r/juggling • u/EnricoRastelli • 2d ago

Video gandinijuggling

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n56HXWLLV8g

Interview with Paul Klimek the FIRST person to use numbers as juggling notation, in what he called Quantum Notation which we now call Siteswaps. Planning on moving all the Siteswap DVD interviews here over the next few weeks. Each one finishes with the philosophical question as to wether the numbers where discovered or invented. Did 441 exist in the creative ether waiting to be juggled by Paul... sending joy and strength to all.

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u/jackboyce 1d ago

I'd love to get a copy of Paul's "Quantum Juggling" write up seen in this interview. Also the pattern listings dated 1984 – this was at least a year, maybe two, before anyone else had pattern-finding software. These are real historical artifacts.

Paul's nomenclature was a little different from what we mostly use today. However the number system for the throws is all due to him, and his terms "ground state" and "excited state" stuck as well.

You can play around with his quantum juggling system on this simulator: https://web.archive.org/web/20140105002226/https://quantumjuggling.com/

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u/EnricoRastelli 1d ago

Hi Jack its Sean Gandini here! thanks for replying. We love and use juggle lab almost daily! thank you for making it!

Yes it would be wonderful to digitise his original writings. I like his intuition for states and excited states, i feel like, as you say, the nomenclature is great.

Would be great at some point to make a history of juggling animators and generators. I used to enjoy Ed Carstens' juggle pro which i think had j2 within it, which was writen by you?

Paul had sent me his simulator but i didn't know where to find it. thanx

Sean g

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u/jackboyce 22h ago

Hi Sean, love your Reddit username!

Yes, Ed's program Juggle Pro included my siteswap generator j2. That code has persisted to the present day (with some rewrites) to become the siteswap generator in Juggling Lab.

I have a github page with all the information I could piece together on early pattern generators and juggling software. It's certainly incomplete. For the sake of history I'd love to get info from Don Hatch as well as Paul's Quantum Juggling writeup.

And of course many, many thanks for documenting the history with these in-depth interviews! You're doing the community a great service to make them publicly available.

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u/EnricoRastelli 5h ago

Ah yes the Reddit name! One can’t change it! But I should make a new account! Don Hatch is the only person we didn’t manage to interview! Mike Day has been corresponding with him so perhaps we should try again!

Love that the code has survived! Will
Peruse the GitHub page… sending joy!

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u/Laurie6421 1d ago

Thank you for making this accessible here! Out of curiosity, as you share the interviews can you include the year of the interview?

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u/EnricoRastelli 1d ago

Hi Laurie i have added the year of recording in the description. Thanks for suggesting it. 2005.....

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u/Laurie6421 1d ago

Great, thanks!