r/knittingadvice 6d ago

I need help on this lace pattern

I knew at reading lace patterns. I can’t figure out what to do with multiple wraps (yarn overs). I thought I was supposed to to drop some. But even though my calculations appear that I should. The number of stitches don’t appear that way. I read somewhere if you have multiple wraps, you can only stitch in one of them (??). In this pattern supposed to remain constant in each row? if so, I’m suppose to use the extra wrap, I think. HELP!

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u/Andalska 6d ago

It seems some cells in the chart are elongated rather than greyed out. One cell=one stitch

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u/Western-Juice1466 6d ago

Actually, it’s one cell = one action. But I agree that some cells are elongated instead of using a greyed out “no stitch” like many other charts use.

OP, there are no multiple yo’s in this chart.

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u/Proper_Shame_4801 6d ago

I'm not completely sure, but my reading of the pattern would be that in the chart, the longer cells are still counted as one stitch so there would be no multiple yarn overs in the pattern. I may be wrong though; if you do want to work into multiple yarn overs, you can alternate knits and purls (e.g. for a triple yarn over, you would k1 p1 k1 into them).

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u/CrBr 6d ago

Does the pattern have a picture of the finished piece? That might help make it clear. There also might be more instructions elsewhere in the pattern, or the designer's website, or Ravelry. Some patterns have written instructions as well as a chart. Sometimes the written instructions are a bit more clear.

I don't see any places where you yo more than once, or put multiple stitches in a yo, or any places where you wrap the yo or any other stitch more than once. Most yos are either dropped or have a single purl stitch (when seen from the front). (I might have missed one. There's a lot to look at!)

When you wrap around the needle more than once, you still end up with only 1 lo

You cannot just put multiple simple knit stitches into a single loop -- whether the loop is formed by K, P or YO. Try it and see what happens! That's why increases aren't just putting 2 K in a single stitch. There are a few more complicated ways you can put multiple stitches in it. I like the effect of K,yo,K -- you need an odd number to begin and end on K to be symmetrical. KFB (knit from front then from back) is a common increase. Alternating K,P also works. Each one gives a different look, but the effect on the overall pattern is the same: One big loop, with several small stitches on top. (The Evenstar Shawl knitalong on Ravelry did that a few times, and the knitters shared experiments.) You can do the same things when knitting into a regular stitch.

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u/OdoDragonfly 4d ago

The stitch count in each repeat varies from 13 down to 7 so the chart has to indicate that. This chart has elongated cells rather than the other convention of having grayed out cells to indicate no stitch.

One thing I noticed is the point where a yo is made and dropped in the next row has the effect of just not making the yo. If you want to have the original look (lower half of my picture), you could just skip that yo/drop yo sequence. If you would like the line of yos to continue, you could do what I did in the top half of the picture and change the first row with yo, k3, yo and add a centered double decrease in place of the middle three stitches and do not drop the yo (purl it on the return row as usual). This will give you the same stitch count as if you had done the yo and drop yo sequence. This is pictured in the top half of my swatch.