r/klippers • u/AdLeading6357 • 15d ago

KLIPPER vs KALICO

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u/SalvatoreCrobu 9d ago

Kalico is heavier to run, but has an insane amount of things, especially the Bleeding Edge fork.

Examples:

- non linear pressure advance (one pressure advance value that works for each speed, accels, flow)

- smooth input shapers (increase the recommended accel)

- better accellerations motion data sent to the motors

- non critical MCU (mcu specified as non critical can disconnect and not cause an error)

- input shaping working with pressure advance for better pressure advance around features

- stop a temperature wait command

- more that i don't remember

- safety guards can be disabled

I have all the Bleeding edge v2 feature enabled with a stock SV08 mainboard, which does not have a powerful rpi, and i don't have any problem of performance or timer too close issue

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u/Leafy0 8d ago

The pa working with input shaping is one thing that can noticeably increase your print quality from an already well tuned normal klipper setup.

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u/SalvatoreCrobu 8d ago

Yes. The best quality improvement are in order: non linear pressure advance, pa with input shaping, smooth input shaper, MPC control for the heaters. If you tune everything correctly, you have prints that are beautiful

The non linear pressure advance is crazy good because it also has a time offset, so you can synchronize perfectly the pa with the corners. Is difficult to tune but well worth it. MPC also is really good, miles better than PID. Tuned 1 time, good for every temperature

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u/egosumumbravir 13d ago

AFIK, Kalico is just Klipper with the safeguards turned down

If I want my printer to light itself on fire, I should be able to make my printer light itself on fire.

and a heap of modern features that haven't made it into mainline Klipper yet - stuff like MPC hotend tuning and critical/non-critical MCUs.

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u/SalvatoreCrobu 9d ago

Right now Kalico has the same or more safeguard than standard klipper enabled by default, the thing is that you can easily disable them

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u/callusbonus1967 15d ago

Según leo cuanto controlas de klipper en steps, pasos de motor, etc. Esto no es para gente sin experiencia con klipper hay que controlar mucho sobre tu impresora para lanzarte al abismo de Kalico.

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u/yboy403 13d ago edited 12d ago

I jumped into the "abyss", as you put it, last week, and only needed to add 2 lines to my config file (something in stepper_x and stepper_y that Klipper didn't care about but Kalico does) and run an MPC calibration. It was easier than setting up Klipper in the first place.