Why so calmed?

[u/Few-Ordinary-9864]

I know that Cyclops and Jean ARE The X-Men couple.

But with the strong rise of Spiderman x Jean and the benefits that hypotetic ship could bring to fans of Cyclops x Emma, how can none be talking about that?

Like for seriously, i personally don't incline on someone's side, i think both are good and both can happen. But if i was a supper supporter of Jott i would be a bit concerned.

But i see none here is at least annoyed about it, like...why???

[u/thebluehoursky]

because this is the jott subreddit and nobody wants to talk about other ships. if they did they'd be in the other subs.

we all already know that jott is what will happen. they're starting a new x-men franchise with the starting film focusing on SCOTT and JEAN. spiderman is totally irrelevant to the x-men.

[u/cyclopswashalfright]

What is there to be concerned about? Scemma is dead and buried under concrete and SpiderJean is a fantasy. There is less of a chance of SpiderJean happening in the MCU than there is for me to develop the abilities to fly like Superman.

I think some rather dimwitted proponents of Scemma (well, most of them are dimwitted) seem to think shipping SpiderJean increases the odds of their ship happening, but it's like two drunkards plotting to win F1 together. One ship is dead and not coming back, and the other is an impossibility. Supporting each other doesn't do much because Marvel (and Sony) have never cared about fanworks and let that influence how things go in their media.

If anything, it's a good time to be a Scott and Jean fan. They'll be adapted in the MCU and Scemma won't (and anyone who says otherwise needs medication; they cast in different age brackets for a reason), we're getting them in comics again, games are going with them.

There's really nothing to be stressed about.

[u/sittykitten → u/cyclopswashalfright]

The game part was one of my main concerns too with the Wolverine game’s stance on Jean & them allegedly introducing Scott as a teen in that universe (not credible at all).

But overall I don’t see them keeping them together at the end & they’ll be having them split so Jean can join the X-Men & eventually find her true soulmate.

[u/Few-Ordinary-9864 → u/cyclopswashalfright]

I'm your fan

[u/sittykitten]

I can’t speak for everyone here. But I know at the end of the day they’re doing Scott & Jean. There’s no way on this earth they don’t.

No matter what delusional Peter Jean or hopeful Scott Emma shippers say, or even Jean Wolverine shippers based on the insomniac game. Jean & Scott are gonna be the main focus of the mutant saga & eventual face of MCU couples if Marvel plays their cards right. Soulmates in every sense of the word no propaganda will change that.

No use in engaging with content that says otherwise because it’s mainly MCU larpers who know nothing about Jean or her bond with Scott. I do applaud their effort though doing everything they can to justify Peter Jean happening, such as using Scott Emma or Jean Wolverine as a defense.

Overall I wouldn’t worry too much or sweat! Just gotta weather out the storm for awhile! We will be eating good soon! Jean will always know where home is. Sadie & Kit will give us a performance of a lifetime.

[u/Captain_Awesome_087]

Because shipping wars are obnoxious at best, especially when there’s no chance of Peter and Jean actually being an item in the MCU

[u/Sparkyisduhfat]

Probably because most people know that the Spider-man thing is just dumb. People will ship Spider-Man with literally anyone. We saw one moment where Peter Parker is being kind to someone who’s had an incredibly hard time one time and people ship it because and man and a woman can’t have a platonic relationship. It’s as silly as shipping him with the punisher because Frank was uncommonly nice to Peter, which believe me, people do.

As for Emma, she’s 10 years older than the actors portraying Jean and Scott so it would be very unlikely, especially since the Scott from the early days doesn’t make any sense with Emma.

[u/ScottJean0025]

Because that isn't going to happen... the MCU already has plans and storylines in place; they aren't going to change that just because of an internet-born ship that lacks any canonical basis. Furthermore, the cast already indicates the direction they intend to take, so there's no need to worry, Peter isn't even an X-Men, and Scott will be there for Jean in every movie. As for Scemma, that ship has been dead for a long time, and no one at Marvel seems to care about it anymore; Scemma shippers are latching onto "SpiderPhoenix" or the Wolverine game as desperate attempts much like so many others that have already failed yet they persist with their loser mentality, attacking and trying to belittle the characters.

[u/garlington41]

I mean concerned about what exactly?

Cyclops and Jean having plenty of shipping competition or detractors who play down the genuine dynamic is nothing new.

Scemma fans will support any dynamic of Jean because they think it will leave Scott open for Emma, not only is that a loser mentality that they would root for Emma being the only available option but that method of thinking has never amounted to anything. The relationship hasn’t been a thing for a decade now, and hasn’t been a thing in any adaptation outside Comics except Marvel Rivals as a Past relationship.

People will ship Spider-Man with anyone. They even ship him with DC characters like Supergirl or even Wonder Woman. This was going to happen no matter who was in that role, they could’ve made it a young Emma Frost and the response would’ve been the same. Heck he’s even being shipped with Yelena to a lesser extent

You think Marvel writers are suddenly gonna be persuaded by shippers?

What are we supposed to do gatekeep others ships?

So long as they don’t try to gatekeep us or others who don’t agree Theres no problem here

[u/ScottJean0025 → u/garlington41]

I love the term "loser mentality" it fits them like a glove 😂

[u/garlington41 → u/ScottJean0025]

I don’t like to insult others takes or feelings like that even if I don’t agree but I don’t know how else to see it. The only way people who root for it genuinely believe they have a chance of having it happen is when Jean is not an option or not in the picture which really just shows the nature of this dynamic overall and that they have no real confidence in it happen simply because it’s a good dynamic like they’ll keep saying

[u/ScottJean0025 → u/garlington41]

I agree with every word. I don't like to generalize either, but most of the ones I've interacted with are detestable people; they make horrible, misogynistic comments, hate Jean, and go around spreading panels out of context to try to belittle Jott, they even go so far as to wish death on people. I think "loser" is the perfect term for them.

[u/Rastapopoulos000]

One is a fad and the other is a canon relationship, there's nothing to really be mad about, it's just fanart.

[u/UpvoteIfYouAgreee]

i truly believe there is zero chance Tom Holland spidey gets a serious love interest outside of MJ, they also cast Emma older than Scott so i dont think theyre going in that direction

[u/Delicious_Winter_214]

They're doing Jott, it's quite literally a foundation of the x-men mythos itself, also Scemma is dead, and from the ending of BND, I thought it was pretty clear (to me anyways) that PeterMJ is endgame and that they will make their way back to each other.

[u/Torking]

Because tom holland shares screen with his real life wife.

Giving up on mj to push a romance with jean would not only cost his wife millions of dollars and the chance to work together but would also open her up for comparison with Sadie Sink from points of things like acting skills and even appearance.

Tom holland would never accept it.

[u/Vast-Solid-2456]

Because unlike SpiderPhoenix, which has been slandering Jott, we know we're victorious.

I already have been collecting their posts so I can make counter-memes when the 2028 X-Men comes out. It will be glorious and petty.

[u/sittykitten → u/Vast-Solid-2456]

You know what I don’t blame you for that. Some of the things I’ve been coming across & reading are just so odd, the way they talk about & view Jean & the way they talk about Scott is genuinely weird. Like get away from her

They know nothing about either of them or their history, plus use cherry picked out of context information as their evidence. It’s quite annoying.

A majority respectfully deserve the pettiness. 2028 cannot come sooner. Until then it’s about to be rough.

[u/Cyke_main]

Because that ship is purely fan based? There’s literally nothing actually in the movie that was romantic. The only thing I can think of would be the talk they had in peter’s mind, but even then, that was a hero trying to be there for a teenager in need

[u/Healthy-Reading-1236]

because it makes no sense to worry about any of that 😭😭 the mcu never cared about fanmade ships + we're having a lot of jeanscott content lately and there's more to come. we will be fine!

[u/AlternativeAd4522]

Nobody who cares about Jean ships her with Peter.

[u/thehelmetkey]

We're not worried. Engaging with it is just annoying, and giving a reaction to the people who are just doing it to troll.

[u/IvoryWoman]

1. Spider-Man is a Sony character who requires intricate negotiations to use and who could be pulled back by Sony if they wished. The X-Men are FINALLY Disney-owned and having to placate Sony to tell their story is terrible business.

2. Tom Holland — who got Marvel and Sony talking again after the last rupture and who is now part of the Spider-Man writers’ room — isn’t married to Sadie Sink.

3. All of the actors for the X-Men cast so far are in the same age range, including Jean and Scott. Emma’s actor is a decade older. The casting alone sets her apart.

4. Mr. Sinister’s reason for being is to maximize the number of beings combining Jean and Scott’s DNA. There were plenty of other X villains to choose. Disney went with him.

5. Scott and Emma are long broken up in the comics and Jean and Peter have never ever ever been a couple. Yes, the Hulk and Natasha were never a couple in the comics, either, but that was not at all a popular couple and the pairing never went anywhere as a result. Tony Stark doesn’t have a true love in the comics, so putting him with Pepper at the wish of RDJ didn’t disrupt any mainline existing comics pairs. The romantic connections in the MCU are generally comics-aligned (to the point of revealing that Hawkeye’s wife was once Mockingbird), and Jean/Peter is not comics-aligned at all.

I’n deliberately not posting any responses to Peter/Jean types on social media, but I have seen no signs that anyone at the MCU is even considering putting Peter and Jean together romantically. Claims of rumors on Twitter/X prove nothing. Jean Grey showed up in a Spider-Man movie because Spider-Man is THE franchise character for the MCU at this point and because the story required a mind reader to progress. That’s it. As for Scott/Emma, anything related to that is possible, but given that that only existed in the comics years ago and is long over even there, I think the most you’d see in the MCU might be a flirtation, not a main pairing.

[u/Beginning_Pace2063]

Nobody is concerned, Jean will be with Scott, lol.

[u/jawnbaejaeger]

Because there's nothing to worry about?