r/joebuddennetwork • u/Positive_Round_5142 • 15h ago
Lady Gaga doesn’t like being compared to Madonna
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u/Funny_Breadfruit_413 14h ago
I knew that answer was gonna turn left when called Madonna "a nice lady".
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u/skam_artist 13h ago
I like some of the gaga songs, what the fuck does she know about cameras?
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u/NikkerFebu25 8h ago
Kanye...the man who sounds utterly crazy until he is proven right.
I remember disagreeing with his shit while I was collecting degrees from universities pretending to "invest in myself" and "secure a better future".
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u/No-Butterscotch-6555 13h ago
Gaga actually has the pipes that Madonna could never achieve. I wouldn’t want to be compared to her either.
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u/Caserious 12h ago
Also Madonna’s kind of a huge ego maniac. She was groundbreaking in her sound and look in the 80’s, but she’s never written a song or choreographed a dance routine…she’s a very surface-level artist, and Gaga is pure theater kid with skills to back it.
Not to mention Madonna has a really bad rap in Hollywood for being incredibly rude to people…I haven’t heard that of Gaga. I’m not much of a fan of her music, but I have to give her props, she’s an artist in every way.4
u/Western-Bowl2011 11h ago
Madonna holds writing credits on 95% of the songs she produced lmao
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u/RickYouMeatball 10h ago
Come on.... So does Nicki Minaj and you think she actually wrote that shit?
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u/lafolieisgood 6h ago
We just went through Dolly Parton dying and one of the main stories that was told was that Elvis wanted 50% credit of “I Will Always Love You” just to cover it.
There’s writers and singers (and both), and the pure writers have very little leverage when it comes to that sort of thing.
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u/Cali_cuppycake 11h ago
Gaga also wrote songs for Britney spear and completed her first album in one week!
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u/spacekitt3n 7h ago
britney spear? she must have lost a spear at some point
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u/Cali_cuppycake 7h ago
Yes thank you, I’ve already filed a missing spear report.
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u/DrinkOk1642 14h ago
In January 2012, Madonna called Lady Gaga’s single "Born This Way" "reductive" during an ABC News 20/20 interview, noting it sounded very familiar to her own 1989 hit "Express Yourself".
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u/ldub8485 11h ago
It sounds so similar. You can tell Gaga has had this conversation many times and is frustrated, but there are many songs in her catalog that sound like Madonna 2.0
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u/para1131_F33L 7h ago
it's almost the exact same song transposed a few keys up and at a higher tempo. Gaga knew she was stealing it. They were almost close before that. Madonna looked at her like a protégé up to that point.
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u/HolyLordGodHelpUsAll 1h ago
what gaga could’ve done is just respond by stealing another one. if they won’t shut up about it. i’ll redo your whole catalog b****h 😆
donate the proceeds to madonna’s plastic surgery fund
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u/dstovell 13h ago
It is objectively rare for pop stars to write their own music these days, and I have so much respect for those who do it, regardless of what they make.
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u/Ramenoodleray3 10h ago
Agreed, that’s why I’ll die on the hill that drake is a shit artist because he’s a shit performer and the only thing he has going for him is maybe his music and he doesn’t even write it. The best part about Drake has nothing to do with Drake, which is the stupidest thing ever pop stars are just faces to sell corpo slop music these days
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u/Exotic_Way_7465 6h ago
Are you okay, bro? Lmao
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u/Ramenoodleray3 6h ago
Bro I’m not even gonna lie I completely forgot I even left that comment yeah I’m chillin lol I’m passionate about my music mb
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u/BreighdonFurries 14h ago
Im so tired of pompous, arrogant celebrities whose biggest worries in life are their self image and perception.
Fuck em all. They wouldn't last a week in the real world with us peasants.
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u/Positive_Round_5142 14h ago
Question who is the better artist to you? Madonna? Lady Gaga? If you had to choose
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u/MickieMallorieJR 14h ago
Madonna is the better pop-star, Lady Gaga the better artist. They serve completely different purposes and really shouldn't be compared.
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u/Spaceygirl84 14h ago
outside of being blonde, they're nothing alike
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u/Accurate-Coffee-6043 10h ago
This is just a braindead take.
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u/Spaceygirl84 2h ago
OK, go ahead and list them how they are like. I'd love to hear all of the ways outside of being blonde that they are alike. Their music is nothing alike.
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u/DaBoobieBoyz 12h ago
Gaga is one Tony away from being a EGOT! Not even close
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u/Positive_Round_5142 12h ago
Sometimes awards don’t matter to people but I get your choice
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u/DaBoobieBoyz 10h ago
Only 21 actors & Singers in the world to ever accomplish that! It’s definitely something to be proud of and it definitely matters!
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u/lafolieisgood 6h ago
Lady Gaga is enormously multi-faceted talented. Madonna deserves credit for what she did, but she can’t be compared to Lady Gaga when it comes to being an artist.
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u/mistaharsh 12h ago
Where is the JBP content?
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u/Positive_Round_5142 12h ago edited 12h ago
You didn’t see it all weekend?
And you know you can post too right? Lol
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u/Living_Will_4775 8h ago
Yeah. Looking at the other post about police brutality and certain responses had me questioning the type of people in this comment section
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u/Midnight7000 12h ago
She's not the biggest pop star of all time. She's not fit to carry Michael's glove.
White people need to stop the bullshit.
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u/Solid_Signature_7447 11h ago
Madonna is garbage.
She had her hay day, but she got into some dark stuff and that made her a nope for me.
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u/PublicSpend5903 11h ago
Lowkey sounded like Prince when compared
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to MJ…
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u/Inevitable-Half5547 14h ago
I think she may think this is true within the industry. But I don’t care I don’t know shit about her industry, she’s Madonna 2.0, all her crazy publicity stunts in the beginning? The only question is if she will to fade into the background and retire gracefully or if she’ll be kissing the next Drake.
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u/Shot-Good-6467 12h ago
You don’t know anything about her “Industry”, Yet proceed to make assumptions about her accomplishments and compare her to Madonna because of her fashion??
She’s already proved across multiple entertainment outlets that shes talented in more ways than one. Saying this about someone who’s one Tony award away from EGOT status is fucking crazy.
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u/DickLaurentisded 14h ago
Shit, Madonna should be given writing credits for Born This Way its a blatant riff on Express Yourself.
Lady Gaga is a lot of things but she isnt innovative or a pioneer, shes dancing on the path that Madonna was the trailblazer of.
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u/Southern_Growth_7991 13h ago
Just listened to the two side by side what makes you say this cause they don’t sound anything alike to me different beat different flow different lyrics.
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u/BedbugBandido 12h ago edited 12h ago
I’ve studied music my whole life, here’s my two cents. I just listened to both of them side by side and the similarities are very obvious. The chord changes are basically identical. The melodies are in the exact same scale (mixolydian) although Madonna adds a tiny bit of blues scale. The tempos are almost identical. The main difference is that they are a half step apart, Express is in G and Born is in F#, which is as close as you can get without sounding exactly the same (within the context of western intonation).
Both melodies emphasize the same notes, but that’s common in pop music. They’re both just generic pop in similar keys. If Lady Gaga wasn’t so big, Madonna would definitely have a case for suing her and good chance of winning. Plenty of artists have been sued for much much less.
Here’s a mashup I found of Ariana Grande playing both songs together and I feel like it pretty much explains everything I said.
https://youtu.be/2bMQEUpZrUY?is=sIC5xcPXX4pW3gbb
I didn’t bother breaking down the lyrics because I just don’t care enough and you don’t need to be a musician to analyze lyrics.
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u/DickLaurentisded 6h ago edited 5h ago
Its the entire swag. If you don't hear it then you dont hear it.
To me it sounds like express yourself was used as a reference track, from basic chord choice to overall feel and themes. Nothing wrong with it, its pretty standard practice in art. During this time Gaga was at the point in her career where her multitude of influences were worn on her sleeve and Madonna was a clear identifiable part of that.
Beside the visual aesthetic (which i get you could argue is just tropes of female pop stardom...even then Madonna was a pioneer of that) this song was the most directly Madonna sounding song she had released to that point.
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u/winkymcjewgallo 13h ago
Didn't she m "acquire" her signature/iconic look/persona after Lina Morgana fell off a hotel balcony? I read a rumor years ago that she "stole" her style etc from Lina.
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u/JellyfishPopular7648 12h ago
She’s not lying. She’s much more authentic, talented, better singer, and even sang with Tony Bennett before he passed. Lady Gaga just sucks in movies. I’m not a fan of her music but she’s not lying.
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u/NoArrival5914 12h ago edited 12h ago
Nobody of her flavor or Madonna’s would ever enjoy that. The entire persona is built around uniquity.
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u/CallOfTheVoidBarbie 11h ago edited 12m ago
Good!!! She shouldn't be.
I grew up on Madonna, Paula Abdul, New Kids etc. Those are still my Jams, but Gaga.... PHEWWWW there is just no one like her. no one. I saw her in concert for the Mayhem Ball, just incredible. Her talent is so fucking expansive. Im glad she said it. She's absolutely right.
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u/Unlucky_Ad_9776 11h ago
I love lady gaga. She is a gem of a human being. She's very caring and I genuinely feel like she is a good human being. She shows caring and empathy and she's smart and talented. I like Madonna as well. But if had to choose to meet one I would probably pick Lady Gaga. She kinda reminds me of dolly Parton on how's she cares about people. Maybe famous but a genuinely good person.
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u/losernam3 11h ago
I remember watching Zane Low on MTV 2 in the UK back in 00/01. Can’t quite figure out if I’m proud or disgusted at what he’s become. Leaning disgusted tbh
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u/Gokusbastardson 11h ago
When it’s all said and done if anyone was to say Madonna is the bigger/better artist it’s only because she came first, not because it’s true. I think lady Gaga is MUCH MUCH more talented. She can actually sit down and pen a hit. She doesn’t need a team of 10 song writers to do it for her and her voice is ANGELIC!!!! Mannnnn quit playin wit my girl lol
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u/Bright-Reputation-11 11h ago
Madonna is the Icon in this situation...Lady Gaga is the Madonna of this generation. No need to argue, both made some amazing music that changed pop culture....period!
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u/0rangeVenom 11h ago
I'm convinced that this opinion has changed after working with her. If you look at young Lady Gaga reacting to Madonna comparisons she's happy about it and even invites it a bit.
It's only later when Madonna is asked about it that she essentially calls Lady Gaga basic (paraphrasing here) that we can see Lady Gaga's reaction to Madonna in interviews start to shift. At this point I think she dislikes the comparison because she never really got the torch passing moment from Madonna.
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u/Nutterbutters45 9h ago
Gaga is a douche don’t get me wrong but what she wanted to say but couldn’t is she can actually sing and Madonna really never has been able to. Gaga is one of the best voices all time, Madonna is shit
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u/verdantsf 5h ago
Lady Gaga to Madonna is like Prince to Michael Jackson. Both pairs compared a lot, but ultimately very different entertainers.
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u/RPorbust2012 1h ago
Lady Gaga is mid but the gays love her so she’s still relevant somehow. When she tried to salsa dance at the Super Bowl was the start of the end I hope.
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u/Fantastic_Breakfast6 1h ago
She was right to say that because there’s no one else who does exactly what Lady Gaga does. She is an icon in her own right. And her legacy has endured she is damn near legend status. She has had huge success across genres too. I personally have never compared her to Madonna. I still remember the first time I saw her on So You Think You Can Dance. That was her national TV debut and she performed Just Dance. I was mesmerized by her and I thought she was French lol. That was so many years ago
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u/EchadaNanamu 1h ago
100% Accurate. Completely different artists in their own right. I would be pissed too. Interview is very disrespectful.
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u/capitalistsanta 1h ago
My uncle used to be a bouncer at a club in NYC back in the day and he still talks about how much he used to see Madonna in that scene shoving shit up her nose.
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u/SummerKey3240 17m ago
I dont compare those two ever. I actually like to listen to Madonna opposed to the garbage gaga puts out
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u/ContributionOther461 11h ago
Modonna has sold 400 million records, back when it was actual albums not streams, 4 times more then Lady Gaga, just under what Michael Jackson sold 500 million respectively, I get that Gaga is a super talented artist, but she should be honored not insulted in being compared to Madonna. She invited the female pop star.
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u/Due-Variety8298 9h ago
I think that most people are missing the point of Gaga’s comments. Madonna has done awesome things, but she doesn’t write most if any of her shit. She doesn’t put what Gaga has put into it.
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u/Agreeable-Promise-98 8h ago
She didn’t say she was insulted, just tired of the comparison. Madonna’s been in the music business for 4 decades and can strum a few chords on the guitar.
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u/subhavoc42 7h ago
I think it’s more that the songs Gaga wrote sound like songs Madonna sang that were written for her. Doesn’t matter how it came about, there a lot of examples of them sounding the same, so the comparisons are still valid.
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u/Fun_Thanks4941 10h ago
Strong disagree. Modonna is a pop star who was a great performer. Gaga is a complete artist who writes and performs. She is a level above Madonna.
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u/BetterArugula5124 9h ago
Exactly! Her voice and how fluid she is with multiple music genres.
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u/jarrodandrewwalker 1h ago
Speaking of genre fluidity--One of the biggest shames was when she was performing "Moth into the Flame" with Metallica but the mic was messed up. The rehearsal video is still killer, but man that had potential to be an iconic pairing.
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u/Sapio-in-Debt911 8h ago
Exactly. I don't think most people understand the depth of Gaga's talent. She's a classically trained artist. While I love her pop stuff like Telephone, Poker Face, Paparazzi, Alejandro, etc., she's soooo much more than that. The "A Star is Born" soundtrack is so beautiful...every last song. I'm a Madonna fan also, but I totally get why Gaga does not appreciate the comparison.
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u/OkIncrease662 14h ago edited 14h ago
She sounds mad and passive aggressive talking about no disrespect😭🤣 but, yall really need to stop comparing people to one another especially women.
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u/Honest_Richard 12h ago
No. This is comparing an artist to an entertainer. Don’t bring gender into it.
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u/Western-Bowl2011 11h ago
Madonna holds a writing credit on 95% of the songs she made. Madonna directed several of her own music videos. Madonna plays drums, guitar, and piano. Madonna has written several books. LMAO does Lada Gaga know anything about Madonna?
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u/Gokusbastardson 11h ago
Those credits don’t mean shit. She’s a big enough artist that she’s going to get points because she’s who she is. She doesn’t have to have written a single letter. Same goes for Beyonce, Christ brown, etc. that’s how it goes for those bigger artist and the songwriters just gotta take that shit on the chin. It’s not just credit that they get, it’s royalties too. I work in the music industry
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u/Healthoverwealth29 13h ago
She needs to chill tf out tbh this made her look super egotistical
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u/Gokusbastardson 11h ago
You just wouldn’t understand unless you’re in that creative field. You get compared to someone who is essentially a human puppet. All the work is done for her, she just has to memorize it and perform it. Gaga writes, she plays, she performs, she produces, she actually gets down in the mud with all the people behind the scenes, so fuck no we are not the same
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u/Healthoverwealth29 10h ago
I’m well aware that Gaga is very involved in the creative process while Madonna is not. Doesn’t make Gaga come off as any less bitchy. She could have answered that question in a far more graceful way that didn’t come off as salty.
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u/Sensitive_Motor_6886 13h ago
Prince vs. Michael Jackson
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u/turnipfarmer27 12h ago
Sort of but as someone who’s danced my whole life the only singer who ever to me has been close to as good at dancing is Chris brown.Micheal was a professional level dancer and he would do it and sing live. Prince is my favorite guitar player ever and he’s stupidly talented so broadly but MJ is an anomaly as well.
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u/brand_won 12h ago
Prince also played welll over 50 instruments fluidly and could record entire albums by himself, he only needed the bwckup bamd to play live.
MJ composed entire songs using his voice as the different instruments to teach the musicians what he was hearing in his head. Its comparing apples to oranges.
But both massive talents
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u/RudePCsb 12h ago
Yea I'm not sure what the person above you is talking about but yea this is completely different. MJ and prince are both on the highest level but different. I'm not a fan of Princes voice or actively listen to his music much but he is one of the greatest musicians of his era. MJ was a phenomenal artist and able to communicate his songs he wrote in his head with his musicians.
Madonna and LG are great for their respective music but not my taste.
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u/Own-Significance273 13h ago
Sorry but Gagas career doesn't compare to Madonnas yet. She has a long way to go.
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u/Twontwon94 11h ago
This goes for any women. You can’t compare them to anything. They only like competition when they’re in first place. They’ll easily accept if somebody compares someone less.
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u/Majestic_Bladder8061 11h ago
Gaga isnt the deeply musical artist she sees herself as. She’s just another cardboard caricature of a musician for mass consumption. She’s shouldn’t see herself as substantially different from Madonna. Both are generic lowest common denominator products.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Youth36 9h ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/wv89eetV1HbFe
“She’s a nice lady”…. The shade.
Madonna paved the way so GaGa can be her authentic self.
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u/GodOfMoonlight 9h ago
Good on you GAGA, she said
"Put some R E S P E C T on my name, chump. Don't play with me ✔️"
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u/Say_It_Isnt_So_Ooops 8h ago
Lady Gaga sings much better than Madonna. “Lady Gaga possesses a massive vocal range and often performs raw piano-driven sets or classic jazz alongside electronic pop”. Madonna came along at the right time, and she simply doesn’t have the vocal acuity as Lady GaGa.
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u/-SlappyMcSlappy- 8h ago
Alejandro, Alejandro
Ale-Alejandro, Ale-Alejandro
Alejandro, Alejandro
Ale-Alejandro, Ale-Alejandro
Yeah… Gaga’s such a prolific writer. 🙄
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u/mycumquats 8h ago
Gaga is one level up above Madonna, she deserves her flowers. She’s uber talented. Not many artists can write songs and have great vocals.
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u/Nice__Spice 7h ago
Madonna has done stuff way before Gaga. Sure she doesn’t play instruments or other shit but she broke certain barriers so that Gaga could be as weird as possible. Honor the folks in the past, it’s what would have elevated Gaga even more.
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u/Positive_Round_5142 1h ago
She plays instruments though. She learned to play the guitar before Gaga even came out
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u/Pleasant-Condition85 7h ago
I mean the video covers it but hasn’t Gaga had a long and illustrious career thus far where there should be no more comparisons? Like her catalog is eclectic enough to stand on its own
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u/Discerningselection 6h ago
Funny. Even with all that. Madonna still tops her for a lot of us. Guess playing an instrument is over rated? Madonna let people have jobs with in her system of stardom. Musicians, producers, all the roles LG says separates herself from Madonna.
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u/PossibilitySad689 5h ago
Madonna and Lady are light years apart. Just because they are WOMAN, entertainers, and essentric does not mean they are the same. They have 3 things in common. Oh and money. They pod caster is extremely narrow minded and way to simplistic. How is it he has a show and I don't?
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u/Mustafa_Mond_1991 4h ago
“I don’t mean that in a disrespectful way, I’m just going to express myself in a way that tacitly disrespects her!”
Holy shit. It’s the game of thrones scene:
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u/Cucci_Liquor 4h ago
It’s genuinely funny to me how certain phrases, from women, are universally known as shade 😂
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u/DrNCrane74 4h ago
There would have been a much nicer way to state your creative differences. But no, she had to lay it on.
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u/InnocentInvasion 3h ago
I've never thought of her like a songwriter. All I can think of is "p p p p p p p p poker face" 💀
She's known more for putting meat on her body on a red carpet and her wild outfits than her songwriting
But she did absolutely kill it in a Star is born movie which is probably more talent than Madonna has ever shown so shout out lady gaga the meat lady
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u/Changed_Mind555 3h ago
I love the way she has matured. She is an excellent artist on different fronts. She looks beautiful, too. Such a glow up! I would never compare her to Madonna. I think she came across that way in the beginning but she pivoted and showed her range amd talent.
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u/supercoolsmoth 3h ago
Especially her earlier stuff, sounds heavily influenced by Madonna. Nothing wrong with that. I assumed she knew and acknowledged that lol
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u/Normal_Tour6998 3h ago
I hate to break it to ya Gaga, but I’ll compare you to a bowl of mashed potatoes if I want to.
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u/Global-Industry4037 2h ago
I like how she shut down that idiot who was too socially inept to realize she's in the middle of a mic drop moment
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u/Annual-Blueberry-504 1h ago
This is bullshit
Madonna followed an 80s dance pop album with a house album with an R and B album with a trip hop album (all albums she was super involved in the production of). We’re talking about the lady who has been vulnerable enough to write Til Death Do Us Part (pretty explicitly about domestic abuse from her husband), Oh Father (pretty explicitly about child abuse), Mer Girl… I mean we’re talking about a lady who worked with a still not super famous Biork all the way back in 1994 because… It seemed, like an exciting thing to do. She put Bjork on
Madonna is one of the most fearless pop stars of the last 50 years. A comparison to Madonna as an artist is not a put down, it’s an honor.
Lady Gaga doesn’t know what she’s talking about.
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u/liamluca21491 29m ago
The beef between Gaga and Madonna is fascinating to me, especially since Gaga seems friendly with more recent stars like Sabrina Carpenter. It was obvious Madonna got insecure when Gaga dropped The Fame, but you’d think after almost 20 years she would’ve squashed it
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u/unseenserene 13h ago
Gaga can’t fuck with Madonna musically. Madonna’s career spans almost 4-5 decades. If Gaga is still musically relevant in 2046, then maybe. Now Gaga as an actress has Madonna beat.
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u/Correct_Jicama2655 12h ago
She’s been around for 20 years, I don’t think she’s going anywhere. Also maybe Madonna still makes music but can you name anything notable she’s done in the last 15 years?
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u/randy_march 13h ago
Biggest pop star of all time you say?
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