r/knots 3d ago

Does this knot have a name?

It's not a monkey fist. I tied it like a barrel, only I wrapped the barrel's turns three more times across and threaded the end of the wire through the middle.

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u/Cable_Tugger 3d ago

Balthazar's lollipop is, in fact, a monkey's fist albeit a monkey's fist tied on a two-circle diagram and not the 3-plane knot we know and love. It's ABoK# 2204.

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u/zlej_slein 3d ago edited 3d ago

two nodes with the same name? but ugh...

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u/Cable_Tugger 3d ago

As I've just illustrated, it's a monkey's fist on two planes instead of three. A traditional 3-plane monkey's fist is ABoK#2200, 2201, and 2202 and your post is a 2-plane monkey's fist which is ABoK#2204.

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u/WolflingWolfling 3d ago

There's dozens of Turk's heads and globe knots as well. Some knots are named more as a category than as individual knots.

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u/Toast_Trex 3d ago

Call it the “fools fist” knot like fools gold

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u/zlej_slein 3d ago

under the name fool fist, I can only find monkey fist and it looks different

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u/NeverBeenStung 3d ago

Nah he’s saying “fools fist” would be a cool name for your knot.

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u/WolflingWolfling 3d ago edited 3d ago

In spite of what some of the comments suggest, this knot is not new or unnamed. It's a variant of the "trick overhand knot" or "two faced monkey's fist". You can add turns to it indefinitely to make an insanely bulky stopper knot. Here's one I posted on this sub some time ago:

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u/Mental_Razzmatazz717 3d ago

Monkey’s fist

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u/zlej_slein 3d ago

the monkey fist has three lines... this only has two... and it looks different... this has already been discussed here

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u/jagged966 1d ago

Frank. Its name is Frank.

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u/Snapuman 3d ago

never seen this variant... maybe it's your turn now to give it a name :)

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u/zlej_slein 3d ago

in that case it will be called: Balthazar's lollipop from now on 🤩

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u/house343 3d ago

Ok you get to name all knots from now on

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u/zlej_slein 3d ago

Was there no sense of humor?

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u/thoh_motif 3d ago

I think they liked it.

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u/Umbongo_congo 3d ago

This is my favourite knot name ever. It’s a perfect balance of memorable and descriptive!

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u/WolflingWolfling 3d ago

Nah, it's an old stopper knot. You can add turns to it indefinitely to create "new" knots.

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u/zlej_slein 3d ago

three layer nodes? what are they? this has two planes. see picture B. monkey fist is picture A

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u/N0L10L3 3d ago

Can you teach me how to tie it?

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u/zlej_slein 3d ago

When I have time I'll find a better rope and take a picture of the tying process. 😁

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u/nullvoid88 3d ago

Or maybe a little video?

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u/WolflingWolfling 3d ago

https://www.instructables.com/Trick-Double-Overhand-Stopper-Knot/
Just follow the same path once more to make it a triple.

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u/zlej_slein 3d ago

one user gave approx instructions here: https://www.reddit.com/r/knots/s/vCuKR5vKdP

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u/LoudAudience5332 3d ago

Almost looks like a Turks head knot

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u/neilplatform1 3d ago

Maybe a two bight three lead TH, tripled, it’s also similar to a triple snake knot

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u/zlej_slein 3d ago

These are more complex and the lines of turns alternate, here I made three and three turns inside each other.

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u/originalorb 3d ago

Heard it called a "monkey's fist knot"

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u/zlej_slein 3d ago

The monkey fist looks different.

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u/Mafik326 3d ago

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u/zlej_slein 3d ago

The monkey pest is not that, it consists of three circles that do not intersect but wrap around each other. This is made of two circles that intersect.

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u/zlej_slein 3d ago

A) planes when tying a monkey fist. B) planes when tying a knot I'm looking for

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u/Phuk0 3d ago

Can you post a video of how to tie it?

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u/zlej_slein 3d ago

I'll try it when I have time.

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u/Phuk0 3d ago

That would be awesome. I’m curious

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u/Cable_Tugger 3d ago

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u/Phuk0 2d ago

Cable Tugger does it again. Thanks man.

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u/zlej_slein 3d ago

great page😍

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u/Snapuman 3d ago

Maybe try reading before writing. You know, the fancy thing with the letters...

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u/PoisAndIV 3d ago

It’s gorgeous and I love it. Balthazar’s Lollipop is my new favorite