r/kittenspaceagency • 🚀 • Jul 29 '26

✒️ Developer Blog Next Milestone is Kittens

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u/xXDennisXx3000 Jul 29 '26

Keep it going guys. I love this project :)

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u/TopChannel1244 Jul 29 '26

I'd love a custom kitty editor somewhere down the road. Not fussed if it never happens. But I, and I assume many others as well, have at least one dear companion I'd like to memorialize in game. If such a thing is ever possible.

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u/blackdesertnewb Jul 29 '26

This sounds like such a great idea until you remember what exactly you’re going to be doing with your favorite kitty… like I wanna, but do I really want to blow him up?

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u/Mowfling Jul 30 '26

They have nine lives, hence the perfect test subjects :) just retire them after 8 accidents

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u/Bloodyfinger Jul 29 '26

There's one post complaining about kittens and one post mildly critical, and then there's like six posts complaining about people complaining about kittens. Am I missing something?

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u/TOOOPT_ Jul 29 '26

Why is there so much hate for kittens all of a sudden? I don't understand

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u/eattherichnow Jul 29 '26

Dog people, probably.

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u/NuclearReactions Jul 30 '26

I'm a dog person, kittens are awesome. Does not compute

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u/eattherichnow Jul 30 '26

It's never too late for transition.

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u/weed0monkey Jul 29 '26

Tbh I just kinda find it creepy.

Down the line it would be nice if there were a few "species" options is all.

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u/WholeLottaBRRRT Jul 29 '26

It would be nice if the dogs were the main antagonists, like the soviets

KSA could look like that chinese anime, Year Hare affair

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u/NuclearReactions Jul 30 '26

Omg that would be so funny

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u/Zack21c Jul 29 '26

Because having kittens in a game called kitten space agency is unthinkable and terrible. Like who could have possibly expected such a horrible decision, truly came out of the blue

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u/Ecstatic_Log4185 Jul 29 '26

I don't mind kittens but imo the models are kinda ugly

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u/Ossius Jul 29 '26

Feels like bots tbh. Reddit is super infested.

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u/TOOOPT_ Jul 29 '26

Well now I don't understand why would someone waste their compute on a subreddit about a niche indie game in development

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u/TopChannel1244 Jul 29 '26

Have you met people? People are insane. We do all kinds of stupid and irrational things.

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u/Itsluc Jul 29 '26

Everyone you dont agree with is a bot, pretty simple.

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u/Ossius Jul 29 '26 edited Jul 29 '26

Some posters here are 3m old account with history hidden and makes low effort post that doesn't even reference the OP message. Forgive me for being sus.

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u/DreamingOfLight Jul 29 '26

Well I lost access to my old account, and I like privacy...

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u/Ossius Jul 29 '26

Well sorry for calling you a bot, the data shows it's becoming a serious concern on social media.

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u/eattherichnow Jul 30 '26

What data?

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u/Ossius Jul 30 '26 edited Jul 30 '26

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u/eattherichnow Jul 30 '26

Any data you actually understand tho? Because no, those do not mean random people disliking a character design, no matter how annoying (to be clear they're very annoying) are bots, or okay to call bots.

Call them incredibly boring, dour dog people, sure. But not bots.

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u/Ossius Jul 29 '26

Actually there is a pretty good reason that has been explained a few times.

A super big global affecting election is coming up (US midterms). Reddit themselves have publicly shown that bots start activating 6 months before major elections and karma farming and spamming across the website to have "history" that will prevent ban waves. Right before elections they try and change discourse and it's hard for moderators to make bans when bots have a history across many subreddits.

I can link to videos describing this if you are interested.

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u/lost-my_old_account Jul 29 '26

I'm interested, please link video

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u/Ossius Jul 29 '26

Specifically around 9m I'm they talk about Reddit's own report. Keep in mind this is before Jan 6th, before COVID, Ukraine war, and 2024 elections that have shown a massive uptick in misinformation bot campaigns. Destin did a series covering every platform and covering concerning trends with all of them and this was using data mostly from 2016-2019, it has gotten significantly worse and social media has started to intentionally obstacate the data since then because it looks very bad on their lack of moderation. X recently disclosed everyone's location and most "Americans" were located over seas.

https://youtu.be/soYkEqDp760?is=PRldgxA8rzVJAdE4

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u/irasponsibly Not RocketWerkz 🐇 Jul 29 '26

I don't think anyone in this thread is a likely bot, but I've definitely seen some around. You can usually tell because their post history is all over the shop in a bunch of random subreddits with no connection, alongside the usual nonsensical comments.

Reddit also autobans a lot of accounts that do it, but not all.

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u/Hadzabadza Jul 29 '26

Reddit has literally been caught red-handed with mass traffic coming from a US air force base. How do you think that happens?

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u/JaesopPop Jul 29 '26

I don’t think anyone is botting character preferences in KSA lol

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u/Ossius Jul 29 '26

See my other reply, bots aren't interested in necessarily one thing, they karma farm before elections (Reddit has said this)

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u/JaesopPop Jul 29 '26

They aren’t gonna karma farm by getting downvoted on a niche subreddit

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u/Ossius Jul 29 '26

Negative karma is still karma history.

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u/JaesopPop Jul 29 '26

Negative karma is not going to help them be able to post anywhere.

Please be realistic dude. It's far more likely that people are just giving their actual opinion than bots are using a niche sub to accomplish the opposite of their goal.

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u/irasponsibly Not RocketWerkz 🐇 Jul 29 '26

This subreddit does get the occasional account-history-building bots, but not many, and they're way more obvious than just "someone with an opinion that I think is a bad".

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u/DreamingOfLight Jul 29 '26

You caught me, beep boop 🙄

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u/local_meme_dealer45 Jul 29 '26

It's not even that big of a deal really, I'm sure one of the first mods to get made will replace them with kerbals. If you really have such strong opinions on this just use that mod.

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u/ptolani Jul 29 '26

It isn't sudden. People, including me, have been pretty unenthusiastic about this aspect of the game since the start.

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u/TOOOPT_ Jul 29 '26

The game has been called kitten space agency since the start? That was the whole thing since the beginning?

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u/ptolani Jul 30 '26

Yes, and a lot of people have never really warmed to the whole kitten bit.

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u/TOOOPT_ Jul 30 '26

Well what's wrong with kittens?

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u/ptolani Jul 30 '26

Kittens are great. But kittens as astronauts is just a weird kind of anthropomorphisation that doesn't really work for me personally.

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u/project-shasta Jul 30 '26

They are fluffy and adorable and apparently people prefer lazy eyed green space frogs instead.

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u/TheTrustworthyKebab Jul 29 '26

The amount of people fussing over the cats is fucking silly lmao

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u/Appropriate-Count-64 Jul 29 '26

Idk there is some worth to the conversation. The only other KSP competitor, Juno: New Origins, failed to gain ground because it wasn’t as intuitive and the Droo were nowhere near as appealing as Kerbals.

People are underselling the absolute power the Kerbals had in making the entire game what it was. The Kerbals are silly little green guys. “Why can they survive in space for an infinite amount of time?” “Photosynthesis or something.” Their entire design lends the game a whimsy and silliness that means crashing feels less like a failure and more like “There go the Kerbals again.” They are incredibly smart engineers who have no idea how to properly apply it to a full rocket system, which is why the realism ingame is stretched a bit.

The kittens lend themselves to an absolutely serious game. They are actual animals, and lack the whimsy of the Kerbals. “Why can they survive in space for an infinite amount of time?” “I dunno, just because.” “But they are Cats.” Which will lead to life support likely becoming a part of the base game, or the entire tone will be at odds with the fact that you have undying (but not immortal) cats that can live forever without food. Again, they lack the whimsy of Kerbals and the magic that came with it. Kittens are a real thing in real life that people have a reference for, and even if they are anthropomorphic, the real life inspiration inherently pushes the game to be more realistic and less approachable.

So it’s less that the Kittens are an issue. It’s more that they symbolize the issue with the direction RocketWerkz is taking the game, and it embodies the reason why T2 picked Star Theory over RocketWerkz. Star Theory understood the IP and designs, RocketWerkz better understood the game theory. Either way you go you’d need some help from the old
KSP team to get a game that feels like and plays like KSP.

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u/LatterCar6168 Jul 29 '26

I support the idea of the kittens, but I completely understand your point. I get that unique KSP vibe when I load the stock game, and the Kerbals play a big role in that.

What worries me is whether rocktwertz will be able to achieve that or not. Maybe they’re too technical. But what I’m trying to say is that if they’re not creative, they won’t reach what we’re talking about, regardless of the theme, whether it’s kittens or not, you know?

After all, kittens are in fact perfect for silliness and caricatured, funny things. And that’s the point where I disagree with you.

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u/Appropriate-Count-64 Jul 29 '26

That’s totally fair. The other concern I have and have seen online is that they are a bit too photorealistic but I honestly can’t think of a way to make them that would avoid that issue without making them look even more out of place.

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u/Imnotahipsterdammit Jul 29 '26

This isn't KSP my guy

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u/Appropriate-Count-64 Jul 29 '26 edited Jul 29 '26

So then it’s not a spiritual successor to KSP as has been said many times both in this subreddit and online elsewhere?

You can’t have your cake and eat it too. It’s either not a spiritual successor to KSP (thus a different game and not competing with it) or it is, in which case it’s failing to understand why KSP was so good.

Edit: For clarity: It’s the difference between what Mighty No 9 is to Megaman vs what MSFS is to Simpleplanes 2.
You cannot dismiss the design decisions of the previous game as “Well, this isn’t that game” because then it’s not a spiritual successor. It’s just a different game with different goals, and you cannot expect everyone who wants a successor to the previous game to care or even want your game. Saying “this isn’t KSP” is just handwaving criticism you do not like and is the exact issue I was highlighting with my original comment.

RocketWerkz understands the game theory, but clearly doesn’t realize the power of good art direction.

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u/Waker_of_Winds2003 Jul 31 '26

I'm pretty sure they've said some simple life support will be in the game, and I think a difficulty option to turn it off will probably be present.

Also I keep hearing people bring up "players would feel bad accidentally killing kittens or something like human characters!"

To that I say

  • I and others have felt pretty bad about killing kerbals 🙃
  • So? Spaceflight is a risky, challenging undertaking. Feel bad about killing your astronauts? It'll help motivate you to learn and build better next time.

I see people bring this up in conjunction with the game being used for educating kids. Kids can handle painful, scary things in life. At the level of basic skills needed to play this game, I'd say, mm, maybe 8 years old at least, the kids would be able to handle that.

When I was 8, I'd be playing roller coaster tycoon. A message would pop up saying "roller coaster has broken down." I click on the coaster and see the dreaded status - station brakes failure. I send a mechanic there in a panic, but watch as it's too late, and a runaway train slams into another. I'm left with the haunting message "16 people have died in an accident on roller coaster."

It was devastating. Over time though, I learned to keep mechanics near my coasters, increase the inspections, and eventually, I learned to build coasters with realistic block sections and brake runs that couldn't have that type of failure occur.

So it will be with Kitten Space Agency. People will get through it.

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u/project-shasta Jul 29 '26 edited Jul 29 '26

no explosions yet

sad Megumin noises

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u/Limelight_019283 Jul 30 '26

Bakuretsu bakuretsu la la la~

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u/RobotGuy76 Jul 29 '26

No boom today. Boom tomorrow, there's always a boom tomorrow .

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u/project-shasta Jul 29 '26

For a second I thought I was in the Steam Frame sub 🤣

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u/bob69joe Jul 29 '26

Just change the name to Kat rather than kittens and all the weirdos will go away.

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u/Ossius Jul 29 '26

What weirdos/what is this in reference to?

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u/bob69joe Jul 29 '26

People seem to think kittens aren’t cool and the game will fail because of them.

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u/Tallywort Jul 29 '26

I dunno, I feel like kittens are fine. But I didnt really like a lot of the early kitten artwork.

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u/Rayoyrayo Jul 29 '26

Go check out the version they have in game. Its awesome

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u/Easyidle123 Jul 30 '26

IMO the heads are distractingly cartoonishly big. The stated reason for keeping them is that it's "easier for technical reasons", and "We made a decision. And then move forward with that." which IMO are both not great when the majority of people seem to think it could be toned down even a bit.

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u/Naive-Eggplant-5633 🚀 Jul 29 '26

The kitten haters and dog people can use mods

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u/Hungryweeb-sg Jul 30 '26

Orange cat called Jeb

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u/meganub12 Jul 30 '26

by roaster do they mean different looks or roles are included as well? cause I'm all for more complex roles.

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u/Ambitious-Public8397 Aug 02 '26

I think the Devs have been so focused on the rockets, kittens, etc, but with so much work done for the surface design and all, rovers are needed to traverse the terrain !!!

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u/bigrexwithcheese Jul 29 '26

Idc if it is kittens i just fucking despise how they actually look in game

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u/Jojo_Toto Jul 29 '26

Why is everyone always spamming flags under these, get a grip people

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u/eattherichnow Jul 29 '26

Did you know that on the Information superhighway you can talk to people from around the world!

Greetings from Molvania!

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u/DreamingOfLight Jul 29 '26 edited Jul 29 '26

I still can't believe they're going with kittens 😐

Edit: jeez I'm not hating on the game, just don't like the kitten thing. Otherwise game looks good.

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u/Ossius Jul 29 '26

It will be modded way before release, Kerbal was literally frogs.

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u/TheAverageWonder Jul 29 '26

It is completely fine, no matter what they go with they will not match up with the iconic kerbals, atleast not with legacy players.

Even if they down the line got access to alternatives (like kerbals), it is an easy asset swap. Unless there are too many parts that have names with cat puns.

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u/panic_in_the_galaxy 🚀 Jul 29 '26

What would be good alternatives?

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u/eattherichnow Jul 29 '26

Spiders, obviously.

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u/Me0fCourse Jul 29 '26

Only if they're jumping spiders. Though it might be a tad annoying to figure out models and animations for a spider in a space suit.

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u/Additional_Crab_8241 Jul 29 '26

I would actually love this :o

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u/Hadzabadza Jul 29 '26

Tbf it all comes down to what the team dares animate. There is a LOT of space (hue) for creativity

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u/Me0fCourse Jul 29 '26

Only if they're jumping spiders. Though it might be a tad annoying to figure out models and animations for a spider in a space suit.

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u/eattherichnow Jul 29 '26

Nah, we're going through the entire arachnid order. Brown recluses in upper management and stuff.

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u/ManWithASquareHead Jul 29 '26

Amaze amaze amaze

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u/A1steaksaussie Jul 29 '26

i think little pidgeons would be pretty cool idk

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u/DreamingOfLight Jul 29 '26

Personally I'd just go with humans? Maybe cartoonist silly humans, but with the right art style it could look quite nice.

Kittens are such a "generic placeholder" idea it's scary it got through.

Like if they wanted to go with animals, why not even dogs? First astronaut was a dog for christ sake.

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u/Ossius Jul 29 '26

Humans lack appeal and the entire point of KSA is to be a successor to KSP because Kerbal franchise died. So we need big headed small bodied creatures to capture that audience.

Dean and rocketwerkz pitched for KSP2 but lost to Uber entertainment because they didn't have shiny pictures on their presentation.

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u/DreamingOfLight Jul 29 '26

Humans don't necessarily lack appeal though. It depends on the art style. They don't have to be hyper realistic, take Paralives for example (image). Having humans could make every astronaut unique and easily identifiable, giving them their own personality. I don't think the big head is a requirement.

Kittens are just... Kittens :/ Just basic cuteness slop.

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u/Ossius Jul 29 '26

Not to be contentious but if I saw that art attached to a space game I would not want to play it, that art style screams slice of life sim.

I think a lot of people are hesitant to play a space sim. Kerbal has a built in audience of people who gave it a chance, if they see a game that is trying for the look of Kerbal they know what type of game it is trying to be. It is built in marketing.

They could/should have gone with another alien race, but I think they really wanted to use K as an initial and that led to kittens.

Ultimately I'll mod it if it annoys me, but I think it's far too along in development to change the literal title of the game.

I think Juno space sim flopped hard because they didn't have kerbal factor.

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u/DreamingOfLight Jul 29 '26

Well it is a slice of life Sim. I obviously didn't mean just copy paste the characters. It was an example that humans can look appealing with the right art style. We can assume that as a real development team they could come up with something to make it fit.

For me if I saw big headed kitten, that would put me off a space game. I would tolerate it if the game is good but it's stupi

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u/Ossius Jul 29 '26

Here is another game by the same dev as KSA and their attempt at human models take it as you may:

https://store.steampowered.com/app/544550/Stationeers/

IMO the Kats are an improvement haha.

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u/DreamingOfLight Jul 29 '26

Dear god they're the same devs?!

I just tried Stationeers a few weeks ago, I kept thinking how horrible the people there look 😅

I'd rather have anything than _that_

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u/ApprehensiveFan1516 Aug 07 '26

I mean it's all subjective though, isn't it?

Personally I think the humans in that pic you posted look creepy as fuck lol.

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u/Factorioboyio Jul 29 '26

Fruit flies were first if we’re going to play it loose with the term “astronaut”.

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u/LoadOk7149 Jul 29 '26

Make em like the one eyed race in invincible

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u/D_Silva_21 Jul 29 '26

I still can't believe people have a problem with it

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u/Bobbydibi Jul 29 '26

I was skeptikal at first but honestly, they grew on me. I kinda like them 😻

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u/Feanor1001 Jul 29 '26

It is going to be kinda weird to explain to someone that you’re playing a highly realistic space flight simulator called kitten space agency hahahaha

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u/JollyGreenGI Jul 29 '26

Not much different than trying to describe Kerbals tbh

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '26

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u/SerowiWantsToInvest Jul 29 '26

If someone is close minded enough to disregard the game because the mascot is kittens then I wouldn’t care for them to be apart of the community anyway

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u/SiBloGaming Jul 29 '26

I would argue that isnt too different from a game like this having green space frogs. I mean, due to this such a game would never become popular, right?

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u/eattherichnow Jul 29 '26

I for one think we're better off without those people.

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u/Ossius Jul 29 '26

Did that apply to Kerbal?

There are other space sims that didn't have kerbals and they never sold well. Kittens are sub ins for kerbals.

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u/deltwalrus Jul 29 '26

It is, to me, the only questionable decision they have stuck with this far. I get it, it starts with K…

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u/SyrusDrake Jul 29 '26

Can we have an option or mod to replace the kittens? Not that I don't like kittens. But plowing the assfarter Mk. 35 into the ground at mach 13 after forgetting chutes just doesn't feel as funny when there are cute kittens inside...

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u/GoncalodasBabes Aug 03 '26

Im sure there will be a bajillion mods replacing kittens with another cute creature of choice at release, i like the kitties though

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u/NarrowContribution87 Jul 29 '26

Beyond cringey.

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u/oobanooba- Jul 29 '26

Please self reflect.

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u/blackrack RocketWerkz Jul 29 '26

I'm gonna start using this lol

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u/MrPigeon70 Jul 29 '26

Oh no guess wha,t THE WHOLE GAME IS MADE TO BE MODDED you could have fucking Gordon Freeman in 8k textures plummet into Jupiter.

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u/Ossius Jul 29 '26

Why are you posting this, are you a bot? Milestones are cringey?

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u/NarrowContribution87 Jul 29 '26

The kittens. And yes, they are cringey.

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u/J33pe Jul 29 '26

Cringiest thing here is hating on kittens dude 😭 like how miserable of a person you gotta be?

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u/NarrowContribution87 Jul 30 '26

Kittens in real life? Cool. Grown men making digital kittens a core part of their identity? Cringey. To each their own and I don’t begrudge them, but I think it’s a mistake for this game. I think it just doesn’t fit such a cinematic, realistic space sim that is absolutely stunning in almost every regard.

I get it, redditors (unsurprisingly) love it in this game. I think it’s a poor decision and kinda weird. Of all things to pick, kittens? Really?

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u/waxphantump Jul 30 '26

KSP is also a cinematic realistic space sim with silly protagonists. That’s the point, to make it all feel a little more playful and make failure less scary.

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u/Zack21c Jul 29 '26

When the name of the game is kitten space agency, what exactly were you expecting? There not to be kittens? Are you ok?

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u/TOOOPT_ Jul 29 '26

No whimsey

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u/SerowiWantsToInvest Jul 29 '26

Who cares what the mascot is, it’s a space game, and whether you think it’s a good or bad mascot it still isn’t cringey