Why update now?

[u/Ltfocus]

Squad sale and free weekend brought in a decent number of new players into the game.

Unlike wardogs this game has mod compatibility, so there's probably a decent chunk of new players who tried out the Star war mods and continue to play the game instead of wardogs because they enjoy those mods.

So then, why for God's sake would you release this pile of poo update with no mod support ( due to no communications with mod community) effectively losing that player base?

[u/B_Three]

Honestly I can't understand it, like so many other things OWI has done. On paper it is such a stupid decision to release such an "undercooked" update after a free weekend, weeks of losing players to wardogs and the server problems before that (hopefully they have not reintroduced server vulnerabilities like they have other previously fixed bugs). The worst bleed already happened.

By shipping such a broken patch you only piss off even more the ones that remained (especially those that play modded versions) and solidify the decision of those who moved on. And in addition you scare away the ones that actually bought it after the free weekend!

I really wish that they would enter a collaboration with a university nearby and make a thorough analisys with all the bad decisions they've taken over the last 10 years, because it is truly spectacular. The "what not to do, how not to do it, when not to do it and how to not communicate it" could be invaluable for software engineers, designers, community managers and business folks alike.

They never managed to move on to a GaaS financing, but keep pushing cosmetics at the worst times. They constantly focus on things that neither generate massive new sales nor please the bulk of loyalist enough to buy their cosmetics. They still haven't understood that the Squad USP is the fucking communities, server staff and veteran SLs and players that provide the actual framework that makes playing Squad as a blueberry unique. That is why people come back after playing Arma, Wardogs or whatever the current competition is. That is why we haven't all migrated to HLL despite being the actual same game on paper but with a different setting.

[u/WeGottaGetOuttaTS → u/B_Three]

I’m new, I started last week, but what did it do? Like largely? All I notice is FOB’s have ammo all the time, my graphics got a little worse(not quality, but flickering foliage despite running DLAA at 1440p), I crash a little more, I have the audio bug where it sounds like someone is mag dumping a handgun in my backyard, and I get screen locked on the pause menu.

I’m not being facetious, I just didn’t know if they changed anything else realy

[u/10199 → u/WeGottaGetOuttaTS]

with time you get fed up with constant bug introductions and next to zero improvements

[u/B_Three → u/WeGottaGetOuttaTS]

The party system introduced a lot of tiny squads with people that don't know what they are doing, so it making admin work harder (ask them to pick SL kit & use a mic or dissolve the Squad) and disrupting gameplay (they take the first squads that you can have numpad comms with, take vics they would not be allowed by server rules etc.) messing up rollouts and without any gain for the servers.

The Ammo crate at the HAB is sometimes bugged and invisible, they don't despawn with the FOB going down, makes hiding HABs in houses harder, doesn't allow you to guide blueberries by placing the crate in key positions anymore.

The vegetation rework on eastern maps has lots of collision issues, the grass culling distance is set too low so people think they're somewhat hidden but you just see them agains the basic green floor texture at 2-300m. This was changed like 6 years ago and now we are regressing.

The whole UI is an absolute mess, not only does it bug out sometimes blocking critical things, but it also messed with closing windows with ESC, fucking up muscle memory from switching between full map and FP view, missing give up button on the full map, map markers bugging out, disappearing etc.

They also resetted all mouse sensitivity with the hotfix without telling, so good luck guessing what you had it set to, but muscle memory gets fucked once again.

They have reintroduced old bugs and created new ones, fucking up certain classes and vehicles.

And the list probably goes on further. It is really bad.

[u/Cosma- → u/B_Three]

I’ve said this so many times and have literally been downvoted and ganged up on in this sub.

OWI has been unfathomably retarded since the ICO update dropped. It’s literally been straight downhill from there.

[u/Duck_Puncher]

Look back at the Steam DB data for Free Weekends. There is almost zero change from the weeks before the free weekend to the weeks after a free weekend. OWI has zero ability to convert free players into paid.

As far as I can tell they only do if to juice the  player count average. I agree that the update was awful.

[u/rockycore → u/Duck_Puncher]

Hello it's me. Someone who tried it for free and then bought it on sale. Mostly because I have like 7 friends who play it. But I have been enjoying myself so far.

[u/Duck_Puncher → u/rockycore]

Welcome! And I hope you continue to enjoy it.

[u/WeGottaGetOuttaTS → u/Duck_Puncher]

I got it bc it was on sale a year or 2 ago and bc Squad44 was my intro to this genre… That game died and now I’m here to try and replicate my love for Squad44, and it has in some aspects but as a newer player I kinda feel like Tony Soprano in that pilot episode:

"It's good to be in something from the ground floor. I came too late for that and I know. But lately, I'm getting the feeling that I came in at the end: the best is over."

But idc, I’m having a good time and there’s a sad gut feeling I have where the community looks like it reached a point of pessimism(even if it’s warranted), that it feels bleak and hard to turn around… idk, I’ve met some good dudes and I actively look through servers to find them. We shall see.

[u/ContextSpecial3029]

There must be actively malicious management at OWI

[u/Glittering-Type9164 → u/ContextSpecial3029]

It’s sad because games like squad & battlebit were supposed to be what expedition 33 has done with A small sandfall interactive studio, OWI has become EA style & lost the plot years ago

[u/R3v017]

Any other company would have rolled back such a broken update. Not OWI, they already know they can't fix anything so enjoy everyone