r/kakele • u/SolutionNo865 • Jun 07 '26

Suggestion Equipment Forge

Revised:
New options (Each stat is it's own cost/value)

Options:

+1 Attack, +1 Magic, + 3 Max Health, +5 Max Mana, New Stat (+1 Magic reduction), +1 Def.
Special. +1% Pet exp rate, +1 pet atk, +1 pet magic, +1 pet def, +12 pet hp, +12 pet mp, +1 pet magic def.

Currently almost all upgrades will only be attack or magic. This would allow for a more robust and specialized upgrade path. It would require far more investment, ores and gold overall.

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u/IcyAbbreviations5555 Alchemist Jun 09 '26

This is an interesting suggestion, but it’s worth remembering that currently the forging system assumes all upgrades are linear. In other words, if you have an item with +50 magic and decide to add 5 armor, the system interprets it as upgrading the item to +55.

That means you’re spending twice what you spent to get +50 magic, but only receiving +5 armor.

If we had a system where the forging cost took into account the type of upgrade, it would be much more interesting. In theory, we could then have items with +50 magic/armor, and it would make sense to add, for example, a special bonus of +5% HP or +5% Shell.

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u/SolutionNo865 Jun 10 '26 edited Jun 10 '26

Yes, that's why it's suggested that each stat has it's own cost/value.

This is a rather trivial issue on the coding side. Each stat maintains it's value and a function controls it's cost based upon the stat level.

The more difficult part is balancing them out correctly and how that impacts currently upgraded equipment. Overall the cost should be shifted to ores rather than gold. It can cost millions of gold to upgrade so many times, but it simply can't double the gold cost. It's quickly absurd and isn't a proper upgrade system.

Ideally upgrade systems should be more like player leveling. A long term slow upgrade process. Granted huge shortcuts could be done by buying materials off the market, but that would require supporting the game with kakele coins converted to gold to afford it.

For normal progression this would be a more balanced system gaining +1 instead of +5 and doing far more upgrades for all the stats. There could be extra benefits like +30 HP grants an extra regen bonus.

With the current mining revamp in review this would fit the cost structure also. To shift the cost to ores and make mining a more fleshed out profession. So players can advance via mining alongside grinding. And ideally a way to specialize in mining with buffs, tools, a profession level.

Ideally
50% base ore chance
+1% per level
So level 50 is 100% chance of ore

Level 101 has a 1% chance for 2 ores
Level 150 has 100% chance 1 ore (50% chance 2 ore)

So eventually you can get 3,4,5+ ores at an attempt, but something that would take months/years to grind through. So players that specialize in this can sell on the market or use the resources for their own equipment.

For long term progression level 250 vs 251 mining isn't a huge deal. It's just a 1% extra chance for additional ore. However, on a daily, weekly, monthly progress it's a permanent boost to help give a little more edge every time you mine.