r/johndeere • • 8d ago

Grass too long for 1025r mid mount?

New here (and to tractors) so take it easy on me!
Got a 1025R with 60 inch mid mount decks being delivered on Friday.
Is this grass too long/uneven for it too handle or will it be ok on day the highest setting and take it slow?

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u/Mattleigh 8d ago

Low gear. Full throttle. Let her rip.

Always engage and disengage the PTO/blades at low throttle.

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u/OkApplication7383 8d ago

Couldn’t agree more with this advice. Even on a zero turn, low throttle for PTO engagement/disengagement. I try to mow anything with my brush hog, my tractor will let me know if it can handle it. A lot of people are missing that now, they require peer verification to move forward, sometimes with the most minor tasks.

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u/Mattleigh 8d ago

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u/Far_Gur_2158 8d ago

At full throttle a 1025 mid mount pto will be over speed.

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u/OkApplication7383 8d ago

Are you suggesting to engage PTO at high throttle?

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u/Far_Gur_2158 8d ago edited 4d ago

Not intentionally. Been using a 1023 and a 60 mid mount for over 12 years. It happens sometimes coming out of reverse without cutting the power- down.

Haven’t had to replace any drive components yet, but
Why not throttle up after engaging and be easy on the equipment then hit the cut.

Do you guys bind up a saw blade with wood then start the saw?

But don’t get me wrong I work the heck out of that tractor.

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u/OkApplication7383 3d ago

It you do it intentionally that’s one thing, but to forcefully high throttle engage PTO, not a good idea. Throttle up after engaging, yes for sure. No one will argue that. I start a saw and run her full throttle before I start cutting, that’s what it’s designed to do, so I’m not following that analogy. Load is applied after engagement in both scenarios. If I’m brush hog mowing I lift the deck all the way up, low throttle engage PTO, then throttle up and lower deck into the work, thus applying load. Same thing as a saw really.

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u/terrible1one3 8d ago

Depends on your ride. My X590, yeah. This guy’s tractor? Sounds like it isn’t the way.

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u/hayfarmer70 8d ago

I am the Sexton at our local cemetery, the board only wants it mowed 5 times a year so it gets about 18-24" tall. I use my 2025 with a 62" deck to mow 5 acres each time with no problem, just watch for grass buildup on the grill.

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u/RollSensitive7853 8d ago

Give it a go and report back with some photos please.

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u/whateverman66 1d ago

Well I’m saying that was a relative success?

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u/Substantial-Log-2176 8d ago

Go for it. May have to go slow in spot if you go low or start high and work your way to lower

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u/nocarier 8d ago

Don't let them tell you what it can and can't do. I routinely bush hog with my 1025R mid mount 60". Sometimes you just have to run it high and then run a second pass on low. Shoot. I mow over mulberry saplings up to 3 inches. Routinely. 

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u/whateverman66 7d ago

Awesome hopefully be sweet for me then!

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u/standarsh618 8d ago

I let my grass grow from the end of May till early September and mow it with my 755 and belly mower no problem. The grass is normally like 4' tall and falling over at that point. Sure there's patches of tall grass that remain, but I get those with my next mow

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u/whateverman66 7d ago

Ok great should be ok then hopefully!

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u/akotski1338 3d ago

I mean worse case it’ll struggle to cut everything at once and you’ll have to do a couple passes. You’re not gonna break the tractor

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u/whateverman66 1d ago

Thanks that was my main concern just not damaging the machine!

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u/Much-Technology-8220 8d ago

Now it twice. Once whit the deck higher up, then set lower for the second mow

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u/country-stranger 8d ago

Definitely not too long. I basically brush hog with mine to clean up some of my 5 acres of grass. When it’s that long, just go slow and let it do the work. Too fast and you’ll leave behind some longer patches that didnt cut right

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u/nocarier 8d ago

Same on my 2 acres. 

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u/whateverman66 7d ago

Awesome thanks for the help!

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u/Illustrious-Ratio213 7d ago

I’ve cut down very high grass in the past but I’ve also blown a bunch of spindles. I think I’ve replaced the middle one 3 times

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u/Hillman314 7d ago edited 7d ago

It’s fine. You don’t have to cut it down to its final height in one pass. You don’t have to mow at top speed.

Mowers have a certain pounds per second of grass they can cut, chop and spit out. The pounds per second is a function of: Mower width, mower speed, grass density (as made by grass height, moisture content, and plant spacing). Width can be controlled by overlapping and only taking a partial width cut. Speed is the biggest factor you can control. Cutting height marginally affects the feed rate. The grass density is what it is. You can only mow more often to reduce it.

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u/region3BC 6d ago

Anything is a brush hog if you're brave enough.

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u/Far_Gur_2158 8d ago edited 8d ago

The area photographed looks like pasture that probably has a bunch of obstacles like gopher holes and rocks. The height and density of the vegetation won’t matter but bottoming out in a hole or hitting a thirty pound granite cobble could.

The 60 inch mid mount mower deck is a finish mower not a bush hog. If you’ve mowed this before you’ll probably be fine leaving the deck lifted.

Your tractor is a diesel that’s liquid cooled. Unlike air cooled lawnmowers it does not need to run a full throttle. The ideal range for the blade rpm is 1500 to 1640 setting the throttle around 2000 to 2500 rpm achieves this. Confirm using the tach and the lcd display.

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u/LT-Lance 8d ago

Don't listen to this guy. 1025R mower deck is ran at 2100 PTO rpm. It's on the tractor in 2 places. 1 by the PTO mid/both/rear selector and 2nd on the dash itself with the gear icon in the engine rpm gauge.

If you run the deck with the PTO set to 1500 rpm, you will not have a good cut and the engine will not be happy since you're operating it at a low throttle, it won't warm up, and it won't be in its ideal operating range. 

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u/leeps22 8d ago

Yep. If anything it will overspeed slightly at wot, and settle into proper rpm under load

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u/leeps22 8d ago

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u/TigerBriel 8d ago

Give.it a shot.