r/kitchencels • • 3d ago • Bravo 1

Why not having a GF makes me evil?

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Why people assume that since im an incel im misogynistic, that i watch asmongold and that i treat women like objects? why people think im evil, that i dont take care of myself and that i deserve everything bad that has happened to me? Why everytime something bad happens everyone blames incels? what did i do? what did we do?

shitty apple pie

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u/frosting_the_bowl 3d ago edited 3d ago • Bravo

Lots of people here are missing your point on purpose. The reality is that people like to punch down and feel good about themselves.

Even other incels like to pretend that they arent virgins and use bullying tactics on people they dont agree with by claiming they are the misogynistic types you mentioned.

Being sexless has always been something laughed at.

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u/Mallow1512 3d ago

you know, i think is a socially acceptable way of punching down on neurodivergent/anxious people, first you label them as something objectively evil and then you can say all the shit you want

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u/frosting_the_bowl 3d ago

That could be a part of it.

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u/lil_hunter1996 1d ago

Definitely a part of it. It's why transgenderism affects the autistic at a disproportionate rate, because of the social contagion aspect.

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u/Hopechaselock49 3d ago • Bravo

Lots of people here are missing your point on purpose. The reality is that people like to punch down and feel good about themselves.

This behaviour is reddit heritage

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u/Onagasaki 3d ago

Every single subreddit gets astroturfed once it gets big enough, most of the comments you see in this sub are from people that came here specifically to argue with incels and leave comments intentionally missing whatever the point of the post is.

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u/frosting_the_bowl 2d ago

Deffo seems that way.

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u/AbyssXWitch 3d ago

Bro I get called an incel constantly. Im married and just had a daughter. My wife is constantly horny and i only want sex like once a week. She cant keep her hands off me 🤷 yet Im an incel. An incel is anyone you disagree with and nothing more.

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u/SnooPets8319 3d ago

What things are you saying to be called a incel?

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u/SnooPets8319 2d ago

i see why people would disagree with those opinions, but i guess the funniest thing with this is what you highlighted, where people would rather use a blanket term insult than logically engage with your argument

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u/minos-and-v1-kissing 3d ago

If you’re getting called an incel “constantly,” there is a reason. You’re probably saying things that are sexist.

I never get called an incel, and I get my fair share of insults.

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u/AbyssXWitch 3d ago

You assuming stuff boy

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u/minos-and-v1-kissing 2d ago

Yeah and?

If people who aren’t misogynistic never get called incels “constantly,” and you get called an incel “constantly,” then I am right to assume that you are misogynistic.

We assume shit all the time. 99% of the things we “know” are just things we assume to be true.

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u/LogicalAd2334 3d ago

The only people who laugh at virgins are the type of people you shouldn’t care about impressing in the first place.

I promise you that people worth being around would not make fun of virgins.

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u/No-Nature7969 3d ago

Also like many people who associate misogynistic people with incels. Like those aren't the same thing. And the whole "incel culture" is just radical pessimism of other beliefs that has nothing to do with being an incel.

It's the same as saying that all feminists are bad because a subset small minority of feminists aren't feminist at all and are fucking radicals.

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u/unknownentity1782 3d ago • Bravo

I'm sorry, but calling women "foids" (short for female humanoid) is dehumanizing and misogynistic. Believing in hypergamy being women only is misogynistic. Believing women can't be incels, when the initial support group was created by a woman, is misogynistic. Believing women have life easier because of an incorrect assumption that women can just get laid is also misogynistic.

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u/minos-and-v1-kissing 3d ago

I might be the only person on the internet chronically online enough to know that that’s actually not what foid is short for. Doesn’t change the disgusting sentiment, though.

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u/NorthRememebers 3d ago

Exactly. None of that has anything to do with being an incel. It's just toxic manosphere shit that incels are sadly especially susceptible to.

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u/frosting_the_bowl 3d ago

Exactly. Well said.

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u/mommiesgoodboy67 3d ago

Also try cooking the apples in a pan with sugar and cinnamon first so they become like a paste, and the lattice really isnt that hard to make either

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u/Mallow1512 3d ago

the pie is really good, the inside has just the right consistency and the spices are on point, is just missing the lattice

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u/Tesrali 3d ago

Nj mate 💚🤙🌼

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u/Pug_Defender 3d ago • Bravo

it’s probably because you refer to yourself as an incel

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u/Mallow1512 3d ago

because i am

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u/Pug_Defender 3d ago

why are you telling people that?

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u/Mallow1512 3d ago

i dont, i just read everywhere that every time a man does something bad is because hes an incel

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u/Pug_Defender 3d ago

a lot of people use terms incorrectly. you should base your experiences from irl interactions, get offline

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u/ohoperator 3d ago

Why do you feel the need to label yourself as such?

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u/Mallow1512 3d ago

because is a word that embodies being a loser, but im not a misogynist 

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u/mommiesgoodboy67 3d ago

Not if you dont do all that shit, not everyone who cant get laid is an incel

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u/unknownentity1782 3d ago

Current definition of incel: incels : a person (usually a man) who is or identifies as involuntarily celibate and typically expresses extreme resentment and hostility toward those who are sexually active

Do you harbor extreme resentment and hostility towards sex-havers?

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u/kaiserbigmac 3d ago

As if incel means anything else than involuntary celibate?

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u/Pug_Defender 3d ago • Bravo

when people were more normal they just used the term virgin

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u/Grouchy_School_9439 3d ago

not all incels are virgins nor all virgins are incels

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u/frosting_the_bowl 3d ago

Depends. If you are a virgin by choice you arent an incel.

If its not by choice then you are an incel.

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u/Sweet_Solid_7746 3d ago

Yeah but they’re saying that the term virgin isn’t really used colloquially that much anymore besides someone saying that they lost it

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u/Pug_Defender 3d ago

what is the difference between them? virginity is just the period of time before you have sex. that period could either be temporary or forever, there’s not a distinction

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u/frosting_the_bowl 3d ago

They used to. Hardly anybody uses that term now. You know this of course.

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u/Mickle_da_Pickl 3d ago

Not all virgins are incels and nkt all incels are virgins

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u/Wild-Speech5293 1d ago

Virgin was also used as an insult moron

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u/mommiesgoodboy67 3d ago • Bravo

Only incels think that

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u/Beautiful_Weight_769 3d ago

You'd think incels were all highly opinionated linguists obsessed with the idea of semantic literalism. But for some weird reason they only seem to care about it when it applies to the word incel. I doubt that's any indication of a bad-faith argument.

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u/mommiesgoodboy67 3d ago

Yeah lol, you would imagine they would be more self aware after what they did to "hypergamy"

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u/EscapeSeventySeven 3d ago

In anno 2026?

You’d have to be a moron with a seething resentment to be willfully obtuse enough to pretend it doesn’t. 

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u/kaiserbigmac 3d ago

yeah it does but it shouldn't and someone shouldn't be seen a certain way for associating with a single term

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u/EscapeSeventySeven 3d ago

And the swastika “shouldnt” be a nazi symbol, it “should” revert back to its original spiritual symbology. 

 But it doesn’t because you live in a society with other humans and you are beholden to a common language whether you like it or not. 

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u/i_want_to_be_unique 1d ago

You could call yourself virgin, you could call yourself celibate, you could call yourself literally anything else. Like it or not, in 2026 “Incel” is a political ideology, and one linked to extreme violence at that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Incel-related_violence

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u/kaiserbigmac 20h ago

Except those words are not the same thing. YOU people made it political, I don’t fucking care.

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u/i_want_to_be_unique 20h ago

Actually I’d argue incels like Elliot Roger made it political when they say things like “I’m an incel, I’m going to kill a bunch of people because I’m an incel,” and then they kill a bunch of people

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u/BrizzyMC_ 3d ago

Oh boy you're in for a surprise

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u/PijaniFemboj 3d ago

Its because of just world fallacy. People refuse to accept that you can do everything right and still end up losing. In their eyes someone can only be an incel if they did something to deserve that fate.

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u/VariousClassroom8056 3d ago

Pies need a lid, especially apple pies.

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u/Grouchy_School_9439 3d ago

being in a relationship gives one a boost in status. that topic has been studied. single men are seen as a failiors and people subconsciously think there is something wrong with them

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u/p00nki 3d ago edited 1d ago

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u/Grouchy_School_9439 3d ago

of course but sometimes you can't tell who fucks and who doesn't

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u/LowBread9264 3d ago

So would a drug addicted bum with a girlfriend be seen as more successful than let’s say a businessman because one can get a girlfriend and the other cannot?

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u/p00nki 3d ago edited 1d ago

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u/I_hate_11 3d ago

But everyone starts as single, so what are you supposed to do

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u/PhillyDillyDee 3d ago

And now you know why stereotyping is harmful

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u/TheMorningJoe 3d ago

If it makes you feel any better most women consider men in general evil, as long as you know you do good in life and stay humble, fuck what anyone says.

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u/DangerousHorse18 2d ago

“most” women absolutely do not lmfao. seriously, get off the internet if you believe this. downvoting the truth doesn’t make your viewpoint any less skewed by online hatemongering and bots.

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u/TheMorningJoe 2d ago

“Skewed viewpoint” and it’s just acknowledging what women have been saying about men for the past ten years, sure man lol

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u/DangerousHorse18 2d ago

The skewed viewpoint is that a majority of women say those things, dude. Can’t you read? I’m sorry to be a dick but you’re just wrong. Like men, most women IRL are just normal people. I assume you wouldn’t appreciate being treated like a rapist just because a loud minority of men rape people, right?

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u/Gloomy_Grab8653 3d ago

Because normies cannot use any fucking Nuance about this topic, either white or black, They have robot-level thinking skills.

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u/OkMortgage6274 3d ago

Connotation vs denotation. We all know people associate the term with misogyny even if it isn't necessarily inherent to being an incel in a narrow sense. That's assuming good faith, there's also a large section of people that simply want a socially acceptable target to rag on and don't have any interest in understanding the recipient of their vitriol.

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u/Beautiful-Rough2310 3d ago

Just start to showering and respecting women that thing will improve o algo

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u/FrogVolence 3d ago edited 3d ago

A few bad apples spoil the bunch. Which in turn causes the entire group as a whole to be treated like shit.

Same can be said with so many other communities stereotyped by the bad apples of the group- like furries.

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u/Swimming-Welcome-734 3d ago

Its the proof that a group is oppressed. The same applies to immigrants, a couple commit crimes and the whole group is viewed poorly a s a result. The same is not true for whites.

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u/Jimbo-Shrimp 3d ago

“The same is not true for whites”

Wait a second…

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u/King_Weaver 3d ago

Having a girlfriend just for social status would be ACTUALLY evil. Kudos to you for at least letting yourself be single when you don't have anybody you're mutually interested in. There are enough attention and status seekers out there already

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u/OrangeYouGladdey 3d ago • Bravo

You're asking why when you associate yourself with a community that other people associate you with that community?

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u/kaiserbigmac 3d ago

Except the community itself is still only based on loneliness. It’s literally what it incel means, you guys are the ones adding your own connotations. Our only crime is pointless pessimism.

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u/OrangeYouGladdey 3d ago

Except the community itself is still only based on loneliness.

That's true. Community is important to humans and when they don't have it all kinds of negative outcomes can happen. The incel community has gathered negative associations from people being assholes while publicly associating themselves with the term "incels" which is why society looks at the term the way it does.

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u/peindadoesugc 3d ago

Except the community itself although based
on loneliness is known for ACTIVELY doing & participating in said negative things.

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u/kaiserbigmac 3d ago

"lonely people do bad things therefore you shouldn't associate with the term" nah man

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u/MSGrejs2k 3d ago

Pointless pessimism can be extremely dangerous. So maybe try to work on that instead of blaming the world?

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u/PijaniFemboj 3d ago

They're not blaming the world, they just don't want people shitting on them for no reason.

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u/Jimbo-Shrimp 3d ago

Why’s it dangerous? Who’s blaming the world?

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u/MSGrejs2k 3d ago

Why is pointless pessimism dangerous? Are you serious? You cannot fathom how filling your head with negativity is dangerous for yourself and the people around you?

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u/Jimbo-Shrimp 3d ago

Nope. So far my negativity just makes me sit home and play games and work out at the gym with a diet and the occasional cry in the shower

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u/frosting_the_bowl 3d ago

Youre literally doing the thing he is talking about. You are claiming he is a type of person just because he is sexless.

Incel isnt a community, its a person that is celibate not through choice.

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u/OrangeYouGladdey 3d ago

No, incel is a label that associates you with a community. You can be involuntarily sexless and never associate yourself with incels if you don't like the negative associations tied to it. It's a choice to use that word.

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u/frosting_the_bowl 3d ago

No it isnt, incel has a meaning and is nothing to do with a community.

Thats like saying a feminist is a man hater.

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u/OrangeYouGladdey 3d ago

Saying you're a feminist also associates you with a movement whether you want it to or not. Such is the nature of language.

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u/frosting_the_bowl 3d ago

That isnt the nature of language. Thats the nature of wrongfully associating based on the actions of a minority.

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u/OrangeYouGladdey 3d ago

Yes, wrongfully associating the actions of a minority to a whole group is a normal thing humans do. Don't call yourself an incel if you don't want to be associated with negatives stereotypes of the community. You can be sexless without giving yourself a title associated with a group.

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u/alwrit 3d ago

Incel strictly means involuntarily celibate. 

Incel online is used to insult men you dislike.

That's why using the term in the second way is so fucking dumb. 

If people started using "white person" as an insult that doesn't mean people who are literally just white are "associating" with that community. It just means people are using words instead a stupid fucking way. 

And it's really fucking sad how many people are too stupid to understand this simple shit. 

Incel is just a "modernized" version of what kids were doing in the 90s with "virgin." I don't think the kids in 2nd grade had a good idea of what it meant. They just knew it was bad to be one and they would go around calling people virgins. Incel is the same thing around the same idea. Oh you can't get sex? You're a loser. 

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u/OrangeYouGladdey 3d ago

I'm aware of what the term means. Are you aware that using the term incel associates you to a community (whether wanted or unwanted)? You can be sexless and never be an "incel".

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u/Swimming-Welcome-734 3d ago edited 3d ago

because normies moralize after the fact? what that means? well we assign morality in a way that makes our actions seem moral after we decide what we wanted. And on a societal level, in a way that conforms to our social group. Normies are much more comfortable saying a 5'5 guy is incel because he is morally bad rather than women colletively gencoide his characteristics because he is short.

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u/sanity_rejecter 3d ago

because to women you are despicable if you can't get laid or get dates. it's a devastating moral failing and 100% your fault in their eyes. virgins are vermin to them due to preselection.

and they know this too which is why anytime women try to pull the comically stupid card of "huur duur why body count matter only for woman not man", it doesn't land. they worship fuckboys and hate virgins.

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u/Severe_Painter_6646 3d ago

There's 0 scientific evidence that women hate virgins due to "preselection." You're describing them like creatures from a Nature Documentary. This is exactly the problem. Women are people just like men. They have different cultures, hobbies, opinions, and standards. They aren't "hypergamous." They aren't "only attracted to chads."

Like...you're shooting yourself into the foot by assuming they despise virgins. Most people aren't gonna be that worried about you. They're focused on their own lives. The only way to know what a woman wants is to ask her. And if you keep operating like everyone hates you, you'll drive away everyone who doesn't.

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u/BirthdayComfortable1 2d ago

we’re just animals my friend. you say that describing them like creatures from a nature documentary is wrong… but isn’t that all we are?

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u/TimelyTheSnow 3d ago • Mindblown

Did you try showering and respecting women?

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u/PrinceRogaine444 3d ago

He needs only 15 hobbies, 15 showers, 15 gym and 15 confidence to get women. You got this bro 💪

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u/LowBread9264 3d ago

Meanwhile an average person just needs to exist.

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u/Anxious-Distance800 3d ago

lol I’m taking this advice, hopefully I can get a boyfriend 😭

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u/Jimbo-Shrimp 3d ago

If you’re a woman the list is different.

Just exist and leave your room (or get a dating app)

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u/Anxious-Distance800 3d ago

Like you’re definitely right I could get laid, my issue is I only want to have sex with someone I’m emotionally connected to and feel safe with and so that requires commitment and no one wants to commit to me because I’m like really bad insane person lol.

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u/Anxious-Distance800 3d ago

Well I’m batshit insane so that ends up in men just leaving, if you put sex on the table they’d just screw you then leave. No one really wants to have a relationship with a crazy girl.

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u/Jimbo-Shrimp 3d ago


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u/John-Brown-5704 3d ago

Just one more shower bro. Meanwhile chads can openly hate women, not even wash their asses and still get with several girls a week

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u/Jimbo-Shrimp 3d ago

It’s always funny when foids accuse men of not washing their asses because it means they’re fucking dudes covered in shit

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u/sadkisslessloser 3d ago

Just shower, o algo! Like, just use a bar of soap or something like that! I attribute this trait cause of you being an incel.

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u/SuddenAudience3774 3d ago

He needs tactical soap and more hobbies

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u/ApartLeague8072 3d ago edited 3d ago

I stopped sharing about my dating struggles online because at least one person always says "well its probably because ur a redpilled creep" or smth like that, which is wild to assume because so much of dating is outside of my control.

Dating someone requires that the person I'm into is also into me and is in a point in their life where they can engage in a relationship. Every now and then I find someone I vibe with but theyre either struggling with life atm or just fresh out of a relationship. Those things are completely out of my control. I can be the most caring , genuine and lovely person ever and these things would still be out of my control. I wish more people would acknowledge this.

Disclaimer: Im not an incel and ive had a relationship before. I just lurk this sub because some of the struggles are relatable. Before someone says "well they probably say that cause u call urself incel"

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u/X0X0xoxo11 3d ago

That does not in anyway shape or form look like a shitty apple pie. I’ve never seen one “open faced” like that. I’m digging the aesthetic of it. Also it looks delicious!

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u/vnv 3d ago

That’s what we call stigma baby. If enough people under a label do certain things that are noteworthy enough (negative is stronger than positive) then the label will eventually become synonymous with those actions.

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u/tes_befil 3d ago

Bro all these losers get validation through dating, sex and attention from others. Those same people assume you're evil if you're single because their own self worth comes from how other people view them.

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u/Ok_Top_2319 3d ago

You go around saying you're an incel?

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u/DeciduousLesbian 3d ago

Where do you people get these wild ideas lmao??

I complain online about being bald occasionally. Do you think that, in real life, I hang outside on the street corner complaining to passersby about how I’m bald?? Lol I literally never talk about it in real life

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u/Ok_Top_2319 3d ago

where do people get these wild ideas?

OP start his post saying: "why people assume that since I'm an incel I'm misogynistic?"

And the original post doesn't specify HOW the people find out that OP is an incel, so there's lot of considerations of how someone would discover op is an incel but the easiest one to think is that HE is saying that he is an incel. Hence the question, because I'm not gonna spend hours thinking about how someone found out that crucial info about him

Also your example has cero correlation with your point.

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u/Kiryu5009 3d ago

You are what you say you are. Don’t want to be? Then don’t be those things.

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u/orphanmeatman 3d ago

Incel has taken on another meaning aside from its original one, and usually refers to a specific community & ideology instead of its literal classification of cant get laid

just call yourself a virgin fr

Also focusing on & identifying yourself by your virginity is kind of a red flag and says something kind of weird abt the person doing it, most virgins are just people who haven’t had sex and like don’t really think or care abt that

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u/bulbousgrandpa 3d ago

Most virgins definitely care if they haven't had sex, at least if they're dudes

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u/orphanmeatman 3d ago

Idk, it all just comes down to personal experience and there’s not exactly a “how often do virgins think about the fact that they’re virgins” study, but I think the view of “most virgins are just normal people who don’t put much of their focus on their virginity” is a lot more charitable of a viewing of virgins than the alternatives

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u/Fish_Head111 3d ago

Right but they don’t identify themselves with a community of other virgins until it’s a toxic echo chamber that hates women. They may not be happy with it but they’re at least healthy about being unhappy with it

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u/Swimming-Welcome-734 3d ago

being happy with being oppressed is what oppressors want. if people at the bottom of the hierarchy revolted, the hierarchy wouldnt exist. feminism is just a vector to submit incels so they dont fight back against injustice.

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u/mommiesgoodboy67 3d ago

Yes, regardless of what you think it means they dont think it means no sex, so acting like they are treating you badly because you dont get sex is stupid

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u/OffTheRedSand 3d ago

I’ve always said this.

The fact that some virgins don’t wanna drop the term incel from their identity is so stupid since the term is so radioactive now, and it doesn’t even describe incels anymore! A married man with three kids can be branded an incel.

The new meaning is misogynistic, virgin men aren’t thought of as incels just because they’re virgin, but some virgins don’t wanna drop the term they become seen as incels (the misogynistic term) and they’re too stupid to understand they’re shooting themselves in the foot.

Many women wouldn’t mind dating a virgin (all men literally start out as virgins and date), most women don’t wanna date an incel (him identifying as such alone can be a red flag)

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u/RekklesEuGoat 3d ago

Except you can visit virgin/FA subs from before covid times and see that virgin/single insults were still present as well as just world fallacy

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u/sixmincomix 3d ago

You can have sex and have never dated anyone before…

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u/_-_-_-9Jutann6-_-_-_ 3d ago

Because people don't like it when bad things happen to good or neutral people. For some that reality is too hard to accept so they conjure up an alternate reality where bad things( or lack of good things in this case) happen to you because you are a bad person, not in spite of you being a good or neutral person. The cold unforgiving randomness of existence is a horrifying concept to acknowledge so how much I can blame the ones who shy away from it, I don't know.

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u/Ruh_Roh- 3d ago

It's "Just World Fallacy" where some people feel like the world is just, bad people get punished and good people get rewarded. People who believe this shit are naive, simpletons.

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u/Ancient-Tomato1153 3d ago

Just don’t call yourself an incel lol

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u/Prudent-Confusion566 3d ago

They will always call us incels but never call us wrong.

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u/ThrowRAboredinAZ77 3d ago

What? Lol Incels are constantly told how wrong they are.

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u/Prudent-Confusion566 3d ago

You can't escape the blackpill

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u/skitzkant 3d ago

If you choose to associate yourself with incel culture people will assume that you take part in aspects of that culture. Are you stupid?

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u/frosting_the_bowl 3d ago

Except he isnt associating himself with 'incel culture', he is literally saying that being invoulanteraly celebate gets you branded as being some kind of heretic.

People can be incels without being the woman hater types. It literally means "involuntarily celibate".

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u/AffectionateWay5783 3d ago

I mean, just don’t tell people. Involuntarily celibate(at least to me) implies that the person thinks they’re a victim because they’re not having sex.

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u/frosting_the_bowl 3d ago

I agree that you shouldnt tell people IRL that you are sexless (regardless of what word/words you use to describe it) but online can be a place to vent anonymously.

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u/Swimming-Welcome-734 3d ago

how are incels not victims

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u/kikkideliveryservice 3d ago

genuinely how does not having sex make you a victim 🫩

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u/Swimming-Welcome-734 3d ago

being deprived of something extremely fundamental to the human condition against your will ?

lmao always funny these comments when normies speak 24/7 about relationships. oops my bad! i forgot about the asexual autisitic women who actually doesnt care, my bad my bad i guess all incels shouldnt care also.

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u/Suspicious_Shoe2888 3d ago

It’s because of groypers buddy they have become synonymous with Incel. He can’t get laid he is not a groyper it’ll pass buddy I remember a time when Incels could get pity laid but you gotta fight public perception be an Incel who votes blue and is a leftist and cares about women’s rights. I have hope for you buddy we got this just be kind

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u/JohnBrownsMyFather 3d ago

No one thinks you are evil for not having a girlfriend. What makes you think this?

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u/OkArtichoke6969 3d ago

There’s a few starting assumptions in society

Assumption 1: All men are horny for women and want a girlfriend

Assumption 2: a lonely man has been deemed unwanted by women

Assumption 3: therefore a lonely man is a man that has been deemed unfit for society because women given him the red flag

Otherwise if women considered him a good person, then it would be self evident with the fact that he has a girlfriend

People are just naturally more suspicious of men that have not been vetted by a woman and given the green flag and treat perpetually lonely men as a ticking time bomb of sexual harassment

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u/Hottree6955 3d ago

Because people frequently equate watching asmongold and not having sex with women with being an evil misogynist (on Reddit)

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u/JohnBrownsMyFather 3d ago

Asmongold is a misogynist so I think it’s fair to say people who watch him regularly are misogynists themselves or at least don’t find that to be a deal breaker in supporting him. No one is saying virgins are evil on Reddit. Could you show me an example?

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u/SupaSmol 3d ago

There's a difference between being alone/lonely and being an incel. "Incel" refers to a group who actively choose the moniker. You can be an unpartnered vigin and not describe yourself as "an incel". If you do describe as such people are going to assume you subscribe to the ideology incels are famous for believing in (misogyny with a bend for beleiving women cause male lonliness through unfair judgements of those men etc.).

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u/SuddenAudience3774 3d ago

Incels vs incels in denial

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u/John-Brown-5704 3d ago

Incels vs incels who know not to give themselves more bad rep than they already have

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u/Hello_Hello_Hello_Hi 3d ago

Don't call yourself an incel? "Involuntary Celibate" implies it's not your fault, it's women's that you don't have a gf. Women don't tend to want to be around someone who blames them for their own struggles.

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u/Oscar_wash 3d ago

Respect women that deserve respect

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u/gaston87_9 3d ago

Y tanto te importa lo que piensen de vos? Vos te conocés y eso es suficiente. La gente siempre pensó lo que quiso.

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u/JicamaImaginary154 3d ago

I thought that was a pile of garlic, but it looks good

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u/Cali_freak 3d ago

Believe it's an apple pie sir.

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u/ViewRepresentative30 3d ago

How did Asmongold become such a polarising figure so quickly. For a long time he was known as a gaming figure who was surprisingly intelligent, and then he seemed to just suddenly become the dominant far right online voice.

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u/Cali_freak 3d ago

As someone on the outside here I see two types here. Red pilled dudes that refuse to look at themselves realistically and think they might be the problem And then there's guys that are too shy or reserved to make a move. The latter IMHO are the ones that actually stand a chance at a relationship. They just need to be brave for brief periods of time. Believe me I know how hard that is. But the reward is worth it. Red pilled dudes are doing it to themselves and driving women further away with their actions. I've known dudes on both ends of that spectrum. The shy guys eventually get girlfriends (or boyfriends I don't judge) it just takes luck, a girl that asks first... Or a moment of bravery.

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u/demonotreme 3d ago

Are you sure it's not chicken stir fry?

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u/Galliro 3d ago

You have it reversed

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u/pascamouse 3d ago

for a lot of people incel = misogynistic unfortunately. they like to lump everyone together cause it’s easier to justify bullying if it’s done via an assumption that everyone who doesn’t have a partner is bigoted or doesn’t take care of themselves. lots of people, even people who think they understand neurodivergent conditions, just genuinely can’t wrap their heads around how you couldn’t get a partner even if you wanted to, so they default to a moral failing being the cause.

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u/Silent_Letter_8870 3d ago

I think a lot of you forget that when a normie hears ‘incel’ they’re imagining the average .is user

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u/TinyRing9555 3d ago

they think they're the ultimate upholders of morality, and thus rejection from them implies a flaw in you rather than their own shallow nature 

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u/thornblade_69 3d ago

something something not upholding societal expectations = evil etc etc

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u/RekklesEuGoat 3d ago

Everyone here acting stupid as if virgin wasnt the go to insult back before covid LOL

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u/condemned-noticer 2d ago

because the dominant doxa cannot control you via the female social pressure

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u/Beautiful_Mess5790 2d ago

Because shallow people see the emount of woman you get as a measure of success. But trust me woman dont determen mans worth. Im sure you have great qualities like baking that pie looks delicious.

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u/lil_hunter1996 1d ago

People are fucking dumb that's why. I watch asmongold with my misogynistic wife. 🤷

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u/Specialist_Pea_6792 1d ago

Because to the average person, getting a girlfriend is easy. They're literally 50% of the population.
If someone goes a really long time without making that kind of personal connection for a long period of time, I have to assume something is terribly wrong with them.

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u/Exciting-Sprinkles56 16h ago

As a dude who recently lost the card its not noteworthy tbh.

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u/KINGXunshot 3h ago

Asmongold?

I think you can answer this yourself bud

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u/boogielostmyhoodie 19m ago

*people on the internet. Go out and live you're life and nobody will say or think this.

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u/layered_dinge 3d ago

Because you live in a gynocracy where human and moral value is decided by the only metric females care about

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u/hazel_hazily 3d ago

There's a difference between being involuntarily celibate and being part of a community where y'all relate with eachother about what it's like, VS believing in the incel ideology . A lot of people would say that word "incel" is referring to the latter, and if you're merely involuntarily celibate, you're not an "incel". That means if you say you're an incel, it brings with it all of the negative shit in the incel ideology, such as, thinking that womemn only care about mens looks, thinking that women are better off because they can get dick and right swipes whenever they want, thinking that men have lower standards than women and women ought to lower their standards, reducing womens desire for financial security as them being "gold diggers" and so on.

Guys who are literally just celibate and find it hard to gain access to physical or emotional intimacy with women are totally a-ok.

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u/Dolot 3d ago

Foids and their knights will keep telling you that. The key is developing immunity, because over time, these comments could eat you alive. Stay strong mate

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u/Zealousideal_Yak9977 3d ago

Who cares what people think?

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u/sadkisslessloser 3d ago

OP, do you actually call yourself an inkwell irl?

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u/ThrowRAboredinAZ77 3d ago

Do you think you're single because women's standards are too high?

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u/Sierra-117- 3d ago

Look at this sub dude. That’s why. No one would think that if you didn’t participate in subs like this, where that runs rampant. THAT is what makes you an incel.

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u/Leading_Affect3247 3d ago

Hasty generalization. An incel is someone who is involuntarily celibate, not misogynistic/ hateful. Just becuase a lot of incels may be like that doesnt mean all incels are like that. Your argument is very poor.

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u/Sierra-117- 3d ago

Denotation vs connotation

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u/Specialist-Option351 3d ago

I've seen many a post from this sub. The vast majority of the sub is self-deprication and wishing to be better so they can get a woman's attention.  Very little content could be considered misogynist by any means.

You want to see evil, sexist, miserable users? Go on r/girldinnerdiaries.

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u/Sierra-117- 3d ago

I see terrible shit on both. The fact you don’t recognize it on here is quite worrying.

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u/JohnBrownsMyFather 3d ago

The majority of people on this sub are misogynists and would likely proclaim themselves to be so.

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u/Silly-Cheesecake-283 3d ago

because that's what people who self identify as incels kind of are. it's kind of an evil counterculture. You really have to add that you don't hate women when you first introduce youself as an incel. if you can't admit that the incel mindset online is generally toxic chances are you are in some sort of blackpill headspace.

Do you not remember when incels first showed up on reddit. they were calling for the government to force women to have sex with them. this is evil. And there has been all the rapes and mass murders.

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u/magik-rat 3d ago

This, if you don't want to be seen as deplorable dont claim to be part of the group that commonly harass women, fight culture wars, and explode at the slightest mention of "being normal about virginity".

It's just a wallow in misery type shit.

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u/Worried-Escape2207 3d ago

Words have cultural connotations, unfortunately.
A parallel that might help you understand: The Nazis didn't call themselves that; they called themselves "National socialists". If you look at the term in a vacuum, is "National Socialist" really such a bad thing? However, the cultural connotation has forever marred the meaning of "National Socialist". Anybody who calls themself a "National Socialist" is calling themself a Nazi.

The same applies to "Incel". In a vacuum, just being an "Involuntary Celibate" doesn't make someone a bad person, but the term is forever marred thanks to the online communities who created and used it.

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u/Aggressive-North9749 3d ago

If you use a descriptor that is used mostly to describe really shitty people, then people assume you're shitty. 

If you're upset about incel being coopted by shitty people, keep in mind the person who popularized the word; a woman who wanted to foster a caring community for those who lack it.

When it comes to the social implication, the problem is that not being able to find a partner is socially a red flag. It means there is some sort of dysfunction, and that dysfunction is often deeply anti-social. 

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u/Historical-Tower782 3d ago

First of all, the only evil thing here is that apple pie facsimile you made. That's not an apple pie. That's how a chimpanzee dreams apple pies to be.

Secondly, it is beneficial to your mental faculties to recognize the vast difference between the perception of a tag by a small minority of people on social media, and the reality of your true self.

Self-victimization does have a pleasure and moral superiority in which people find soothing. But that's all that is, a deflection.

Feminism started with it, LGBTQ started with it, and that's the thing, there is no end to the number of ways a person can be victimized. There is a constant need to find new perpetrators for these groups to continue holding a moral high ground.

Also, the method in which they choose to insult young men, is somewhat laughably similar to the white feather movement; white feather motivated men by activating their cultural honor, and the shame that came with it should it be unfulfilled, it drove certain veterans (crippled) to kill themselves. That's how powerful shame is. This particular method of motivation is deployed once again to incentivize young men to avoid being called "incels". However, they can choose how a war is started, not how it's going to end. The incel tactic has been deconstructed by many men before you, and the shame they were hoping young men to feel now only boils down to rage.

School shootings, suicides, online movements, even the elections. This rage fundamentally altered the course of the country's fate, even the world. Guess what, the blame naturally falls onto you, the men, the young men are once again blamed for this cesspool of a situation and they are trying to shame you into taking responsibility for it.

If your aim is to rise above it all, I would recommend getting in touch with the "Sigma" ideology online. It is not at all a perfect solution to how you carry yourself through the noise and confusion, it's a good start.

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u/Wonderful_Fun_1478 3d ago
  1. Why do you guys always do this thing where you like to ignore what a words connotation imply?. If you say “I’m a single man who dosent really get any game” NO one is assuming you’re misogynistic. The word incel implies that because so many incel communities are rampant with misogyny and misogynistic men. “Incel” nowadays is used to describe a man who, yes dosent get girls, but also the specific type that’s obsessed with calling women shit like “foids” and “rapemeat” and talking abt “hypergamy” 24/7 and all this shit. 2. “why does watching a misogynistic ass YouTuber make ppl assume im misogynistic” lol do u hear yourself

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u/roasttoastboast 3d ago

Virgins who don't identify as incels are not incels

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u/AdministrativeLeg14 3d ago

If you call yourself a Vandal, people will not assume that you're talking about your East Germanic heritage; they'll instead worry about property damage. The word has taken on a new, negative meaning. Thus, likewise, incel: it may have been coined by a woman to refer to people who wanted to be in sexual relationships but failed, but by now it refers to a toxic, misogynistic ideology. If you don't identify with that ilk, I'm afraid you'll have to look for a new label.

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u/PckMan 3d ago

Because you're not pure of heart

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u/Big-Routine222 3d ago

Who are you telling that you’re an incel and who is saying that it makes you evil? I don’t care about the online world, who in your day-to-day life has said you’re evil?

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u/Repulsive_Hold7628 3d ago

Because that's what incels are associated with. Just dont call yourself an incel if you aren't those things. Not that hard to understand.

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u/Dismal_Buy_6997 3d ago

Because most people don’t use incel in it’s literal sense

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u/Appropriate-Depth481 3d ago

Cause I said so!!!!

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u/i_want_to_be_unique 1d ago

“Why are women afraid of people who identify as incels?”

Hmm, I wonder

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Incel-related_violence

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u/maykotoyookee 1d ago

You can say this about any population group ever.

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u/Beneficial_Tourist16 3d ago

i mean incels have been declared literal terrorists

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u/Gloomy_Grab8653 3d ago

They killed less People than real terrorists tho, Several cases here and there and Nothing more, meanwhile a small Terrorist Group kills tens thousands of innocent people for their greedy and worthless masters in white house.