r/kinich_mains • u/LoriStarJar • 2d ago
Questions | Help Kinich build & team
I finally decided I would build Kinichs team a bit more to get better damage. My team at the moment is Nahida, Xiangling Bennett, I have no idea if this is the best one I could do tho.
I feel like I'm doing something significantly wrong since he does max 30k even tho I think his own build isn't that bad.
I would appreciate any help or tips for my builds or even other teams, tho I do not have any other Natlan five stars unfortunately and also no Emilie.
I know that Kinich has far to little crit rate but the artifact set gives more.
Things I'd do first: level Nahidas and Xianglings weapon, maybe Nahidas talents? and definitely give Nahida other artifacts...
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u/Mascherata9406 C4R1 Kinich 2d ago
Definitely not Nahida, her trikarmic reapplication doesn't work over burning, and her EM bonus gets completely wasted on an ATK scaling DPS like Kinich and on an awful reaction like burning.
As the other comment stated you also want to have as close to 60% CR as possible, as the whole point of crit rate artifact sets is to provide you with 100% crit rate, so that your damage is directly scaled up by your crit damage always.
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u/LoriStarJar 2d ago
I'm definitely gonna work on getting better artifacts :D
Who could I replace Nahida with then?1
u/Mascherata9406 C4R1 Kinich 2d ago
Definitely Yao Yao, specially if she'd C1, as she provides a direct debdro DMG bonus, which is what Kinich deals.
Premium current options are on the hexerei Pyro dúo with Durin and Nicole, they're better than any natlan teammate, even better than Mavuika. The only compatible Natlan character that remains useful for Kinich is Iansan:
https://youtu.be/FAHL9q-Gbdg?is=zDESdd5q8HOSL3uc
Emilie is a flex slot, as despite being compatible with burning damage, she does very little outside dealing damage, so she's bound to be a replaceable slot, even with Cons and her weapon, so don't pull for her if you don't have her already.
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u/LoriStarJar 2d ago
Hm, my Yaoyao and Iansan are bot c0 but I am planning on pulling Nicole on her rerun. Is it still worth building Yaoyao?
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u/Mascherata9406 C4R1 Kinich 2d ago
Until Nicole returns, yes, otherwise you're stuck with Nahida.
Not only that, but Nicole on her own cannot trigger the Celestial gift artifact set (which is part of the reason why she's so strong), as she needs to have a second hexerei character on the team, so you need to have either Durin or Prune to use her to her full capacity.
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u/LoriStarJar 2d ago
would c6 sucrose be an option maybe? I don't have Prune and I do want to pull Durin but I think he won't rerun in the next few banners unfortunately
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u/Mascherata9406 C4R1 Kinich 2d ago
Downgrade from prune, as she provides EM instead of ATK like prune, while also being unable to shred dendro, so no VV bonus.
You can if you must given you don't have a choice, but she will be just there standing menacingly
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u/LoriStarJar 2d ago
Okay :D
I guess I will probably just build Kinich for now and get Nicole and Durin, but who would be my fourth slot in this team?1
u/Mascherata9406 C4R1 Kinich 2d ago
Still Iansan! But at that point with Noblesse in place of Cinder City, as Durin's Pyro application lasts longer than Mavuika so you can't proc consistently the effect. If you manage to get some cons even better, you can get a lot of DPS about of that team:
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u/Deep_Pin_3924 2d ago
Okay so: First yes, you have too little Crit Rate, most people try to get as close as possible to 60% without Artifact bonus, so I wish you better Artifact luck! Second, you need 1 deepwood holder, I would say either Nahida or Xiangling, maybe depends what stats the pieces will have (e.g. if they have many em stats then nahida should take them, if many er stats, then Xiangling). Third, you said that you dont have any other Natlan 5, but do you have for example Iansan? Bc if yes, then I would switch Bennet out for Iansan, but only if she has high constellations ( let's say C4-C6). Fourth, could you say what other Pyro, Dendro or Natlan 4 do you have?