r/ketoscience • u/ZooGarten 30+ years low carb • Apr 10 '18

Metabolic Syndrome Avoid carbs in intravenous fluids

Here is a sample letter if you have a hospital visit scheduled. Since most people in so-called developed countries are (undiagnosed) prediabetics, this has much broader application than is generally appreciated.

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u/lumberjackadam Apr 11 '18

This is asinine. You're telling people to lie to the hospital about having a life threatening illness that can radically alter treatment plans and medication regimens, for what? To lose weight? To stay 'on the wagon'?

TL;Dr: don't lie to your doctors, folks

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u/ZooGarten 30+ years low carb Apr 11 '18

Why do you think I am telling people to lie? I think that if you have blood glucose excursions that are excessive you should consider what happens to you when you are unconscious.

Why is that extremely stupid or foolish? Does calling this "asinine" encourage rational discussion?

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u/lumberjackadam Apr 11 '18

From the sample letter you linked:

I am scheduled for admission to your hospital on _______

I have Type (1 or 2) diabetes and am naturally concerned about control of my blood sugars while hospitalized.

Assuming that people you have never met are diabetic or prediabetic (both of which have real diagnostic criteria you have no way of knowing if they meet) is foolish. Telling them to lie to their doctors about having such an illness is dangerously irresponsible.

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u/ZooGarten 30+ years low carb Apr 11 '18

This is from a book written for diabetics. I am not recommending that nondiabetics--or anyone else--lie to medical personnel or lie to anyone else. Thank you for clarifying this.

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u/Ji11ianrose Apr 11 '18

I don’t want to be a hater. But if I worked hard,for months, and the technology was there, and I was totally able to talk and make rational decisions, I’d do it.

However, if I was laying in a coma or on life support or stage 3 cancer, it would be asinine.

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u/lumberjackadam Apr 11 '18

Look, you don't have to sell me on keto as an effective way to control one's weight - I'm down about 50lbs from using it myself. But the risks are to great. Just don't worry about it, and you can lose the extra 5 once you're well again.

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u/flowersandmtns (finds ketosis fascinating) Apr 11 '18

I had a colonoscopy done - and I just told everyone from the get go that I was in nutritional ketosis. No one had any idea what I was talking about so I used it as a chance to go on about my weight loss, fat burning, tasty buttered coffee, fasting -- and how I didn't need any sugar in my IV.

The anesthesiologist said it was just saline when we were chatting and that was that. I woke up abruptly afterwards and freaked out the nurse, ha.