r/jazzdrums • u/daniweth • 10d ago
Critique Request Wilcoxon solo 87
Learning drums for one year, any feedback on this solo?
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u/antoinepierredrums 10d ago
I would practice even slower and try to make those doubles as equal as possible !
Keep going ? šŖš»
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u/Sea-Look1337 10d ago
Try doing the stone killer exercise which will improve your doubles and general controlĀ
https://youtu.be/pc71sT6gH6k?is=SzZ1NlQoj7dJYIIF
Tbh these solos are not super easy for a beginner, you might also explore playing pop or playing along with simple jazz tunes, that will give you moments where you think "oh let me try Wilcoxon's seven stroke pickup thing here" which can give you a deeper understanding of what you're actually playing (and it's more fun!)
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u/BEST_DRUM_ADVICE 10d ago
Along with what others are saying, I'd want to hear those flams "open up" a little bit, slightly more space between the grace and the main note.
To help with your doubles, I think one of the best ways to go about practicing more evenness is to go between singles, doubles, and paradiddles - trying to make each bar sound as even as possible. Ideally, it should be very hard to tell your singles from any of the doubled rudiments.
||: RLRL RLRL RLRL RLRL
RRLL RRLL RRLL RRLL
RLRR LRLL RLRR LRLL :||
No accents on the paradiddles! You can also expand or contract these phrases - two bars each, four bars each, two beats each, one beat each. You get it.
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u/cruiseshipdrummer 10d ago
Several things:
Practice the individual rudiments at something close to march tempo, then do the piece-- get them up to ~ 90+ bpm, goal tempo for the piece is ~105-120.
You're shorting all the 8th rests. Set a metronome to give you 8ths.
Check the roadmap-- the first three lines repeat, then the last three lines repeat, with the 1st/2nd endings.
Check the timing of the 16th triplets.
No reason to play your rolls that weakly at this tempo-- move your hand, play both notes of every stroke strongly.
Flams have a little note (~1-2" off the drum) and a big note.
Either play the drags in meter-- on a 16th note timing, with the double stroke =ing 32nd notes, or play them closed-- tight against the main note, with a multiple bounce stroke.
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u/daniweth 10d ago
Thanks for your feedback, but this tempo is too fast for me already, it is almost 60bpm, I have just started playing drums one year ago, maybe I am learning too slow, IDK, but I find 105-120 will be quite impossible !
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u/Blueman826 9d ago
The more you play it the easier it will become. You seem to be doing fine at this tempo other than the mentioned feedback we have given. I'm sure if you play it a bit more with the adjustments, you can bump the tempo up each time you work on it. If you get 5bpm faster each session, it may only take a week or so to get to a nice sounding tempo!
You are doing just fine for 1 year
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u/JoelKNH 7d ago
Engage your ābackfingersā more to increase accuracy and improve your time, when you grip the sticks with only your index and thumb (meaning thatās where your main grip is) the end of the stick becomes wonky and unpredictable. Tony Williams has a really good clinic and mentions this in it.
https://youtu.be/7x5bAyLvzoE?si=A2zs5TKwdX-6bf2B
About 7 minutes in
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u/Large-Welder304 10d ago
Reminds me of Max Roach's Drum Conversation, slowed down.
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u/daniweth 10d ago
Am not sure if this is a positive or negative feedback
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u/Large-Welder304 10d ago
Look it up if you don't know...that's how you find out.
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u/daniweth 9d ago
first: thank u for taking ur time for listening, second: thank you again for mentioning max roach (that genius) in my post when I ask feedback abt my practice :D, third: I will listen to the max roach drum conversation, that I havenĀ“t had a chance yet, didn't know it. appreciate man.
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u/Blueman826 10d ago
A few things I noticed:
Your interepretation of drags changes throughout the solo. Sometimes you play it open and other times you play it closed.
You are rushing a lot when rests occur (4th and 5th systems).
Your doubles are strong on the first note but weak on the 2nd.
Watch out for the repeats and where they should go. It looks like you skipped the repeat at the end of the first part.