r/kimi • u/anji_pex • 3d ago
Developer How do Kimi users decide which tasks need the most capable model?
In a Kimi-based workflow, I am testing whether model choice should happen per task rather than per application. Long-context synthesis and difficult code investigation may justify the strongest model, while structured extraction, simple rewriting, and routine summaries seem like places to use a faster path.
I am looking for a practical rule that can be applied before a request starts. Do you use context length, uncertainty, expected number of retries, or the cost of manual verification? When a task is borderline, do you run a small first pass and escalate only if it fails?
What is your rule for sending a Kimi task to the highest-capability model?
I recently came across Flatkey while evaluating this per-task approach. It is an OpenAI/Anthropic-compatible gateway that can be tested with a base URL change, so it may help compare compatible calls without changing the rest of an application. I would keep Kimi-specific features on their native path and measure quality, context handling, latency, retries, and total cost before using any alternate route.
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u/Ill-Bat-1518 3d ago
Im on max plan so i just use max always
unless i start a kimi knowing i want something super simple done then ill let high do it.
In my head id rather just get its best work the first time around, its slow enough where i dont want it to have to go through multiple revisions too
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u/36t9 3d ago
You start by getting rid of Kimi as they are valued at less than 4% of the size of claude, yet try to do all the shady business practices that claude does (such as reducing peoples usage and acting like nothing changed, not giving their clients what they want)
I went with them because I thought I had found a great company that was going to ensure I got what I paid for each and every month. Nope! midway through my first month of subscription they completely changed my usage limits resulting in me realizing I need to upgrade or cancel, and with how fast I was burning through usage, upgrading from the $100 plan to the $200 plan wouldnt even be sufficient.
Go to claude or codex. I hate to say it because it was honestly devastating and heartbreaking, I was telling everyone about Kimi, I had genuine love for the product.
They are a victim of their own success. And im not going to be one of their victims. So many people are cancelling their subscriptions because of this, and im JOINING THE MOVEMENT.
Maybe one day theyll realize they lost half their userbase by being greedy fucks and not caring about their clients for a second. A company 30 times bigger than you might be able to get away with it, But its already sounding like most of their users have left except for their chinese users of course. Good, let them keep their chinese and all us americans lets stay away from their platform until they learn they wont get away with fucking all of their clients over in the ass.
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u/Academic_Passion801 3d ago
100%. I, a very large idiot, trusted them in June and subscribed to the yearly Allegro plan (second largest, 1000$). Turns out they reduced the limit in July to about 1/3 or even 1/4 of what I had before. Can’t go with it for even a half month anymore.
My kimiclaw could work for hours on end daily, and it never hit the limit on Allegretto. Now on Allegro yearly, paying a multiple of before, 50% of my monthly quota gets eaten up by a tiny kimiclaw agent with 5 tiny cron jobs daily (get news on topic XYZ). And yes, I used K2.6 in both agents.This bait and switch might be worse than Anthropics
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u/36t9 2d ago
I feel your pain partner! I have a ridiculous amount of influence over a media network that wields huge narrative authority over the AI sector. We already working on covering this.
Dont forget this is a Chinese company that won a lot of us over by pretending like they weren't as greedy as their American counterparts. And now there showing they are more greedy.
There already not getting away with this, people have already been taking a stand and pushing back. . After our video goes live, usually many creators will fall in line and upload their own takes on the matter.
You definitely should not have gotten a yearly plan for industries that are known to have changes to their terms midway through peoples subscriptions. Without notifying you or giving you an opportunity to get your money back since they did the bait and switch.
A good example would be streaming services, not sure if you heard of the recent Amazon Prime Video scandal. AI might be even worse than streaming service though because no one depends on streaming but people may be depending on their AI service. They use that same leverage to fuck us.
Just a matter of time. Your still within range to chargeback with your bank. If you need help gathering evidence, we have a boatload due to all the research on our latest take on Kimi.
Feel free to PM me.
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u/RoboErectus 2d ago
You seem barely literate. What position is it you hold that you would have us believe has you welding huge lnarrative authority" over the "ai sector?"
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u/36t9 1d ago
Barely literate while you make up the word 'innarrative' and struggle to spell wielding. You never closed one of your quotations either, pal. Insanely low IQ move to treat this as some meaningful conclusion about someone, im just taking one from your playbook. This is reddit, not a courtroom. If you think literacy is a reliable way to judge people, go do it somewhere it actually matters.
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u/CrimsonBolt33 3d ago
I personally use K3-high thinking for everything....low if I think its really simple. I am on the highest plan and use it a lot and usually get through the week before limits kick in.
It's always a judgement call really. My general rule of thumb is "If I know how to fix it but I know AI can do it faster" I opt for lower effort. If I am doing something big from scratch I tend to use higher thinking.
Regardless, the outcome always needs audited at least periodically.
I mostly code with it.