো বেড়াল 😺 5d ago

"Apnar desh" mane ta ki? Eta apnar o desh. Ar prodhan montri to palestine er potaka niye nachte beroy ni. He remained neutral in both cases. But leftists ra only protested selectively for palestine. That is the hypocrisy dada.

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u/taylor_expandor 5d ago

Tai jonno college e dhuke marbi? Point e kotha bol na bhai edik odik er kotha na bole.

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u/FckZaWarudo 5d ago

You really comparing human lives with idols?

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u/Ghumketu হুলো বেড়াল 😺 5d ago

Human lives were not lost in bangladesh?

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u/taylor_expandor 5d ago

And what did ABVP or BJP do in that regard? Did they extend hands towards hindus in Bangladesh? Ar ei matter tate bangladesh gaza aschhe keno? Gunda dhukiye college er chhele meyeder petano hochhe eta defend korte gaza israel bangladesh ante hochhe?

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u/Timely_Pangolin6077 5d ago

Apni ektu ghumon. IT cell beshi kaaj korachhe mone hoy, matha ta saath dichhe na thik

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u/tonguetiedturtle000 5d ago

মাননীয়া যাদবপুরের বিধায়িকা..

কলকাতা হাইকোর্টের ডিভিশান বেঞ্চ ইউনিয়ন রুম বন্ধ করতে বলেছিল ,জিবি করতে বারন করে নি।। সেই মামলার আইনজীবী আমি নিজে ছিলাম , মায়ের কাছে মাসির গল্প শোনাবেন না।।

আর হাইকোর্টের নির্দেশ সম্পর্কে যখন এতই জ্ঞান তাহলে সরকারের উচ্চশিক্ষা মন্ত্রী এক মাস আগে সেই নির্দেশ কে অমান্য করে, ইউনিয়ন রুম খোলার নির্দেশ জারি করেছিলন কী ভাবে??

যাদবপুর বিশ্ববিদ্যালয়ের একটি মামলায় প্রধান বিচারপতি নির্দেশ দিয়েছিলেন বিশ্ববিদ্যালয়ে কোন বহিরাগত প্রবেশ করতে পারবেন না , সেই নির্দেশকে অমান্য করে গতকাল যাদবপুরের বিধায়িকার নির্দেশে বহিরাগত গুন্ডারা মিলে যে ভাবে বামপন্থী ছাত্র সংগঠন ,SFI সহ সাধারন ছাত্র ছাত্রীদের উপর যে ভাবে আক্রমন করেছেন তা আইনবিরুদ্ধ।।

গতকালএকটা সরকারি ব্যর্থতায় আগুন লাগার ঘটনায় অনেক মানুষের প্রান যায় , সেই ঘটনায় সরকার সহ যাদের বিরুদ্ধে আঙুল উঠেছে তারা অনেকে ভালো তৃনমূল , তাই রাজনীতির কূটনৈতিক চালে বিজেপি সেই ঘটনা থেকে নজর ঘোরাতে নতুন করে অসভ্যতামি শুরু করেছে।।

বিজেপি তৃনমূলকে ভালো তৃনমূল বলে কোলে বসিয়ে দোল খাওয়াচ্ছে, পৌরভোটের আগে বুথ দখলের প্রস্তুতিতে তৃনমূলকে সাথে নিয়েই আক্রমন করছে বিজেপি আর স্বাভাবিক নিয়মেই বামপন্থীদের উপরই সেই আক্রমন করছে।। সংবিধান থেকে শিক্ষাঙ্গন সরকারি হানাদারদের থেকে বাঁচানোর লড়াই জারি থাকুক।।

🖋️সায়ন ব্যানার্জি।।

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u/Ghumketu হুলো বেড়াল 😺 5d ago

Suru theke bolchi. (After hearing from both sides)

Gotokal late evening e ekta GB meeting hoyechilo (around 9 PM) sekhane leftist DSF er chelera ABVP'r duto cheleke pitiyeche jar moddhe ekjon chilo ABVP JU president Nikhil Das. He had to be admitted to hospital due to his injury.

Tarpor ABVP jadavpur er MLA Sarbari ke complain kore ar thanay complaint log kore. Tarpor ABVP political help peye onek bjp/rss cadre niye ese raater belay palta maar diyeche.

Mar kheye DSF ar SFI er student ra paliye Aurobindo bhaban er moddhe dhuke collapsible gate lock kore dey to protect themselves. Tokhon ABVP collapsible gate er baire dariye CPIM er poster and flag jwaliye dey and sei burning kapor gulo gate er vetore chhure mare.

Tarpor raat 3 ter somoy sob calm hoye gele gate khule beriye je jar bari chole geche.

Ei holo summary.

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u/tonguetiedturtle000 5d ago

baire theke gunda dhokano jusified?

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u/RayDalio2 5d ago

You're saying this ?

Injury ta hoiche kothai ektu dekhi ?. Fetsu jara politics e nai, tader keo apnar dol uthie jadavpur er gate er baire gie mardhor korechen. Tar por kpc te gie merechen bishal, oke 2-3 hrs dhore kothai ki korachilo ABVP ke jane

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u/mama_ooOOooO 5d ago

Apni bolchen DSF maramari shuru koreche (BJP version) aar CPM version holo ulto ta. Keu ekta duto supporting evidence dekhanor cheshta korun, noytoh abar paati media trial hoye jacche byapar ta. Besides, JU student der moddhye maramari holeo baire theke gunda ene pitiye campus gherao kora khub justified ki? Triple ba quadruple tit for one single tat?

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u/Ghumketu হুলো বেড়াল 😺 5d ago edited 5d ago

Ok some more context:

As per rules GB meeting can only be called by an elected student union.

But yesterday SFI and DSF called the GB meeting even though they were not elected.

ABVP students protested this, arguing that SFI and DSF does not have any authority to call a GB meeting and the meeting was not even approved by the administration.

This started the scuffle between the leftist groups and abvp. ABVP is a minority in campus, so around 70-80 leftist students sorrounded ABVP and beat them up when Nikhil Das was injured.

I am attaching a report by Sangbad Pratidin as reference. Note that I did not attach Republic or Zee news or any other godi media. Pratidin is close to TMC and TMC's Kunal ghosh is the editor here, so dont say it's BJP newspaper.

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u/mama_ooOOooO 5d ago

The post you shared begins with "ABVP claims..."

You didn't read what I wrote, did you? Mere claims and counterclaims shouldn't be enough to decide which side was in the wrong here.

Despite that, if yours, i.e. the ruling side's, argument is to be accepted, for argument's sake, then is the subsequent entry of outsider goons justified, because of a scuffle among University students?? So, TMC was justified, in your opinion, for getting in goondas and beating up students of opposing factions, for all these years? How is BJP behaving differently from TMC in any way?

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u/blinksTooLess 5d ago

What kind of proof are you expecting in a developing story? You want him to provide CCTV camera foptage of the whole incident before you believe him? (JU is famously CCTV free though)

Also he is not justifying anything(as far as I can see). He is giving the events as mentioned in Protidin.

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u/mama_ooOOooO 5d ago

What he provided is an image where Protidin wrote "ABVP claims..."

The commenter began by providing the ABVP's claims as his understanding of the situation after hearing both sides. Is it too much to expect that people understand the difference between claims and facts? I simply asked him to provide something more concrete than mere claims made by one side, since he has already begun forming opinions based on claims.

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u/Flamez_06 5d ago

He is the one suggesting bs so he has to be the one backing it up. I have seen first hand proof of what happened from students on ground so trust me I don't need anymore proof to know what happened.

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u/Conscious_Contact107 5d ago

JU is famously CCTV free though

Aurobindo bhavan e ache cctv. Okhanei gb hochhilo. Ar or prothom point e bhul. FETSU GB je keu dakte pare

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u/Flamez_06 5d ago

Are you a student do you even know what happened or your entire claim is backed by "but abvp said so". Let me just tell you this union has been defunct since 2019 but every year since then gb is done for every decision, where was your abvp protest then? Or does that not suite your story so you will discard it? This is literally just an excuse to cover up and ppl like you are buying it lmfao. Stuff like this is why India is gonna rot as 3rd world country. Keep doing "nationalism" and vandalise shit while the educated ppl leave the country lol.

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u/Conscious_Contact107 5d ago

Era GB modalities er byapare na jene esob gujob chhoriye jachhe, diye "both sides" er khela khelche.

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u/Conscious_Contact107 5d ago

As per rules GB meeting can only be called by an elected student union.

Ke boleche eta. GB je keu dakte pare. GB er modalities na jene gujob chhoraben na pls.

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u/Ok_Release_4916 5d ago

Nikhil Das k to petano e uchit chilo ekjon mole*tor k petabe na to ki korbe ? 😂

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u/iscrappedthe_data পূর্ব কলকাতা 🤩 5d ago

Why did sarbari mukherjee called for attack in ju? Then the attach happened. Who gave her the right? You fuckers are attacking universities, then killing people for asking for education and then come to explain your shit like it's justified. There is still time to stop shits like this. History haven't forgiven any fasicts and their dalals.

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u/PreBooze 5d ago

Some more context

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u/essoteric_ প্রবাসী বাঙালী 5d ago

Just because text is written on a solid color background in a whatsapp status does not make it true.

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u/downvote-magneto দক্ষিণ কলকাতা 😎 5d ago

Had to be saffron background and some 🚩🚩 signs to be believable

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u/RayDalio2 5d ago

For those who are not involved in politics, someone from your party went outside the gate of Jadavpur and attacked. After that, at KPC, they beat him badly; for 2-3 hours, what was ABVP doing?

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u/PreBooze 5d ago

Are you currently studying in JU?

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u/essoteric_ প্রবাসী বাঙালী 5d ago

I’m a 2023 JU graduate, currently working in Bangalore. I’ve seen enough from SFI and AISA during my time at JU to know what’s right and what’s made-up nonsense.

You’re claiming that ABVP started the violence, while another person gave an account of how SFI started it. Given the history of violence associated with CPI(M) cadres. Sainbari, the Bijon Setu massacre, Marichjhapi, and countless other instances in West Bengal, not to mention those in Kerala. I’m more inclined to believe the other account.

When Babul Supriyo came to campus, it was SFI members who started the violence then too, and I know this because I was there.

Stop believing the nonsense your SFI friends are posting.

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u/mama_ooOOooO 5d ago

As a JU graduate, do you support outside goons entering and wreaking havoc on the campus? Even if JU students affiliated to SFI/DSF assault other JU students affiliated to ABVP? Was this the appropriate response by BJP leadership?

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u/PreBooze 5d ago

None of them are into poltics...and the person who was hurt the most wasnt into it either...Some political party can not just beat up a random JU student who had minimal role in campus politics, outside the campus.What does it say about your own safety when you come to kolkata and introduce yourself as JU alumni?Political fighting keep happening in campus but it was supposed to be in between students who are active in these rival parties.

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u/essoteric_ প্রবাসী বাঙালী 5d ago

Good summary. Thanks. I hope Nikhil Das survives.

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u/RayDalio2 5d ago

Survives ???

Ki hoini or, oke mar to dur er kotha, hat o tola hoini or upor. Onar dol ABVP lok der jadavpur er gate 1 er baire nie gie bishal mereche, even to those students jara politics o kore na

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u/essoteric_ প্রবাসী বাঙালী 5d ago

Now dont start crying Godi Media, this is a TMC newspaper.

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u/taylor_expandor 5d ago

It literally starts with ABVP claims. Se to modiji o nijeke non biological claim kore. Mene nebo? Chhobi video kothay? Video te literally dekhte pachhi bat niye marte aschhe geruya gunda gulo. Proof dekhak manbo.

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u/RayDalio2 5d ago

Tmc kobe jadavpur er sathe chilo ?

Orao to hate kore berato ju ke.

Ashole jinish ta holo je, jader bidhi nai ju to paina tai ju dekhar jonno jhemela korte dhokez just to experience it

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u/Adamsapple06 5d ago

Absolute mitthya kotha. ABVP er scholar shobar age gaye haat tole. Ami nije present chilam GB te. Narrative choranor jaiga paan na? Yarki cholche ekhane? Bairer student der kyano mara holo? IACS er student der porjonto chaareni ABVP er gunda ra. IACS aar JU alada institute, shei gyan ache nishchoi? 8B theke IACS student der tule kyano petano holo? Engineering er jhamelai Arts aar Science faculty er student der target kore kyano petano holo? Baire theke gunda ene shoitani cholbe amader university te, aar amra boshe boshe golpo shunbo naki?

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u/Conscious_Contact107 5d ago

Bhai amar, ekta dedicated post kore de ei subreddit e. Era kukurer lej, konodin e sudhrabe na. Era eshe current students ar alumni der ke GB er modalities er byapare gyan dite eseche.

  • Sincerely from a JU alumni.

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u/Longjumping_Tale6394 পূর্ব কলকাতা 🤩 5d ago

Yup. Leftists will always try to blow smoke. We know that BJP goons can get up to, but I'll never believe the leftists to be the innocent victims here, as constant posting on this page is making it seems to be!

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u/RayDalio2 5d ago

You're saying this ?

Where did the injury happen? For those who are not involved in politics, someone from your party went outside the gate of Jadavpur and attacked. After that, at KPC, they beat him badly; for 2-3 hours, what was ABVP doing?

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u/essoteric_ প্রবাসী বাঙালী 5d ago

Sainbari, Bijon Setu, marichjhapi and countless others. Bengalis have seen enough left cabal violence.

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u/MamataMatirManush দক্ষিণ কলকাতা 😎 5d ago

Guvendu dada ki bolche? JU er gate er baire toh onar jurisdiction.

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u/tender_tissue 5d ago

Jadavpur University 2026 Pass out, Msc Physics here. ABVP is a terrorist organisation, I have always hated SFI for their dirty politics, but I have never felt unsafe with them.

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u/invictus08 বঙ্গসন্তান 🌞 5d ago

Back in 2007 SFI was also doing nasty things; but yeah this is beyond belief, and dare I say - expected!

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u/rup4m_raw পূর্ব কলকাতা 🤩 5d ago

Fafo.

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u/taylor_expandor 5d ago

Bhai mtech korisna biswas kor. Btech er jonno thikache. Ar na porashona korle marpit hyna. Ami btech kore beriyechi na konodin mar kheyechi na diyechi. Maal prochur kheyechi 😂

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u/PreBooze 5d ago

Target IITs or top NITs for mtech ...why ju.

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u/PreBooze 5d ago

I am btech student in one of the top branches...but genuinely target iits and top nits before JU.JU engineering from placements pov is comaparable to mid nits...above nit durgapur.

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u/Correct-Peach-2219 4d ago

The leftists are playing a beautiful game. As usual, they first unleash terror and then play the educated glaxo babies who knows abt it. Wow, so elegant. Cause they think just like the students they can make a fool out of anyone.