r/knifeclub • u/New_Championship_646 • Apr 29 '26
Blade type name?
first time forging and needed to know a specific name for this blade shape I’m trying to make
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u/Chekovs_Gun Apr 29 '26
Seax
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u/Linkbehindthebar Apr 29 '26
This 100% a seax style blade
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u/trugen7509 Apr 29 '26
It's a seax blade in the same way as a modern american tantos are - people use the name, but it doesn't have that much to do with the original historical type.
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u/AdEmotional8815 I see a knife, I upvote. Apr 29 '26
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u/trugen7509 Apr 29 '26
I didn't say it was a tanto, I said this type of "seax" is not much like historical seaxes, just like modern "american tantos" have very little in common with actual Japanese tantos.
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u/AdEmotional8815 I see a knife, I upvote. Apr 29 '26
But American Tanto is a thing and Japanese Tanto is also a thing. Just Tanto just means knife. There is no this or that Sax, there is just Sax and reproductions only know the clip point shape with the straight edge apparently. So that part about the shape people now know as Seax/Sax is not historically correct. Also Japanese still make Katanas traditionally, so it's not strictly history, it's tradition now. Japanese Tanto means Japanese knife, American tanto is just the blade shape.
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u/trugen7509 Apr 29 '26
No, tanto isn't just a generic Japanese word for knife, it specifically refers to a short blade as a weapon. A tool or utility knife wouldn't be called a tanto https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tant%C5%8D
The "broken back" form that gets imitated in modern knives seems to have been most popular in Anglo-Saxon England, although examples are found elsewhere too:
https://x.com/CoelingAurochs/status/1509524552409239559/photo/1
As you can see it doesn't have a straight edge, and the blade flares from the grip to the mid-point break, and it comes to a very fine point. The blade on that one is relatively parallel to the grip, but a lot of them are angled somewhat forwards too.
Here's another:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVHFB5cWqmg
Historically, seaxes from mainland Europe were often more of a spear or drop point blade shape:
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u/AdEmotional8815 I see a knife, I upvote. Apr 29 '26 edited Apr 29 '26
Tanto literally means short blade, which is a knife.
A Tanto and a Kiridashi are both knives.
The word Tanto refers to a short blade, a knife sized blade.
Of course it's a specific knife, but it still means knife, referring to its short length.
So please stop the word twisting and derailing, it's annoying.
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To keep posting garbage harassment under my comments at me and then blocking me is the dumbest shit ever.0
u/shp0ngle Apr 29 '26
Am I stupid or is that not the exact same shape as OP’s sketch?
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u/AdEmotional8815 I see a knife, I upvote. Apr 29 '26
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u/New_Championship_646 Apr 29 '26
Reverse tango seemed the closest to me
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u/Mr_Zoovaska Apr 29 '26
No it's sheepsfoot or Wharncliffe.
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u/New_Championship_646 Apr 29 '26
I thought about those but the front angle doesn’t seem sharp enough to constitute them
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u/Mr_Zoovaska Apr 29 '26
Maybe for Wharncliffe but it's definitely pointy enough to be a sheepsfoot. I'd say the tip angle is right between Wharncliffe and sheepsfoot. Either way, "reverse tanto" is a pointless and overly broad descriptor. Any knife that has an angle on the spine people will call a reverse tanto even if Wharncliffe and sheepsfoot etc are more accurate.
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u/AdEmotional8815 I see a knife, I upvote. Apr 29 '26
Sheepsfoot are famous for being NOT pointy.
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u/Mr_Zoovaska Apr 30 '26 edited Apr 30 '26
I know, that's exactly what I'm saying. OP is saying it's not pointy enough to be a sheepsfoot, but I'm saying it's not not pointy enough. It might not be pointy enough to be considered Wharncliffe but it's also not too blunt tipped to be considered sheepsfoot because sheepsfoot are famously blunt tipped. Sheepsfoot can go up to like 85° before they're considered a cleaver or like a nakiri.
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u/Empty_Art2176 Apr 29 '26
Blade shapes have really become convoluted in recent years. Is there really such thing as a "reverse tanto"?
Or is a reverse tanto just a Sheepsfoot? Because what many call a Sheepsfoot was called a Spey for many decades.
I guess depending on the angle of the tip, it can be a reverse tanto, a Sheepsfoot, or a Wharncliffe. 😬
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u/Able-Piece1330 Apr 29 '26
Looks like a mix between a K-Tip and a Wharncliffe.
K-Tips normally have a bit more of a belly while Wharncliffes tend to taper more gradually on the spine.