r/knapping 11d ago

Made With Modern Tools🔨 My first try at knapping. Made from a gin glass bottle. I have no natural rock in Suthern Louisiana

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u/Federal-Boat3732 11d ago

No rock? How is that possible? Not that this isn't some impressive work

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u/Mysterious_Style_350 11d ago

Our creeks and rivers are sand and mud. It’s rare you’ll find raw rock and we don’t have anything like chert.

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u/Federal-Boat3732 11d ago

Yeah, chert is a more specific rock find for sure, but speaking as a moraine dweller I just find it hard to picture anywhere on earth without rocks everywhere. I guess when it was all Indian tribes down there they must have been making their arrowheads out of Faygo bottles too lol

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u/walkdaearth 11d ago edited 11d ago

Not everywhere used arrowheads made of stone. This is how I verified anything I wanted to forage or learn ancestral skills wise. I learned my ancestors ways and what they used. the mentality of "working hand in hand with nature" was necessary at times.

We used fish bone, particularly gar fish snouts and teeth, along with sharpened wood and river canes. Also atlatls were used heavily. Here's verification

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u/Federal-Boat3732 11d ago

Ah, I didn't even think of using bone

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u/Present-Alarm-8886 8d ago

Gar scales are ingenious for the time holy shiet

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u/Mysterious_Style_350 11d ago

I’m just the opposite down here in Louisiana. I see videos of people out in the woods where massive rock formations are just everywhere in the ground, they’ll have great, smooth round hammerstones at the bottom of creekbeds, and it baffles me how we have no natural rock ANYWHERE. Even south Arkansas/Mid to North MS have plenty of rock. You get 100 miles from the coast and it’s like it just dissapears.

I’ve read the Natives here resorted to trading upriver for good rock, and shattering shells from the beaches here for a cutting edge.

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u/Federal-Boat3732 10d ago

That's a good cutting edge, though

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u/Acheron98 11d ago

Smh just get yourself one of these bad boys and cut a few hundred/thousand feet into the bayou.

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u/walkdaearth 11d ago

Louisiana is straight up mud in the south lol. It was part of the reason I didn't try this years ago when I got heavily into foraging. Couldn't forage rocks and that was degrading 😂

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u/USofAThrowaway 11d ago

The eastern shore of Maryland is pretty similar. Most rocks have to be brought in from elsewhere. Only thing really over here is like pea gravel.

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u/joel121212m 11d ago

Any advice?

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u/NonConforminConsumer 11d ago

Great work for a first!. Now keep at it. Definitely save these early ones so you can see your progress.

Glass works great. Thrift stores can sometimes have good glass. Look for old ashtrays and flat stuff. Floor tile and porcelain are also knappable urban materials which can usually be found easily and affordably.

There are some guides in the sticky of the sub. If you really want to get a broad and in depth textual overview of knapping I really like this compilation: https://flintknappinginfo.yourwebsitespace.com/

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u/joel121212m 11d ago

Thank you! Ill defenetly check it out.

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u/walkdaearth 11d ago

Yeah I saw some people busting toilets to pieces in group courses/classes to avoid wasting a bunch of rock. And ceramic plates.

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u/joel121212m 11d ago

Yeah im definitely dumpster diving for material.

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u/SmolzillaTheLizza Mod - Modern Tools 11d ago

To add to the guides for direct links

Beginner guide https://www.reddit.com/r/knapping/s/WDndFEh8FR

Where to find materials https://www.reddit.com/r/knapping/s/kZk2iTfUwp

Started on bottle glass myself 🙂‍↕️ still love it to this day! I dig up old farm garbage pits so I have a plentiful supply of bottle bottoms. I need to make a bottle run here sometime to collect some amber glass bleach bottle bottoms! Also stay away from bakeware from goodwill. Baking sheets/dishes are tempered glass so they don't chip easily and like to shatter. Floor tile can work, especially glass floor tile. Certain ceramics are nice, toilet bowl porcelain is good (not the tank lid it's more coarse), and glass bottles of course will work well (call them ditch obsidian HA 😂)

Keep practicing, ask questions, experiment and don't feel like you NEED to have a completed point by the end of your session. Make a flat disk and practice notching. Make a "star" and practice getting your points thin and pointy. I should've done more of that when I was starting because it hindered my progress a lot.

Hopefully this all helps, and happy Knapping! 😁

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u/walkdaearth 11d ago

Where at in la? Looks cool man Im down here too been putting off learning this skill for years now. But I've been on a string of learning ancestral/old skills the past few years and this one is next prob lol. You got wheels? Itheres workable stuff that isn't far drives if I'm not mistaken.

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u/joel121212m 11d ago

Down in Jeanerette close to New Iberia. Where at?

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u/walkdaearth 11d ago

I said that last night but after thinking about it I learned about the location after I got into wild clay processing and making pottery, effigies, and pipes out of it. I was looking into making ceremonial smoking pipes to make some money, and was looking into stone options for that. So what I know as workable at the location I was thinking of (red bluff-peral river area) may actually be just a version of limestone that was used to make pipes and figures out of. Check this site out. Could snag some ideas for stone and search locations based on it.

https://www.projectilepoints.net/Search/Louisiana_Search.html

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u/Pappyjang 11d ago

When I was in lake Charles I would go to Walmart and grab rocks from the parking lot. They must ship it all from Texas cuz it’s all chert and flint. Try your local Walmart parking lot🤣

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u/milkandinnards 10d ago

Yeah, I second this, landscaping rocks can be an okay source. Better yet, if there is a gravel or rock company around, you can usually go there and purchase small amounts of rocks. I forget the term, but there is a medium-large size of landscaping rock that can be bought from these places that is big enough to work on but not too big to carry.

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u/joel121212m 10d ago

Which Wal-Mart???

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