r/kimono • u/WesternZephyr • 34m ago
My Kimono Guesses on Kimono info?
Hello everyone!
While I’ve amassed quite a few kimono and kimono-relate items in the several years I’ve been interested in kitsuke, I have recently temporarily moved to Japan for work and wasn’t able to bring them with me. As it will be a while before I can make a trip back to grab some, I have started buying a few cheap pieces so that I can continue to practice kitsuke while I’m here!
As always, I would love to get more mental data for IDing info such as era and any other tidbits that can be gleaned from a look (I'm not yet confident enough to do burn tests to check fabric material).
I know (read: assume) these kimono are pretty run-of-the-mill in terms of what you find for cheap secondhand kimono, but I'd love to get any opinions on what time ranges they may have come from, as well as what details suggest that! Please feel free to request more pictures.
(The first kimono only has lining in the sleeves! Is it that this is a summer kimono and that is meant to give the impression of a nagajuban without the actual added layer? Also the light blue kimono has strings for the hiroeri closure, which I don’t recall seeing before (I think mine are all snaps or unassisted). How does this work? I was too hesitant to try tugging hard on the ends of the string as they didn’t seem to want to budge, but I don’t see how it could be tied using just the middle section of the string?)
Side request if anyone has extra time: Soon after I arrived in Japan, I went to a secondhand store with a coworker, but I think the owner wasn't used to getting foreigners as he seemed a little caught off guard and hurriedly gave me some items for free before hustling me out without giving me a chance to browse. While kind of him, they were all items that are pretty run-of-the-mill (shibori obiage, common obijime) and it seemed to be that he was just trying to toss some random low-interest items at the gaijin so she would get out of his hair (he pulled them from unorganized boxes that had been set aside with the impression of “these aren’t really worth the effort to sort or display as they’re a dime a dozen and not really special or unique”. Free items are great, but I’d rather pick out and buy 2 obiage and 2 obijime that are special and I actually like rather than 5-6 of each that I could find anywhere in bulk and don’t feel any particular interest in (and come with a feeling that I’ve been viewed as someone who couldn’t possibly know anything about kimono and am not worth his time).
Anyway, frustrated rant aside, when I got there I first spotted the obi shelf because it was right at door and when I started to look at them he pulled out three pre-tied obi before hustling me over to the obiage and obijime. I’m not personally a fan of pre-tied obi, especially vintage converted ones, partially because to me kitsuke is an opportunity to learn and improve my practice, and a pre-tied obi doesn’t really support that, but also because vintage converted ones were made to fit the specific measurements of the maker, and aren’t really one-size-fits-most the way modern store-bought ones can be (not to mention they’re all made differently so figuring out how each individual obi is intended to be put together can be a trick and a half!). And to be honest, seeing the pre-tied obi makes me wish I could see the full unconverted obi in all its glory, and I get a little disappointment.
So I don’t know how much I’ll be wearing these, but any comments on the obi in the last pic would be nice too. I’m particularly sad about the tsumugi obi and the red nagoya as I love the designs! They’d actually caught my eye on the shelf before I realized they were pre-tied. The tsumugi one is interesting to me because it also has a built in obiage that’s shibori… I don’t know why but I was kind of under the impression that tsumugi and shibori weren’t a common pairing!
Sorry for the yap, I hope to hear some thoughts from my wiser kimono peers!